SparkySywer

JadedSkywalker said:

If they had to make the change should have matched the Jedi makeup, used the original line reading and had Ian McDiarmid use the same inflection. Just so you know this is a 2004 change the original Emperor is in the 1997 version of the Special Edition. Just like Jason Wingreen is also Boba Fett not Temuera Morrison in the 97 edit of Empire.

IIRC they just pulled Ian aside one day on-set for RotS. That’s why the makeup doesn’t match.

What’s really depressing with the later releases of the OT is how little effort they put in after the 2000s.

Hey, man… the Book of Henry was awful, but DotF was still better than TRoS.

JadedSkywalker said:

It would have worked if Anakin was in his twenties in episode I and by the end of the trilogy he was in his forties. But that would have made Padme older by extension.

Maybe Anakin and Padme were each others’ second marriage and Luke and Leia were the kids remarried couples seem to have so often in their late 40s.

You could then retroactively add some fanservice and make another OT character a Skywalker.

Boba Fett is Luke’s brother?

I imagine the thought process when casting Shaw was “Dads are old, cast an old guy.” And that’s honestly the impression I get from Shaw Anakin, too. If you think about the actors’ ages, Shaw was way too old to play Luke’s dad. But in the final movie, he just gives me the vibe of the father of an adult son. So it never bothered me.

Maybe you could explain it away with how the dark side had been rotting him away for more than half his life.

Not a fan of the SEs or this change, but the usual reason given in favor of it is that Vader’s hiding information from Palpatine. He doesn’t want Palpatine to know that he already knows Luke is his son.

It raises a few more questions, though. Like, why would Palpatine care if Vader already heard about it? Or, why is the movie bringing this up when it’s never really relevant again? Plus, I don’t think that’s actually what Lucas had in mind when making the change.

But that explanation isn’t so horrible, and while I much prefer the original, it’s good enough for me. What bothers me more about the scene is Palpatine’s RotS makeup.

I wouldn’t call SE fans insane, though.

Anakin Starkiller said:

It is when you remember that the reason Luke’s lightsaber was changed to green for ROTJ was because the lightsaber’s blue color blended with the sky too much, making it hard to see.

Just recolor the sky, silly.

A great fix to our problem

That’s much more manageable in a modern fanedit than with 80s SFX methods.

Hey, that’s not that bad of an edit.

The firing of Colin Trevorrow caused the capitol riots

If the Coruscant Riots were included in Episode 9, the Trump supporters would have been embarrassed to play it out and wouldn’t have done it

Have a voiceover like in Who Killed Captain Alex

I don’t know, guys, there’s something that really hit the spot with Yoda lifting up the X-Wing in TRoS. It so completely and fully undermines Luke’s character, all these years later he still hasn’t progressed in his arc enough to lift the X-Wing.

I can imagine someone unironically defending the ghost colors one, though. That was pretty bad. This thread’s on a roll lately. No offense to Ed, though.

DominicCobb said:

SparkySywer said:

Hal I think you’ve come pretty close to the very Worst Edit Idea

How about when Rey defeats Palpatine you suddenly see Anakin’s face deepfaked on top of hers.

That sounds like a Frink edit therefore it’s good, wrong thread

Hal I think you’ve come pretty close to the very Worst Edit Idea

Skywalker? Well, you won’t be needing this, then.

NeverarGreat said:

I mean that the ending of ESB is more pointedly existential than AOTC and it retains its focus on the core drama.

Man, just like RogueLeader said, it’s funny seeing an actually really interesting idea like this in the Worst Edit thread. Never thought of it like this, and it explains a lot.

I’m the tallest person at my work. There’s not a whole lot of people there so it’s not an accomplishment or anything, but it’s funny, because I’m only very slightly above average. I just work with a lot of short people for some reason.

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I really want to make a Blackened Mantle style ST edit because I have more defined ideas for how that might play out than a PT edit in that style. Is the Japanese voice acting any good for the ST? Because that was a big factor in Blackened Mantle’s creation, originally.

BrotherOfSasquatch said:

This might be a dumb idea but would it be possible to just lift the scene of Rey watching the ship liftoff in the TFA trailer/TFA and use that as Rey’s parents leaving? That way, you can have two different ships for Ochi and Reyrents.

That’s not a dumb idea and it would probably be the best option, unless you go with SherlockPotter’s suggestion or if you want to bank on Dom’s idea. I think some people might be reluctant to change TFA for TRoS’s sake, though.

DZ-330 said:

I’m honestly surprised he hasn’t been banned yet.

He has been banned actually lol

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Even if they look different (not sure what the difference is) they’re too similar as is if you want them to be different ships. More drastic changes would probably be needed.

Looks good! I wonder if someone could add in Anakin’s eye scar to that scene?

Servii said:

Okay, I have a confession to make. I’ve watched Nerdonymous’ other videos, but I hadn’t actually gotten around to finishing this one yet. From what you’re describing, Sparky, I have to agree that it sounds pretty bad. It sounds more like he’s just lashing out against the anti-George Lucas sentiment rather than actually offering a coherent counterpoint to the video. I must admit I’m disappointed in this guy.

My apologies then for including your name in my comment

G&G-Fan said:

When did he bash fan preservations?

1 hour 48 minutes 49 seconds is when Nerdonymous starts talking about it, maybe start a few seconds earlier for context.

Edit: To make it more clear, he responds to a part of RocketJump’s video talking about fan preservations, specifically showing a clip from Harmy’s making of video, and compares it to “George Lucas raped my childhood” bullshit from the time.

Rodney-2187 said:

Without George Lucas, there would be no Star Wars. Period.

This is also an important mentality to have. Because while Lucas’s revisionism is BS and harmful, and while Nerdonymous’s video is incorrect in asserting RJ’s video was an attempt at discrediting George Lucas, there are people who do want to discredit George Lucas, and that’s wrong too.

Plus, there’s a quote by exurb1a I think is relevant for people who don’t like the prequels. Paraphrasing it because I can’t be bothered looking it up: “The key to happiness is recognizing that the prequels were awful, but thanking George Lucas for the Original Trilogy anyway.”

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I’ve personally never heard of Rick Worley before.