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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side - An Attack of the Clones Fanedit by DsqrD Studio

NOTE: This fanedit was not created by me, and I am not affiliated with the editor in any way. However, after discovering this edit while browsing through, I was amazed. In my opinion, this may be the best edit of Episode II that has ever been made. Therefore, I wanted to spread the word by sharing it on this site. If you want a link to download the edit, please PM me.

Running time is about 126 minutes.

Synopsis: As thousands of solar systems threaten to secede from the Galactic Republic, the Dark Side of the Force shrouds the Jedi’s vision. Caught up in a plot to assassinate Senator Padmé Amidala, Anakin Skywalker must navigate the balance between his oath to the Jedi Order and his growing feelings for Padmé. But as Padmé’s own feelings grow amidst a looming galactic conflict, can Anakin and the Jedi turn the tide toward peace, or will war consume them all?

Find out in SHROUD OF THE DARK SIDE, a fanedit that uses deleted scenes (AI-upscaled to 4K with HDR) and some redone visual effects to restructure the love story in “Attack of the Clones” to proceed more naturally and realistically while also streamlining and making sense of the politics behind the Grand Army of the Republic and the Jedi Council.

Intention: I saw “Attack of the Clones” seven times during its theatrical run, and sat through countless additional screenings after it released on home video. Each viewing left me delighted in parts (I love the end battle and the speeder chase, “Blade Runner” comparisons be damned!) but extremely frustrated at others. Too many things just did not make sense.

Why didn’t the Jedi order an investigation into a high-profile senator’s assassination attempt until the third attempt on her life?

Are the Jedi for or against the creation of the army?

If the Military Creation Act vote is imminent, what is the government’s plan to raise the army? Why does the senate simply approve a mysterious army that happens to be discovered at the exact moment one is needed? Who authorized and paid for the army? Where did all the capital ships, support craft, tanks, and weapons come from? Who authorized those war materials? When?

Why would Mace Windu kill Jango Fett after he and Yoda decided to bring the bounty hunter in for questioning?

How could Yoda and Mace Windu sense Anakin’s terrible pain of losing his mother, but send him off with Padmé back to Naboo without Mace Windu even knowing where Anakin is—especially after Anakin nearly abandoned the mission to chase Count Dooku in order to attempt to help Padmé after she fell off the ship?

Why is Anakin already portrayed with anger and antagonism?

The list went on.

I created my fanedit to answer as many of my questions as possible in order to help the film make sense, present the Jedi as competent protectors the audience should care for, and portray the characters with some realistic human motivations and emotions.

Special Thanks:
ArtisDead for the beautiful poster/cover art and for answering all of my many questions.

Special Features:
Faneditor’s audio commentary explaining my thought process and outlining individual cuts, additions, and restructures is available on the second audio track.

Editing Details:
My goal was to make sure that as much of George Lucas’ original story and intentions as possible survived my editing processes so that this edit would be a more enjoyable retelling rather than an utterly slashed up rebuke of the original source material. Nevertheless, I’ve made several significant changes, the removal of Padmé’s back-and-forth resistance to her growing love for Anakin chief among them. You will not find the fireplace scene in this edit! The spirit of their secret love remains, though, as you will discover when you watch their first conversation together in Episode III. It’s all about finding balance, which is my ultimate guideline.

There are many Star Wars materials out there, from novels and comic books to a number of official TV series and fanedits. I’ve enjoyed and learned from a number of fanedits over the years, but wanted to make my own to balance out the ones that go too far and others that do not go far enough. While working on my edit, I was conscious of the official story materials and did my best not to alter anything that contributes to the overarching story of Star Wars. Admittedly, I weighed the original six episodes and Clone Wars series created by George Lucas heavier than the materials released by Disney, but I don’t believe I’ve made any changes that contradict the entirety of the cannon. As a specific example of keeping the cannon in mind, I reinserted the fight between Obi-Wan and Jango Fett on the Kamino platform because Mandalorians have a long history with the Jedi and do not back away from fighting them. This canonical reasoning helps justify George Lucas’ choice to include this scene to show off Jango’s costume. (I acknowledge that the movie’s pacing works better without this fight scene, but for the sake of canonical accuracy and my own prerogative of enjoying the costume and music, I put it back.)

Cuts and Additions:

  1. Intentionally kept the line, “Senator, we’re making our final approach into Coruscant” to fool a first-time audience member to believe Padmé is on the ship.
  2. Cut Typho’s “we made it line.”
  3. Cut Cordé’s lines about failing the senator.
  4. Cut Padmé’s “I shouldn’t have come back” line and Typho’s subsequent lines pleading for her to follow him. Created a special effect of Typho moving behind Padmé to make the cuts look natural.
  5. Added a backlight to R2-D2.
  6. Cut Yoda’s line about warm feelings in his heart.
  7. Intentionally retained the lines about Ansion as a bit of expository world building.
  8. Recolored the edges of Obi-Wan and Anakin in multiple shots in the elevator to remove green screen spill.
  9. Removed discussion of Anakin not having seen Padmé for ten years. This information is implied by the next scenes, but the explicit mention of ten years felt both unnecessary and odd given that they both live and work on the same planet (Coruscant).
  10. Removed Anakin’s “for a senator, I mean” line and created a special effect to replace Obi-Wan’s original annoyed look with a happy one. Also replaced Padmé’s original uncomfortable reaction with a warm smile.
  11. Cut the argument between Anakin and Obi-Wan about not having orders to conduct an investigation. In this version, investigation is part of the Jedis’ mandate. However, half of Obi-Wan’s line about not exceeding their mandate is retained in order to characterize him as the more careful of the two.
  12. Padmé’s previously uncomfortable looks are replaced by a brief, knowing look from Captain Typho, informing his later line about Padmé’s rashness.
  13. Removed exchange between Anakin and Jar-Jar Binks about Padmé’s feelings.
  14. Removed Anakin’s line, “I don’t think she liked me watching her.”
  15. Added a speeder in the background that originally only appeared halfway through its flight path, thereby seemingly coming out of nowhere.
  16. Removed the bickering about Obi-Wan’s and Anakin’s center tuning.
  17. Intentionally retained Cordé’s “you all right, my lady?” line because I did not want to lose the musical transition into the speeder chase.
  18. Cut Obi-Wan’s shoulder banging into the wall.
  19. Trimmed the speeder chase to reduce bickering, remove “funny” moments from aliens, and generally streamline the pace of the action. Removed some shots of Obi-Wan and Anakin falling to (slightly) increase the credibility of these scenes. Removed any mention of Yoda’s saber skills, preserving the surprise for the end of the film.
  20. Intentionally preserved Zam’s face change and later lines about her physiology as a changeling to preserve continuity, aas she turns into her natural form when she dies.
  21. Trimmed Anakin landing on Zam’s speeder to make this move more intentional and successful.
  22. Removed Zam firing her blaster at Anakin on the roof of her speeder. Anakin now short circuits Zam’s speeder with his light saber. Added a new special effect shot and sound effects to this scene.
  23. Removed shots of Anakin losing his lightsaber and its subsequent flight through the air until Obi-Wan catches it.
  24. Painted out all shots of Obi-Wan running with Anakin’s lightsaber. Now Obi-Wan simply appears to run.
  25. Removed the exchange outside of the club about the lightsaber’s importance. Used special effects to reposition Obi-Wan’s and Anakin’s arms to paint out the original lightsaber handoff.
  26. Intentionally retained the POV shot inside the club, since this is not the first nor only POV shot in STAR WARS. (See C-3P0’s POV shot in “The Phantom Menace”)
  27. Removed Anakin’s uncontrolled anger at Zam. This resulted in the need to remove some of Zam’s resistance to giving Anakin and Obi-Wan the information they wanted.
  28. Intentionally did not add “Kamino System” subtitle to Zam’s death as has been done in various other edits. Though I did do this in an earlier version, this version beefs up and extends the mystery.
  29. Removed the words “home planet of” from Mace Windu. We already know that Naboo is Padmé’s home planet.
  30. Removed the Jedi council urging Anakin to ask Palpatine to persuade Padmé to leave Coruscant. Now this idea is on Anakin’s own initiative.
  31. Removed the scene between Mace Windu, Obi-Wan, and Yoda in the halls of the Jedi temple.
  32. Trimmed the conversation between Padmé and Jar-Jar.
  33. Trimmed the dialogue as Anakin follows Padmé to her room to remove the mention that the Jedi council only ordered the investigation after the second assassination attempt.
  34. Removed Anakin’s complaints about Obi-Wan.
  35. Removed the white haloing around Padmé’s face when she walks away after her “uncomfortable” line by creating a special effect.
  36. Added a backlight to R2-D2 as he follows Anakin and Padmé to the refugee ship at the Coruscant space port.
  37. Replaced the original circular wipe transition to Dex’s diner to transition to a deleted scene of Obi-Wan and the Jedi Temple’s analysis droids. The scene has been upscaled and recolored to match the rest of the footage.
  38. Created a special effect morph of Obi-Wan’s face when he lifts the dart following the analysis to fill in missing frames from the original DVD footage.
  39. Created a special effect of Obi-Wan’s face as he waves the dart around and says, “I know who can identify this” in order to compensate for the original footage fading to black before the circular transition could complete to the next scene.
  40. Originally deleted, but now restored Dex’s diner for two reasons: (1) Dex gives Obi-Wan information about the dart and the Kaminoans that Obi-Wan references in later scenes. Cutting this scene disrupts the informational flow of the rest of the film; and (2) after contemplating this scene for 20 years, it feels too quirky and George Lucasy to remove.
  41. Removed the scenes of Yoda training the younglings.
  42. Created a new scene of Jedi telepathy akin to the ones from “The Empire Strikes Back” between Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Mace Windu. Using some of the lines from the cut younglings scene and footage from the later cuts of Yoda and Mace Windu discussing Anakin’s “terrible pain,” this new scene communicates the vital information that “only a Jedi could have erased” the files about Kamino without making Obi-Wan look like a moron who cannot figure out that if gravity is pulling toward one specific spot, there might be something there even if it’s not in the archives.
  43. Added a backlight to R2-D2 in two shots on the refugee ship.
  44. Upscaled, converted to HDR (for the 4K version), and reinserted a deleted scene of Obi-Wan and Mace Windu walking to Obi-Wan’s Jedi fighter. Here, Obi-Wan references the preceding telepathy scene by asking Mace if he believes that a Jedi really could have erased the files about Kamino. Some of the cut lines from the halls of the Jedi temple are exchanged here, showing Obi-Wan’s concern about Anakin.
    a. Corrected a piece of Obi-Wan’s head that jumped upward for four frames so that it remains in place.
  45. Upscaled, converted to HDR (for the 4K version). and reinserted footage from a deleted scene to extend the conversation between Anakin and Padmé as they land at Theed and walk on the terrace. Now, Anakin is depicted as getting to know Padmé without complaining or turning the conversation all about him. Padmé reveals vital information about how she thought she would be married by now, helping to explain why she would choose to get married so quickly by the end of the film.
  46. Trimmed the scenes inside the queen’s throne room to retain the vital information about not having a “full scale war since the formation of the republic” without depicting Anakin as whiny and hot-headed.
  47. Trimmed the conversation between Obi-Wan and the Kaminoan prime minister to cut out the specific number of ready clones.
  48. Upscaled, converted to HDR (for the 4K version), and reinserted a deleted scene of Padmé’s and Anakin’s visit to her family home. These scenes depict Anakin in a happy, patient manor, further helping to explain why Padmé would fall in love with him. We also see her family gently nudge her in love’s direction, and we now know who those people are when they (SPOILER ALERT!)…… attend her funeral in the next film.
  49. Restructured the story to remove Padmé’s and Anakin’s arrival at the lake. After her family home, we cut back to Obi-Wan’s inspection of the army, followed by the love birds’ picnic in the grass.
  50. Following Obi-Wan’s conversation with Jango Fett, we cut to the sunset dinner, but note that in this version of the movie Padmé and Anakin have not kissed yet. Nor has there been more back and forth about their relationship. This scene has been trimmed to remove some of the CGI when Anakin cuts Padmé’s fruit. A special effect to fill in her lips helps her eating the CGI fruit look a little more real.
  51. The scenes by the fireplace are removed in their entirety. There is no mention of Padmé and Anakin keeping their relationship a secret. This information is revealed in the next film when Anakin exclaims, “I’m tired of this deception. I don’t care if they know we’re married.”
    a. Instead, we transition from the sunset dinner to a sunset walk. The scenes by the lake have been recolored to match the sunset.
  52. Intentionally retained Anakin’s line about sand to deliver a bigger emotional punch later in the film when Anakin grabs a fistful of sand at his mother’s funeral.
  53. Now, they kiss by the lake at sunset and Padmé does not pull away. We’re left to believe that they will make love when the sun sets.
    a. Recomposited Anakin’s eyes so that they don’t slightly open as he’s kissing Padmé.
  54. Cut Anakin’s dream of his mother while writhing around in bed. We now transition from Yoda and Mace discussing growing adversaries to Anakin and Padme standing on their terrace in the morning light. Clad in her nightgown, Padmé tells Anakin that she heard his nightmare the night before, further suggesting that they made love.
  55. Originally trimmed the duel between Obi-Wan and Jango Fett, but reinserted it based on years of lore of the Mandalorians’ wars with the Jedi.
  56. Removed the “okie dokie” line from the chauffeur droid.
  57. Created a special effect to make Wato’s mouth sync enough to say, “Jedi” when he first sees Anakin so that the silly comedy of the scene could be appropriately trimmed.
  58. Trimmed the battle in the asteroid field to streamline the action and have the seismic charges propel Obi-Wan into the cave, without him following Jango’s path. Now, Slave I (or the Firespray, if you prefer) surprises Obi-Wan as he leaves the cave.
  59. Removed Boba Fett’s maniacal laughter.
  60. Cut a few frames so that R4 fires the spare part canisters as soon as Obi-Wan instructs. This is the very first edit I made to this film.
  61. Trimmed Obi-Wan’s approach to Geonosis and the Trade Federation ships.
  62. Removed Owen Lars’ “I guess I’m your stepbrother” line as well as the introductions between the four characters. Unfortunately, this had the effect of removing Beru’s one line in this film.
  63. Removed some of Cleeg Lars’ lines to streamline the conversation. The audience understands that he’s injured and cannot ride. No need to repeat it in dialogue.
  64. Recolored Obi-Wan in the caves on Geonosis to remove some of the blue screen spill on his hair, face, and clothes.
  65. Trimmed Wat Tembor’s radio malfunction with a morph cut. He now has a slight spasm in his hand that fits with the malfunctioning modulation of his voice.
    a. Attempted to cut the CGI creatures in the Separatist Council scene, but this disrupted the musical flow too strongly. The resulting cut would have been too jarring and obvious.
  66. Replaced the Anakin killing the Tusken Raiders transition. This scene now transitions from Anakin to Obi-Wan, blindly unaware of the terrible pain his apprentice and best friend is going through. Retained the audio of Qui-Gon Jinn in this transition but removed the sounds of Anakin and the Tuskens.
  67. Recolored Obi-Wan outside of his fighter to remove blue screen spill.
  68. Added a backlight to R2 as he receives Obi-Wan’s message on the ship.
  69. Removed Cleeg Lars’ eulogy of Shmi Skywalker. This scene is not about Cleeg or Shmi. It’s about Anakin’s dealing with his mother’s death.
  70. Added backlight to R2-D2 as he reaches the funeral.
  71. Added backlight to R2-D2 as the Noobian ship prepares for takeoff.
  72. Changed the subtitles in Palpatine’s office to suggest that at least some senators knew that Syfo-Dias ordered the clone army, and that now it’s time for the entire senate to know. This also helps to confirm that Syfo-Dias did indeed order the army before Darth Tyranus took over the project following the Jedi’s death.
  73. Removed the “if only Senator Amidala were here” line to give Jar-Jar agency in making the decision to betray the entire galaxy.
  74. Rearranged shots once the Noobian ship lands on Geonosis to keep C-3P0 and R2 on the ship for the rest of the movie. Created a special effect shot of Padmé walking past R2 to sell the cut footage.
  75. Created a special effect shot to keep the factory door closed (so as not to reveal R2 and 3-P0 as per the original shot) when Anakin Force-flings the Geonosians.
  76. Significantly trimmed and rearranged the sequence inside the droid factory. Padmé is now saved by Anakin using the Force. Anakin still loses his lightsaber but doesn’t say anything about Obi-Wan killing him.
  77. Removed all dialogue about dying inside while in the cave inside the Geonosian arena.
  78. Trimmed the arena scenes to streamline the action, increase its pacing, and get rid of some of the CGI shots. Anakin is now able to ride his creature right away and Padmé doesn’t swing around to kick her rat.
  79. Intentionally retained Mace Windu’s introduction because it is bad ass.
  80. Rearranged the order of the Jedi reveal. When Mace says, “this party’s over,” we cut back to a reaction shot of Dooku. A special effect shot paints out the ignited lightsabers behind him. The Jedi reveal now comes after Dooku replies, “You’re impossible outnumbered” and Mace counters with, “I don’t think so.”
  81. Removed all shots of R2 and 3-P0 during the battle.
  82. Removed some of the matte lines around the female and male Jedi duo up on the rampart.
  83. Recolored Ki-Adi-Mundi’s lightsaber from green to blue as the Republic Gunship lands behind Anakin and him, correcting a studio gaffe that accidentally painted his lightsaber the wrong color (green) in that shot.
  84. Cut Anakin’s command to, “Aim right above the fuel cells” and Obi-Wan’s subsequent praise
  85. After Yoda’s initial Force lightning battle with Dooku, removed his line, “The Dark Side I sense in you.”
  86. Removed Mace’s “Where is your apprentice” question in the Jedi Council chambers.
  87. Added a Fanedited By DsqrD credit to the credits, after Edited By Ben Burtt.
  88. Added Darth Vader’s breathing to the very end of the end credits.
The Fanedit Network - an incredible resource for fanedit downloads

I just found a resource that should be incredibly helpful to those of you looking for download links to fanedits: The Fanedit Network.

It’s a site established by Reddit’s u/JRS0512, with help from u/Alecthom1, that collects download links to a ton of fanedits. Seriously, almost every edit that’s worth checking out is available there. I’ve already found a ton of edits that have been eluding me there, and others should hopefully find it equally useful.

Sorry if this violates the site rule about download links, but I don’t think it does.

The Fanedit Network - an incredible resource for fanedit downloads

I just found a resource that should be incredibly helpful to those of you looking for download links to fanedits: The Fanedit Network.

It’s a site established by Reddit’s u/JRS0512, with help from u/Alecthom1, that collects download links to a ton of fanedits. Seriously, almost every edit that’s worth checking out is available there (including a lot of Star Wars edits, which is why I felt the need to post it here). I’ve already found a ton of edits that have been eluding me there, and others should hopefully find it equally useful.

Sorry if this violates the site rule about download links, but I don’t think it does.

Great movies you hate.

Midsommar. The pacing is mind-numbingly slow, the characters are about as deep as cardboard cutouts, and I only remember a couple even mildly scary scenes in this so-called “horror” movie. It feels like the director was trying to chase the success of movies like Get Out and The VVitch, without understanding why people liked those movies in the first place.

General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread

darklordoftech said:

Something that baffles me are the people who think Hayden in AOTC and ROTS is the worst thing ever but are also glad that Shaw was replaced with Hayden in ROTJ and want the Shaw ghost ending erased from existence.

Is that really a thing? From my experience, the people who prefer Hayden in ROTJ are the same people who think Hayden’s performance in the prequels was severely underrated, and that he was just held back by a bad script. Not everyone who prefers Shaw hates Hayden, but I seriously doubt that any Hayden haters prefer Hayden’s ghost.

Community Focus Thread 1: The Phantom Menace

I just had a bit of a eureka moment regarding how to structure the opening scene. According to my current plan, you only need to make one major change in order for the opening to work: make it seem like the Trade Feds know what’s going on from the very beginning. They’re immediately aware that the ambassadors are Jedi, and before Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon have even entered the conference room they’ve already made plans for what to do next.

Here’s the way I want to structure the opening:

  • Cut straight from the opening shot to the captain saying “With all due respect…” removing redundant dialogue.
  • After the Jedi ship lands in the hangar, cut to the first appearance of Sidious. This makes the Trade Feds seem more proactive, establishes that there’s a mysterious force at play here from the very beginning, and increases the tension in the conference scenes (since we know that the Trade Feds are planning to kill the Jedi). Also, cut the bit about making the invasion legal, as part of a general change to make the Trade Feds seem more like bullies: they know what they’re doing is illegal, but they think the Republic is too weak to stop them.
  • Then, cut to the conference door opening, with TC-14 saying “We are greatly honored by your visit.” Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon’s conversation plays out in full, with Qui-Gon’s lines now having an added element of dramatic irony.
  • Afterwards, cut to the first appearance of the Queen, as she has a tense conversation with the Trade Feds. Gunray’s denial that there are any ambassadors onboard now has a greater ominousness to it, since they still think their murder of the Jedi will succeed. Cut Gunray’s line “We would never do anything without the approval of the Senate”, as part of giving the Trade Feds a “screw you, you can’t stop us” attitude.
  • Continue the scene the way it did originally, with Gunray cutting off all communications, resulting in Palpatine’s hologram shorting out. However, end the scene after the governor says “Invasion.” This both ends the scene in a much stronger way, and removes more talk about how the Trade Feds always adhere to galactic law.
  • Next, cut to the Jedi ship being blown up, and toxic gas flooding the conference room. The action scene on board the command ship plays out mostly in full, but with the standard cuts (no “Destroy what’s left of them”, less Trade Fed cowardice).
  • When Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon see the invasion army, cut Qui-Gon saying “This is an odd play for the Trade Federation.” Again, the Trade Feds aren’t concerned about legality. After Obi-Wan’s one-liner about how “The negotiations were short”, cut to the start of the invasion, and proceed from there.

So, does that work? It’s not a radical change like I had previously envisioned, but I think it really helps in terms of making the opening more engaging.

Worst Edit Ideas

Have Obi-Wan kill Vader at the end of their duel in Kenobi. Then have the rest of the episode play out in full, but include a text card just before the credits roll saying this:

Through intense spiritual training with the ghost of Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan was able to master the Force. He traveled to the Imperial capital on Coruscant and slaughtered his way into the Senate chamber, killing the Emperor in front of the entire Senate. After seeing this, the Senate immediately declared Obi-Wan the new emperor, and he proceeded to bring peace and justice to the galaxy through his benevolent rule.

Kenobi is now the final installment of the Star Wars saga.

Community Focus Thread 1: The Phantom Menace

EddieDean said:

Here’s a little idea, I don’t know how valuable it would be, but it might be worth thinking about:

You could potentially move Padmé’s early conversation by video with the Neimoidians on their bridge to when she’s on Tattooine.

During the “The death toll is catastrophic”/“It’s a trap, send no reply” segment, you could follow that up a short time later with Padmé’s “The Trade Federation have gone too far this time” - and then follow that with the launch of the probe droids and eventual attack by Maul.

Does that make for an interesting throughline?

Sorry, but I don’t think that would work. Aside from what Peter Pan already mentioned about Padme not being on her ship at that point in the movie, the video call scene is too closely tied to the beginning of the movie for it to work anywhere else, and it seems a bit weird that Padme would reveal her location to the Trade Feds just to taunt them. It’s an interesting idea, but it probably wouldn’t work in practice.

Cassian Andor - Live-Action Series

NFBisms said:

What’s your archetype psychoanalysis for someone who thinks the sequel trilogy is extremely apolitical, but that Andor is antifa lmao?

Someone who actually understands how politics works, rather than succumbing to oversimplified good-vs-evil propaganda. I love the politics of Andor for the same reasons you described: it has a strong message about rebelling against fascism, without showing said fascism in the ridiculous cartoonish way that the sequels did. The villains all have three-dimensional, compelling motivations, but that doesn’t mean they’re not evil. It toes the line between “Everyone who disagrees with me is literally Satan” and “Both sides are equally right somehow”, and does so brilliantly.

Cassian Andor - Live-Action Series

Vladius said:

With that said, Andor is going for a different tone. But I don’t think it’s necessarily just “darker” like people are saying.

Yeah, agreed there. If I had to describe the tone of Andor in just one word, it would be “real”. Every element of the series seems carefully chosen to make the Star Wars universe seem as grounded and believable as possible: the writing is full of subtle world-building rather than on-the-nose exposition, the set design prioritizes real sets and location filming over CGI backgrounds whenever possible, and even the actors look more ordinary and less “Hollywood-ish”. After the ultra-cheesy space opera of pretty much every installment from TROS onwards, it’s really neat to have a series that shows what it would be like to actually live in the Star Wars universe.

Andor Season 1 - Supercuts (3/4 Episodes Released)

Agreed 100%, Vranir! I like the overall trajectory of the show, but it’s slower than any TV show should ideally be. I’m not sure that the “movie-length stories split up into 3 chunks” plot structure is really a good idea.

Honestly, the easiest editing concept that could potentially fix that is just combining the 3-episode stories into actual movies, with 4 movies total for the first season. None of the atmosphere and slow-burn character building cut out, just reformatting it into a more rewarding format.

What is Your Preferred Watch Order, and Which Versions (Fan edits/official releases)?

Here’s another experimental order, heavily inspired by ScreamsInTheVoid’s post above. For this one, the focus is on a more “modern” introduction to the franchise for newcomers, while still showing the entire franchise as-is:

  1. Andor (gradually introduces the classic Star Wars concepts in a more mature, modern way)
  2. Rogue One (resolves Cassian’s story, and sets the stage for the OT)
  3. A New Hope (the most natural follow-up from Rogue One)
  4. The Empire Strikes Back (the most natural follow-up from ANH)
  5. The Phantom Menace (begins a lengthy “flashback” series after the ESB revelation)
  6. Attack of the Clones (the most natural follow-up from TPM)
  7. Revenge of the Sith (the most natural follow-up from AOTC)
  8. Obi-Wan Kenobi (bridges the gap between ROTS and the OT)
  9. Return of the Jedi (resolves both the OT and flashback plotlines)
  10. The Clone Wars (fleshes out the flashback timeline and begins the “Filoni-verse”)
  11. The Bad Batch (the most natural follow-up from TCW)
  12. Solo (only here because I didn’t know where else to put it)
  13. Rebels (continues plotlines from TCW and sets up new ones)
  14. The Mandalorian s1-s2 (continues plotlines from TCW and Rebels)
  15. The Book of Boba Fett (basically season 2.5 of Mandalorian)
  16. The Mandalorian s3 (the most natural follow-up from BOBF)
  17. Ahsoka (continues TCW and Rebels plotlines even further)
  18. The Force Awakens (the start of the grand finale)
  19. The Last Jedi (the most natural follow-up from TFA)
  20. The Rise of Skywalker (the “end of the franchise”, both thematically and chronologically)
Cassian Andor - Live-Action Series

MalaStrana#2 said:

The PT was definitely adult

Ah yes, because a cartoon alien stepping in camel poop while an annoying kid yells “Yippee!” is “definitely adult”. Are you sure we watched the same movies? The OT is way more mature than the prequels could ever hope to be.

Overall, I agree that “adult” doesn’t really mean “good”, but it’s still nice to get a more adult-oriented Star Wars thing. So far, this show has felt like the antidote to Boba Fett and Obi-Wan: the focus is on telling a compelling, mature story with mostly original characters, rather than cheap callbacks and cameos held together by a flimsy excuse of a plot. This is the first Star Wars thing since Mando season 1 that feels like there was actually passion put into it.

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Yeah, agreed with everyone else on Filoni’s lack of subtlety. It’s hard to take Clone Wars fans who gush about how “dark and mature” the show is seriously when the show literally states the moral at the beginning like an episode of GI Joe. Filoni has some good ideas, but he needs someone like Favreau to moderate his more childish impulses.