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- #1430571
- Topic
- Did Maul turn good before he died?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1430571/action/topic#1430571
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Seemed good to me
Seemed good to me
Print out every frame from the office Inkjet and flash them really fast to save electricity
The link SandMTV posted links to a video with a 15 character ID (f2ynu4megZFmo8U), but every YouTube video has an 11 character ID. Conclusion: Sand is from a distant future where they ran out of YouTube IDs and had to add four more digits.
@SparkySywer You didn’t finish the second section on your comment.
There is no second section, the second quote is just the thing I was referring to. I was unclear
Add the scene of Anakin killing Obi-Wan while he’s about to depart for Utapau.
I wasn’t able to watch that.
Me neither, it was pretty heart wrenching
My friend came up with Yung Paul Rudd today watching something he was in from the 90s
I personally think most of the issues people point to are fairly surface-level stuff that doesn’t really damage the movie as a whole. A second Death Star makes sense in-universe.
Return of the Jedi is a great movie, but I kind of think this is a stretch. The last one didn’t work, why would a second one with essentially no changes work this time? Palpatine gets a surprise attack on the Rebels I guess, but he still dies, they still lose the Sanctuary Moon, and the loss on Endor doomed the Empire.
Just because your expensive military hardware is destroyed in a battle, you do not simply stop making that hardware. When a country lost a capital warship during the World War I or World War II, they did not just say “oh that did not work, let’s stop building new ones” or “oh that did not work, let’s just stick to building small torpedo boats instead”.
If capital warships were incredibly expensive and had a well known, easily exploitable weak point that leads to total, irreparable destruction, they probably might have said that.
Yeah
Either way, if he was manipulating her here, why not go with the Palpatine manipulation right off the bat? Pull the same stuff he says in TRoS instead of waiting a year?
Kylo didn’t know by then, Palpatine told him on Exegol. If anything the question becomes why did Palpatine do the waiting.
So then he isn’t lying to manipulate her.
He was using what he knew to manipulate her. Common dark side tactic. An outright lie can be seen through with the force, but something that is true or believed to be true can be a powerful weapon when it is properly twisted.
If it’s not a lie, why bring it up? The whole argument was that Kylo was not being honest, so Rey being a Nobody doesn’t make sense.
The way TLJ is written, the whole “your parents were nobody” was all Kylo trying to turn her. So it being the unvarnished truth doesn’t make a lot of sense.
My friend from high school called himself Lil Cuban Missile Crisis. Technically taken but felt like sharing
Either way, if he was manipulating her here, why not go with the Palpatine manipulation right off the bat? Pull the same stuff he says in TRoS instead of waiting a year?
Kylo didn’t know by then, Palpatine told him on Exegol. If anything the question becomes why did Palpatine do the waiting.
So then he isn’t lying to manipulate her.
Can we maybe agree on a blanket ban on saying ideas belong in the Worst Edit Ideas thread? I understand that people generally say it as joke, but it’s not a particularly positive or constructive thing for someone to hear when they float an idea.
I agree with Captain Faraday
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The way the scene’s shot and the way Adam Driver and Daisy Ridley give their performances, it makes it clear that he’s just getting her to admit what she already knew was true. He may (may) be manipulating her, but he’s not manipulating the truth.
Either way, if he was manipulating her here, why not go with the Palpatine manipulation right off the bat? Pull the same stuff he says in TRoS instead of waiting a year? What happens when Rey finds out she’s not a nobody? Because that’s definitely going to eventually happen.
The word Sith existed before the prequels, but what they were and what it meant that Vader (and only Vader, not Palpatine) was one of them was undecided. Or hell, while that deleted scene explicitly says Vader is a Sith, that’s something Legends writers tried to go back on (He was a Lord of the Sith, maybe that meant the Sith were a group of people he ruled over, despite not being one of them?)
The way TLJ is written, the whole “your parents were nobody” was all Kylo trying to turn her. So it being the unvarnished truth doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Rey’s the one who says it though, not Kylo.
Very cool! I’ll probably read this at work tomorrow.
I personally think most of the issues people point to are fairly surface-level stuff that doesn’t really damage the movie as a whole. A second Death Star makes sense in-universe.
Return of the Jedi is a great movie, but I kind of think this is a stretch. The last one didn’t work, why would a second one with essentially no changes work this time? Palpatine gets a surprise attack on the Rebels I guess, but he still dies, they still lose the Sanctuary Moon, and the loss on Endor doomed the Empire.
5% as in a tenth of the well intentioned people who end up getting it wrong, or 5% as in 5% of the final total?
Swap the 3rd quarter of ROTS with the first and call it episode IX. Swap the first quarter of TROS with the 3rd and call it episode III.
What?
Just think about it for a sec.
This is one of those top tier posts that I didn’t get until about eight hours later when it idly crossed my mind in the middle of the night.
I was about to say the exact same thing. I thought it was just nonsense and was okay with that before reading a second time. Dom’s mind truly expands further than my feeble brain could ever conceive.
But isn’t it more or less the same with the NuEU?
If the Old EU is 50% well intentioned writers who just don’t get it, 40% malicious writers, and 10% great writers, the New EU is the same but with the malicious writers removed, at least IMO. Quick math says that’s 83% well intentioned writers and 16% good additions.
I’m looking forward to your script. I’m more interested in this than Bad Batch, lol.
I wonder if it would be a good idea to show Luke’s lightsaber retracting in the final Academy flashback. To make the point of the scene more clear and dispel the misreading of the movie of Luke trying to kill Ben for having a bad dream. He’d have to re-ignite it when Ben attacks him, too, of course.
Had a go at making it. It’s a little rough and I think someone who’s more skilled (and also has access to better toys) than me might be able to do better. I just kinda cut out a shot to avoid the problem of the glow. It makes the continuity a little weird but it’s not so bad.
I painted out the green reflection in Kylo’s eyes but not from Luke’s eyes. To be honest, it’s because I didn’t notice you could really see it in Luke’s eyes that late in the shot until after I uploaded the youtube video and I didn’t take it down because I can’t guarantee I’ll have the same fixation on this when I got home from work tomorrow to fix it and reupload lol. Doing it would probably sell the retraction more, though.
I used EBSynth because painting out the reflection for 78 frames would be tedious, and I feel like there was a bit of a drop in quality because of that? But it’s probably no longer even visible thanks to youtube compression. Regardless, I’d probably do them all manually before ever putting them in a finished fanedit.
Speaking of which, I never noticed it before, but the sound in this scene is great.
I hope this is some kind of misdirect, or he’s like, just taking some of Luke’s genes to get the Midichlorians for his strandcasts or whatever. The new canon mostly does a decent job of not plucking the sillier elements of Legends. Doesn’t Mando, which is set years after this comic, suggest that the cloning still hasn’t achieved Force sensitivity - that’s why Herzog wanted Grogu so badly, right?
Edit: irrelevant note - does anyone have any idea of how to more clearly communicate that Rey deflecting the lightning back at Sheev is also killing her? In the movie she just randomly collapses, and I think it’d land a lot better if it was made clear that she was sustaining injuries while fighting him. It’d also make her come across as braver to keep pushing despite being hurt, it’d make Sheev continuing to zap her seem mildly less foolish if he was actually doing some damage.
EBSynth might be able to put burns on her, but I’m not very familiar with it