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SparkySywer

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#1372301
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Anakin Starkiller said:

I feel like it’s stronger if he’s actively trying to think of something casual and relaxing, like watching space anime. It gives the impression he’s trying to relax but can’t because he’s in such a horrible situation.

I’m not sure how I feel about video games and other electronic entertainment existing in the Star Wars universe.

TheAlaskanSandman said:

idir_hh said:

In Revenge of The Sith when Anakin is playing on that Nintendo wii u looking thing, can we make it look like he is checking on Ashoka in the siege of Mandalore?

Imo the only thing this scene needs, is glimpses of Padame and Obiwan together mixed in his vision to give impression of infidelity.

I agree. It’s cool fanservice but doesn’t really make sense in the context of the movie.

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#1372155
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Original Trilogy Edits - some changes are justified
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HarrisHolt said:

Like when they knocked down some walls in the Cloud City.

I feel very strongly about this.

Irvin Kershner chose to make it so the sets got more and more constricted and claustrophobic as the Empire closes in on the Rebels, to give the audience that same feeling of claustrophobia. Then George Lucas comes in and adds these CGI windows that don’t even look right, and mucks it all up.

For someone who moans about original visions so much, it’s pretty ironic that he disrespects Kershner’s original vision.

The discourse around this change can get so weird, too. It’s as if people think the lack of windows was an accident or something. Someone even told me once that there wasn’t any windows because of a technological limitation making ESB. They do realize there have been windows in movies since 1895, right? Hell, the unaltered cut of ESB had windows, just less of them.

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#1371585
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What is the main Star Wars Saga about?
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ANH has a soft ending. Everything introduced in ANH is wrapped up before the credits roll. It’s a soft enough ending, though, that ESB and RotJ can reopen it without undermining ANH.

For example, Luke’s arc in ANH is to trust in the spiritual aspect of the world over the material. It’s resolved when he relies on the Force instead of his targeting computer to destroy the Death Star. However, ESB reopens it as he starts to become a Jedi, and his arc is given a hard ending in RotJ when he beats Vader but doesn’t kill him.

But that soft ending is still there in ANH, and you can easily view ANH as the only Star Wars movie.

As another example, Breaking Bad was supposed to end with Season 4. Everything’s wrapped up and every conflict is resolved, and hell it even ends with Walt saying “It’s over. We’re safe. I won.” You could stop at Face Off and have a complete story.

But Heisenberg is still at large, Walt’s still dealing drugs, you can keep the story going from there, and they did continue the story in a fifth season. So it’s only a soft ending.

I don’t know, maybe that’s what’s going on? I’m not Shopping Maul so I can’t tell you for sure but I imagine that’s what’s going on.

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#1371383
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What is the main Star Wars Saga about?
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The overarching story George Lucas says is in 1-6 does not exist in the OT. The OT is way more like the first, second, and third movie in a three-part story than a fourth, fifth, and sixth in a six-part story, and ANH and ESB, the first two movies, are entirely filler in a supposed story about Anakin Skywalker. Hell, I can barely imagine the PT as taking place in the same universe as the OT. That’s not even a low the ST descends to.

The story of Star Wars begins in Episode 4 and ends in Episode 6. 1-3 are an entirely separate story that acts as a prequel to Star Wars. 7-9 are an entirely separate story that acts as a sequel to Star Wars.

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#1368204
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Yeah, I agree. I’ve felt like making a less-bathos cut of TLJ, but I wouldn’t cut out all that much. I might not even cut out the lightsaber toss, they have a purpose.

Where Marvel humor seems to only be there out of self consciousness of the dumber aspects of the superhero genre, TLJ’s bathos serves a worthwhile purpose. I think Rian Johnson went too far in a lot of places, but especially after watching his commentary I know what he was going for.

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#1368188
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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JakeRyan17 said:

Not much has changed at Lucasfilm pre/post Disney, even though it may seem like it.

Most of the people who worked on the ST also worked on the PT. It’s half the reason the ST was made, and probably 100% of the reason Star Wars was sold to Disney, so that they’d still have jobs after Lucas retired.

Knight of Kalee said:

thebluefrog said:

It’s like…anime. I like anime, but it’s horrendously rife with “serious moment…then you MUST break the tension with sight gag/dialogue.” I’m betting Rian must be a hardcore anime fan.

I found the humor in TLJ more akin to the one present in some Marvel movies. The MCU entries are full of bathos and comic moments that break the mood of serious or dramatic scenes (Thor Ragnarok comes to mind).

TLJ, Marvel, and anime all have bathos, but they all use it in different ways, and in different amounts.

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#1367785
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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thebluefrog said:

StarkillerAG said:
But Yoda was only a joke for one scene in ESB, and he was intentionally acting silly to test Luke’s patience. It wasn’t his entire character for the whole movie, like slapstick Hux in TLJ.

I realized what was so “off” about TLJ’s tone: it felt like the prequels–specifically, Phantom Menace.

I agree TLJ has a different tone than the OT and the rest of the ST, and it’s a fact Rian’s a bigger prequel fan than anyone except maybe Kathleen Kennedy, but I wouldn’t really say it’s similar to TPM or either of the two prequels.

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#1365362
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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TheAlaskanSandman said:

SparkySywer said:

Movies Remastered said:

Wasn’t that virtually Ivans edit without the “it belongs to you now” VO?

Not at all. I wouldn’t consider Ivan’s edit remotely conservative.

Even if it was, though, Ivan’s enough of a shitty person that I wouldn’t keep his fanedit around on principle. Profiting off his fanedit is an asshole thing to do and dangerous to fanediting communities like this one.

Who and what edit? Thats messed up to charge people

He wasn’t charging people. Sorry if I wasn’t clear. But he was putting ads on his videos and using patreon to profit off the fanedit, which is still pretty deep into unethical territory and still jeopardizes fanediting communities.

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#1365327
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Movies Remastered said:

Wasn’t that virtually Ivans edit without the “it belongs to you now” VO?

Not at all. I wouldn’t consider Ivan’s edit remotely conservative.

Even if it was, though, Ivan’s enough of a shitty person that I wouldn’t keep his fanedit around on principle. Profiting off his fanedit is an asshole thing to do and dangerous to fanediting communities like this one.