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Kylo feels the very thing that destroyed Anakin. But doesn’t
make him feel weak.
He looks at Rey’s outstretched hand…and TAKES IT.
Both light and dark swirl within Rey as Kylo is reduced to an
empty shell. A man without power. A frightened boy.
Kylo and Rey collapse into one another, each propping the
other up on their knees.
Rey is close to him now. Their foreheads touching.
He is weakened, spent. In the last moments of his life.
Rey is stunned to hear her name. Distant, like a memory.
Your name.
(last breath)
Rey McScriff.
Those words are Ben Solo’s last.

The Sequels - George's Original Trilogy

BB-Rey said:

I really get the impression from taking into account this, George’s conversation with James Cameron, and the Yoda arc that they’re Immortal beings who study and watch the events of the mortal beings and they are the Force. They created Anakin to combat the growing threat of the Dark Side which took the Force out of Balance as it may have always been told by a central Whill. It makes me wonder if part of the journey of the Sequel Trilogy would’ve been about the grandchildren of Anakin discovering their deeper connection to the Force. Similar in a way to the Ones on Mortis. They’d become the embodiments of Light and Dark to maintain long term balance with Anakin serving as Father.

Thank God we never got George Lucas’s sequel trilogy

Worst Edit Ideas

The controversy over how Dooku died, in Episode III, what I did was try to clean up the confusion, but obviously it upset people because they wanted Anakin to be a cold-blooded killer, but he actually isn’t. It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that Dooku is the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Anakin just cut off his head, because they wanted to think that he actually just murdered him in cold blood.

Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread

Knight of Kalee said:

SparkySywer said:

Love the Cantina color correction. Hal’s is also fantastic, but I’m not sure if I could tell the difference between the unaltered movie and Hal’s color correction.

Take a look to the skin colors especially on character faces. The original blue or greenish hue made them look sickly in some shots.

What, you mean to tell me that Kylo Ren doesn’t have cancer?

Idea: If every Movie had a post credit scene

Eyepainter said:

Willrow-Hood said:

Anyone is free to try and make this happen, because I don’t have the prowess, but what if every Star Wars movie had its own post credit scene? What scene would you give to each movie? Personally, I think this would work great for ROTJ:
The deleted scene of Yoda on Dagobah would be cool for ROTS as well.

I might be a jerk for saying this, but I would never have a post credits scene for any Star Wars movie. Period. To me, post credits scenes are better served in Marvel movies where the whole point is to entice you with sneak peeks into future movies. It works in a comic book sort of way, since a lot of comics end with cliffhangers. Star Wars, while it does share influence with comics, is better off without them. The only place where it could work might be in The Mandalorian, but only because it’s a TV show that promises episode after episode after episode. But as for the franchise itself, it’s just three movies every 10 to 20 years. What’s the point?

Yeah. Star Wars movies don’t really work in the same way as Marvel movies, and setting up future movies wouldn’t work in Star Wars post-credits scenes. Cross-trilogy stuff, like RotS setting up ANH or RotJ setting up TFA, especially doesn’t work because despite the marketing, every trilogy is an entirely atomized story.

I still think though some scenes like Rey going to Ahch-To could be moved to after the credits, or a more light-hearted post-credits scene could work in movies like ANH, RotJ, TPM, or TRoS, but not at all in the other ones obviously.

Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread

I mean, it’s fanediting. If you want it in your edit, put it in your edit. If you don’t want it in your edit, don’t put it in your edit. This is pretty personal, nobody here is beholden to anyone else’s ideas. If you think it justifies itself, that’s valid. If you’re uncomfortable with introducing the new aesthetic, that’s valid too.

There’s no need to prove anything one way or the other.

Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread

JakeRyan17 said:

Red Lightning would be introducing something different to what had been established before.

I think him sucking the life out of Rey and Ben is a good enough establishment for Red Lightning.

Also, part of the film’s plot revolves around Rey worrying that she is inherently evil. It matters that when she sees lighting directed at her, that it matches the Lightning she used.

This is a pretty good reason against the red lightning, although I have some grumbly things to say about it in and of itself.

StarkillerAG said:

JakeRyan17 said:

A lot of Luke’s motivations were solidified by the conversation where he uses Sidious’ name: and describes the plot of the prequels. Abrams did everything he could to ignore as much of the saga as he could. He remade A New Hope, gave some nostalgia, didn’t complete any character arcs, then four years later strings together something that references his movie and a scene from RotS. He prioritised looks over story at every turn, and the films are so shallow because of it. Johnson told a story, even if people didn’t like the story he told. There are layers and connections to evolving the saga as a whole.

Also, TFA isn’t a remake of ANH. I have no idea how that idea became so common.

100% agree. It’s the hill I’ll die on. Something I’d really love to do is make something like a Youtube video arguing my case, because Youtube videos are super easy to spread or digest.

Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread

JakeRyan17 said:

Or it’s just looking at basic storytelling. Things get set up, then paid off. If something is established one way for 8/9 films, a sudden change at the end of the last film will make people question it.

When it comes to powers, especially in a scene where under-developed powers are are already a major focus, adding another new and unestablished element will distract away from what’s going on. If sucking that much life out of them gave him so much more power that things have changed, why does he need them to kill him to get a new body? He’s beyond rejuvenated, what’s the point? This type of change gets in the way of storytelling.

And we can play the ageist game of “back in my day…” or whatever. That’s irrelevant. The purpose of the scene is that Palpatine gets rejuvenated. If he goes beyond rejuvenation to more powerful than before, his motives for the rest of the film no longer make sense. It’s always been implied Palpatine was stronger than he let on in other films, and he didn’t do the crazy antics like he does with the fleet, because he never needed to and it would go against his goals in those films.

I didn’t intend for my comment to be a “kids these days” comment, but even typing it I saw the similarities. And trust me, I was revolted at making an almost “kids these days” comment. Juvenoia sucks.

But I genuinely think moviemaking in the 2010s has changed, especially with fantasy stories, to appeal to this new audience of people who need to be spoon-fed every piece of information. And I genuinely think there’s been a transformation here because there’s tons of stuff that just goes unexplained in older movies that would never fly in today’s film industry. Hell, Force Lightning itself fits your definition of a new, unexplained element that changes the motivations of the villain in the third act of (what was meant to be) the final film. But audiences in 1983 used their brains and figured out what Palpatine was doing (summoning lightning) and why he was doing it (his goal isn’t just to kill Luke, but to make it hurt, although according to everything that’s come out after RotJ it might as well be his signature move or his stand or whatever).

I can easily imagine today’s audiences seeing this for the first time and saying something like “Oh, they just pulled a new superpower out of their asses as an excuse to give Vader the chance to kill Palpatine.” Hell, I’ve run into zoomers who say Empire is the most boringest one saying this about a bunch of stuff in the OT.

“They just invented the Force as a reason why Luke could blow up the Death Star!” (no seriously, someone said this to me and they weren’t joking)

I partially also blame the prequels and EU for ruining people’s perception of what the Force is. It’s not some hard magic like Harry Potter or Dragonball Z. When a character has a new “Force ability”, it’s not like they’re pulling some new power out of their ass. I’d really love to elaborate and go on a rant, seriously I’d love to, but it’s not that relevant.

I don’t mean to direct any of this at you. I’m not accusing you of any of this.

More relevant to your problems with it being unclear in particular, I don’t think it’s unclear. Red = danger, red lightning = more dangerous, or more powerful lightning.

Like I said before, you don’t need more of a reason to do it than it looking pretty, but it also reinforces the scene. We have supercharged Palpatine, and his lightning being red is supercharged lightning. Hammers it home.

thebluefrog said:

Brewzter said:

It’s instant-gratification social media in general. People have self-inflicted ADD and do not have the time to actually digest the latest media, they just want quick explanations and then forget about it 48 hours later. It’s why READING is becoming a problem in society as people can barely focus on a book, much less an article–notice how articles come with “5 min read / 10 min read” at the top nowadays?

Absolutely, people are completely losing any attention span. I’ve shown two different friends the saga for the first time recently and both of them couldn’t watch the movies for more than a couple minutes max without looking at their phones constantly.

They also don’t WANT to find details. Like, they’ll miss things and be confused, but can just ask someone to explain and boom, they’ve got their answer and lost interest.

Caring about the details is becoming a lost part of the artform.

Sometimes they’ll just fall asleep in the movie theater and then complain about something that was literally explained in the movie. Half the time they might as well have been looking right at the camera explaining it. You see this a lot in modern movie criticisms.

Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread

JakeRyan17 said:

I’m just saying that if the movie came out in theatres that way, it would be confusing. It’s something new and different, with no introduction or setup, being introduced at the last possible moment.

Personally not a fan because of that. I guess the approach I try to make with any edit, fan or for work, is thinking story first, then cool looks. Doing something because it looks cool, even though it makes no sense, is kinda what gave us the mess that is Rise of Skywalker to begin with.

I have no comment on whether today’s audiences would understand it. But I definitely think audiences of the 1980s would understand it. I think it’s kind of a shame that theaters today are so full with armchair critics who can’t think for themselves that audiences being confused at the lightning being red is a genuine possibility. It’s lightning, that’s red. Not that hard.

I feel like I’m coming off like an asshole here, and I don’t mean to direct this at you, but I really hate that discourse around movies is so dominated by stuff like this. Oh, XYZ wasn’t explained, oh ABC isn’t set up properly, oh LMNOP is unrealistic, when all of this stuff makes sense if people one, stayed awake for the entire duration of the movie, and two, turned on the shriveled husk of meat inside their skulls they call their “brain”.

I blame pop critics like Cracked and CinemaSins.

I don't think Revenge Of The Sith is as good as everyone says it is.

Rodney-2187 said:

NeverarGreat said:

Sure the movies all have flaws, but there’s gotta be a bounds of reason here, right? Why even have a discussion if AOTC or the 2003 Clone Wars movie is on the same level as SW or ESB?

StarkillerAG said:

Hey, the 2003 Clone Wars movie was great! 😉

But I agree that there are bounds of reason. The idea that all Star Wars movies are the same level of quality just doesn’t make any sense to me.

people are more forgiving of flaws in the movies they like, for whatever reason, but more critical of similar flaws in another they may not be a fan of, for whatever reason.

Everyone’s opinions on media are valid, but I fully believe that the reasons people give for it are usually dumb, and often not the real reason someone likes or dislikes something.

Like, for example, 90% of all plot holes that people talk about aren’t real. They’re often just something people bring up to make a critique of some media deeper than it otherwise would be.

The Rise Of Skywalker - Abrams' Vision or Executive Meddling?

Anakin Starkiller said:

Broom Kid said:

Don’t underestimate how many people loathed the direction that TLJ was going in

I’m sure it’s in the thousands, sure. Thousands can seem like a lot of people if you’re packed into a convention hall, or watching a minor league sporting event. But when you’re dealing with tens of MILLIONS of tickets sold, blu-rays bought, and streams counted, thousands aren’t a whole hell of a lot.

I have the impression the haters are something like a third of people. Just speaking anecdotally from conversations IRL, that seems about right.

I think 40% of Star Wars fans like all 9 episodes, 30% like the OT & PT (or, they may not like the prequels, but they much prefer the prequels to the sequels), and 30% like the OT and ST (or, they may not like the sequels, but they much prefer them to the prequels, although this group also tends not to like TRoS).

StarkillerAG said:

Hadrian sunrider said:

The toys have nothing to do with any of this. ALL toys have been seeing a decline in interest recently, not just Star Wars sequel-themed toys. The sequel haters who use toy sales to say “Kathleen is ruining Star Wars, get woke go broke” are clearly just grabbing at straws, especially when the movies themselves made so much money.

No you see, something something Walmart something something Legos screw you go woke go broke

There aren’t even toy sections in stores I go to anymore. Mobile gaming has totally replaced toys for kids these days, for better or for worse.