SparkySywer

Marge Simpson said:

It’s true, but he shouldn’t say it.

DominicCobb said:

In an homage to Turkish Star Wars, anytime there’s a sound effect the music stops playing.

Star Wars: NES Edition

JadedSkywalker said:

Anniversary’s have little meaning if you cannot enjoy the films the company was founded for.

I assume We’ll hit the 40th of Return of the Jedi in 2023 and no original version will be released.

I’m not holding my breath on Original versions of THX 1138 or American Graffiti either.

Mr Lucas is my all time favorite director, its a shame i cannot enjoy the films as they were.

It’s a little funny that Lucas showed up to the 40th anniversary of Star Wars when he’d been spending the last 20 years talking about how his Star Wars never existed until 1997. Go make your own 20th anniversary celebration.

What changes were made to American Graffiti? I was only aware of the changes to THX and Star Wars (and a few hard to notice changes to Indiana Jones).

This meme has not aged well

You could have both. Just repeat the video. We don’t care about quality in this thread.

Sounds more like he’s a moron who’s bad at interviews and trying to sound profound than someone who has a catastrophic misunderstanding of Star Wars.

The problem is that it pretty neatly falls into the 1960s-1980s “Pushy guy gets the girl even though she repeatedly refuses his advances” trope. I think the hotshot deleted scene is kind of the only thing that can fix it completely, although I suppose it could be downplayed.

NeverarGreat said:

SparkySywer said:

Not a fan of the SEs or this change, but the usual reason given in favor of it is that Vader’s hiding information from Palpatine. He doesn’t want Palpatine to know that he already knows Luke is his son.

It raises a few more questions, though. Like, why would Palpatine care if Vader already heard about it? Or, why is the movie bringing this up when it’s never really relevant again? Plus, I don’t think that’s actually what Lucas had in mind when making the change.

But that explanation isn’t so horrible, and while I much prefer the original, it’s good enough for me. What bothers me more about the scene is Palpatine’s RotS makeup.

I wouldn’t call SE fans insane, though.

That explanation doesn’t really fly for me, since it takes a spectacular amount of obtuseness for Vader to not at least suspect that the Force-sensitive teenager who blew up the Death Star named Skywalker is his kid. Acting dumb just makes him look like a buffoon in front of the Emperor. Besides, since Vader is openly calling this kid ‘Skywalker’ from the beginning in an obsessive hunt, there’s no reason that the Emperor wouldn’t know his reasons for searching. Hell, I’m sure the paperwork on the probe droid operation would have been labeled ‘The Search for Skywalker - Probable Child of the Famous Jedi of the Same Name’.

Also, the idea that Vader would have some ill-will towards Palpatine for calling Padme’s death a few hours early seems like a stretch. It’s technically true that Anakin and his anger killed her, even if the details aren’t exactly as it seemed in ROTS. The fact is that Padme eventually died at Anakin’s hand and a child exists, something that isn’t impossible so Vader’s astonishment, feigned or not, is silly.

Yeah, I absolutely agree with everything here, plus these reasons probably weren’t even in mind while making the change. He probably thought “Wait, I made Anakin think Padme was dead in RotS” and made the change without putting any thought into the context whatsoever.

As far as ad hoc explanations go, though, I’ve seen far worse.

JadedSkywalker said:

If they had to make the change should have matched the Jedi makeup, used the original line reading and had Ian McDiarmid use the same inflection. Just so you know this is a 2004 change the original Emperor is in the 1997 version of the Special Edition. Just like Jason Wingreen is also Boba Fett not Temuera Morrison in the 97 edit of Empire.

IIRC they just pulled Ian aside one day on-set for RotS. That’s why the makeup doesn’t match.

What’s really depressing with the later releases of the OT is how little effort they put in after the 2000s.

Hey, man… the Book of Henry was awful, but DotF was still better than TRoS.

JadedSkywalker said:

It would have worked if Anakin was in his twenties in episode I and by the end of the trilogy he was in his forties. But that would have made Padme older by extension.

Maybe Anakin and Padme were each others’ second marriage and Luke and Leia were the kids remarried couples seem to have so often in their late 40s.

You could then retroactively add some fanservice and make another OT character a Skywalker.

Boba Fett is Luke’s brother?

I imagine the thought process when casting Shaw was “Dads are old, cast an old guy.” And that’s honestly the impression I get from Shaw Anakin, too. If you think about the actors’ ages, Shaw was way too old to play Luke’s dad. But in the final movie, he just gives me the vibe of the father of an adult son. So it never bothered me.

Maybe you could explain it away with how the dark side had been rotting him away for more than half his life.

Not a fan of the SEs or this change, but the usual reason given in favor of it is that Vader’s hiding information from Palpatine. He doesn’t want Palpatine to know that he already knows Luke is his son.

It raises a few more questions, though. Like, why would Palpatine care if Vader already heard about it? Or, why is the movie bringing this up when it’s never really relevant again? Plus, I don’t think that’s actually what Lucas had in mind when making the change.

But that explanation isn’t so horrible, and while I much prefer the original, it’s good enough for me. What bothers me more about the scene is Palpatine’s RotS makeup.

I wouldn’t call SE fans insane, though.

Anakin Starkiller said:

It is when you remember that the reason Luke’s lightsaber was changed to green for ROTJ was because the lightsaber’s blue color blended with the sky too much, making it hard to see.

Just recolor the sky, silly.

A great fix to our problem

That’s much more manageable in a modern fanedit than with 80s SFX methods.

Hey, that’s not that bad of an edit.

The firing of Colin Trevorrow caused the capitol riots

If the Coruscant Riots were included in Episode 9, the Trump supporters would have been embarrassed to play it out and wouldn’t have done it

Have a voiceover like in Who Killed Captain Alex

I don’t know, guys, there’s something that really hit the spot with Yoda lifting up the X-Wing in TRoS. It so completely and fully undermines Luke’s character, all these years later he still hasn’t progressed in his arc enough to lift the X-Wing.

I can imagine someone unironically defending the ghost colors one, though. That was pretty bad. This thread’s on a roll lately. No offense to Ed, though.

DominicCobb said:

SparkySywer said:

Hal I think you’ve come pretty close to the very Worst Edit Idea

How about when Rey defeats Palpatine you suddenly see Anakin’s face deepfaked on top of hers.

That sounds like a Frink edit therefore it’s good, wrong thread

Hal I think you’ve come pretty close to the very Worst Edit Idea

Skywalker? Well, you won’t be needing this, then.

NeverarGreat said:

I mean that the ending of ESB is more pointedly existential than AOTC and it retains its focus on the core drama.

Man, just like RogueLeader said, it’s funny seeing an actually really interesting idea like this in the Worst Edit thread. Never thought of it like this, and it explains a lot.

I’m the tallest person at my work. There’s not a whole lot of people there so it’s not an accomplishment or anything, but it’s funny, because I’m only very slightly above average. I just work with a lot of short people for some reason.

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I really want to make a Blackened Mantle style ST edit because I have more defined ideas for how that might play out than a PT edit in that style. Is the Japanese voice acting any good for the ST? Because that was a big factor in Blackened Mantle’s creation, originally.