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#1284346
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Idea & Info: Episodes 1-9 into ONE cohesive Fanedit?
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Peter Pan said:

SparkySywer said:

I tried to edit the OT into a 3 in 1 movie, I consider it a failure.

For one, 3 in 1 prequel edits work because the prequels have a ton of filler, and the OT doesn’t really. There is a ton of stuff you could cut (the point of my 3 in 1 edit was to have one single Death Star, so obviously the Death Star attack in ANH could go), but not nearly as much. I couldn’t really get it shorter than 3h55, and I cheated by speeding it up from 23.976 FPS to 25 FPS.

Secondly, I felt like having the Jabba’s Palace sequence in the same movie as Han getting frozen in carbonite was… bad? It felt like backtracking, although I could also see it being like a chance to see more of the universe? In a meta way?

I don’t know. Don’t let this discourage you, rocknroll41’s idea especially seems promising. I’m just warning you it’ll definitely be hard to get to work.

I think the best way to handle Han being frozen in carbonite is to cut this subplot.

Yet I am unsure on how to do so. The best way I see is to adjust the scene of Lando visiting Han, Leia, Chewie and 3PO in their cell, so it is hinted that he may help them and then dubb the dialogue of an imperial officer telling Vader that the prisoners escaped.
On bord of the falcon Han would rest, still suffering, because he was tortured by the Empire (use the scene of him laying down on the plank bed in the cell).

The most difficult challenge would be to add Han to the escape from Cloud City sequence.
Even though he would be unable to fight, because of the torture he experienced a few minutes ago.

I also have a slight feeling a very skilled editor could change the ending to RotJ to have Han be killed in the freezing process. This is probably easier, though.

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#1284036
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Idea & Info: Episodes 1-9 into ONE cohesive Fanedit?
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I tried to edit the OT into a 3 in 1 movie, I consider it a failure.

For one, 3 in 1 prequel edits work because the prequels have a ton of filler, and the OT doesn’t really. There is a ton of stuff you could cut (the point of my 3 in 1 edit was to have one single Death Star, so obviously the Death Star attack in ANH could go), but not nearly as much. I couldn’t really get it shorter than 3h55, and I cheated by speeding it up from 23.976 FPS to 25 FPS.

Secondly, I felt like having the Jabba’s Palace sequence in the same movie as Han getting frozen in carbonite was… bad? It felt like backtracking, although I could also see it being like a chance to see more of the universe? In a meta way?

I don’t know. Don’t let this discourage you, rocknroll41’s idea especially seems promising. I’m just warning you it’ll definitely be hard to get to work.

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#1283924
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Star Wars: Death of the Author
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Originally this post rambled on and on and on about my philosophical opinion of canon, but I’m editing this to be less horribly off-putting, lol.

What is Death of the Author?

In short, it’s an attempt at our own fan-made Star Wars Expanded Universe entirely populated with fan-written stories, with a completely separate continuity from both the Old Legends EU and the New Disney EU. Everything from both continuities, all media, including all movies except for the Original Trilogy, is being thrown out. We’re starting from scratch from the Source Material.

Throwing out the prequel trilogy and the sequel trilogy entails writing our own prequel and sequel trilogies, which is our first order of business, but won’t be our only order of business.

I should note that this doesn’t come out of hatred for the prequels or sequels, or the New or Old EUs. We aren’t throwing them out as an act of criticism, but as an expression of creativity. We have fans and critics of the prequels, we have fans and critics of the sequels, and fans and critics of both EUs.

Why is Death of the Author?

There are a few reasons behind the creation of Death of the Author, and why you might be interested in joining.

We are canon anarchists. Cananarchists. We think individuals should be able to create their own stories set in a fictional universe they love, no one group should be able to determine what interpretations are correct and which aren’t. This is us taking canonicity into our own hands. This is also where the name comes from: While the concept of Death of the Author isn’t exactly this, the concept that there’s no authority who determines which interpretations are correct and which aren’t is one we agree with.

Many of us are also interested in creating a fictional history, an interconnected web of events in an ever evolving universe. Seeing how we fare as worldbuilders, in writing our own lore, will be an interesting experiment. This is especially true, since our motivation isn’t to put butts in seats or to sell books, our finished products will be very different.

We’re also interested in the collaborative aspect of this project. It’s one thing for one rando to write their own Star Wars stories, it’s another when an entire community of fans gets together to write their own universe. Apes together strong.

What’s in Death of the Author?

As of now, it’s still a blank slate, waiting to be written on. Obi-Wan says in the original Star Wars that the Jedi Knights defended the Republic for over a thousand generations, that’s a thousand generations of unwritten history to be filled, probably more going back further, absolutely more for stories after Return of the Jedi.

We have some broad strokes of ideas, which I’ll post about in a comment below, but as for definitive stories, it’s still waiting for you to fill.

Death of the Author

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#1283828
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Rewriting the OT-What would you do?
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Since the OT is the source material of Star Wars, I’m assuming you mean a complete Star Wars reboot, and not something in the same vein as prequel rewrites where I’d have to keep them in line with some existing material.

I’ve always liked the idea of a 1800s or pre-WWI 1900s Star Wars with some anachronism. It’s set on one planet, with boats instead of spaceships, real sabers instead of light sabers, Vader is a full-on samurai. Technology and culture haven’t evolved in the same way on this planet as our own, so naval warfare technology is advanced, with WWII-era planes (to keep that dogfighting babey), but other areas of technology are lagging. The Death Star would be the first nuclear weapon this world has seen.

Cybernetics is a bit of a stretch, though, so Vader can’t be a cyborg, and Luke can’t lose a hand. Vader is probably horribly disfigured from self-mutilation, maybe to bring himself more in line with the Dark Side of the Force, maybe that’s just something he does. He wears a mask to cover this up, not to help breathe.

The plot would be like how I, someone who has never read a Marvel comic, think the MCU treats the comics: Some ideas and themes, and maybe the premises of each story are taken, but they’re not super faithful. General arcs of most characters and their characterization would remain the same: Vader is still a bad guy who turns good because of his son, Luke still starts out as a Jedi’s son who wants to be more like his father, only to find out his father is a monster, but then finds out he isn’t and tries to redeem him. Han is still a scumbag who turns good, etc. Maybe some premises would draw inspiration from the actual OT movies, but no story identical to any of them would exist.

I’d think maybe the best format is a series show like Game of Thrones. A normal TV show I feel wouldn’t have enough weight, but it’s sacrilege to make a Star Wars cinematic reboot. Each season should have a defining thing about the plot, Season 1 might be the Death Star season, Season 2 might be the season with XYZ, Season 3 is the ZYX season, etc.

The Death Star would be a looming presence for a significant chunk of the show, if not the whole show, and there would only be one Death Star.

Vader being Luke’s father couldn’t be a twist, so maybe we can exploit that and put subplots of Vader finding out who Luke is in earlier seasons.

The show would be entirely OT-based. There could definitely be flashback or flash forward episodes, but the bulk of the show is with the OT cast of characters. In these flashbacks, the contrast between Anakin and Vader should be as much as possible, and Anakin should be as similar to Luke as possible. Where Vader is a horribly mutilated, disfigured creature, Anakin is a stunningly handsome specimen of a man. He’s uncannily similar to Luke in personality. Any dark side stuff that’s started yet is hidden well. No rage-filled outbursts. He’s also just an all-around cool guy. Someone you’d hate to see fall.

I wouldn’t have Luke and Leia be siblings. Luke could have a sister, maybe named Nellith like what she was in older drafts of Empire and Jedi.

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#1277645
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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snooker said:

My source was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZasLcoKWlY.

I don’t have the DVD copy of the movie, and I assume that the one on the Star Wars official YouTube channel is the best quality version of it considering it was uploaded more than a decade after the DVDs came out and could take advantage of everything that goes with that. If anyone has a direct, lossless rip from the DVD itself it might help, but I just don’t think anything will help it exactly match the surrounding footage.

Youtube definitely compressed it, though. The DVD version might not actually look all that bad compared to the Youtube version. They’re both 480p, anyway.

Color correction could also help make it stand out less.

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#1277457
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Idea & Info Wanted: The Force Awakens - a PG edit?
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DominicCobb said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I mean, that’s literally the only example of censorship in the SE’s. Nothing else in ANH or anything in ESB or ROTJ were censored when it was resubmitted to the MPAA in 1997, and again, both TPM and AOTC were given PG ratings in 1999 and 2002.

A lot has changed since then. Hard to think of many movies in recent years with similar content to the first 5 Star Warses that haven’t been rated PG-13. I’d bet if the films were made today they all would get PG-13, save maybe TPM.

A man gets cut in half. I’d say that would be PG-13 today.

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#1275890
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Idea & Info Wanted: The Force Awakens - a PG edit?
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It’s important to keep in mind that before 1984, the ratings system was completely different. G meant for kids, PG meant for teenagers (kids aren’t recommended), R meant for adults (kids aren’t allowed without parental permission), and X meant kids aren’t allowed whatsoever under any circumstances (usually porn, but not always).

PG-13 not only didn’t exist, but PG of the time was definitely harder than PG-13 of today, and while the Original Trilogy wouldn’t be considered R today, a lot of PG movies of the 80s would be considered R today (especially horror movies, which is what prompted the redesign of the ratings system, people thought PG meant okay for kids when it did not). Additionally, I’m pretty sure all three OT movies would get PG-13, and maybe my hatred for American puritanism exaggerates this in my mind, but I’d imagine RotJ might push it with Slave Leia. All three of them are harder than anything in the sequels or prequels.