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#1270360
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Revenge of the Sith - Abridged
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For a while I’ve said that I believe the biggest issue with the latter two prequels, and to a smaller extent the Phantom Menace, is that there’s so much time spent not really doing anything. They take up so much time setting up plot points, laying down exposition, etc, when the originals and the sequels move almost all of that to the Opening Crawl, and make the few remaining scenes of pure exposition different, interesting, and creative in their own ways. It’s to the point where I’d say Revenge of the Sith doesn’t actually start until an ~1h15 into the movie, everything before it is setting up the actual plot for later.

I thought I’d make a fanedit to see if I can solve that problem. The movie now begins with Anakin finding Mace Windu trying to assassinate the Chancellor.

I think this turns the movie into a focused adventure about the overthrow of the Galactic Republic and the birth of the villain of Star Wars. A 38 minute story, about the length of a TV special (without credits) that covers the entire backstory of the Star Wars Trilogy.

The point of the prequels is to show how the Empire was born and how Vader came to be, and the point of this fanedit is to do this more efficiently. These are the only main plot lines, and plot lines from the original movie that only serve to facilitate them are not in this fanedit. General Grievous is not a character in this fanedit. Padmé is not pregnant, the children are already born. Anakin joins the Emperor for political reasons, not because he wants to prevent Padmé’s death.

GENERAL CHANGES:
-I have a new custom crawl made using Jack Pumpkinhead’s crawl creator. Thanks! The pan down was made by me from scratch (which is why it looks so bad) in Blender, and the music was replaced by the Shadows of the Empire opening music.
-The movie opens on Mace Windu already having Palpatine pinned down, Anakin entering the room.
-Mace Windu has a blue lightsaber. Not even because I take issue with a purple lightsaber, but because I think the new lightsaber color needs a proper introduction I can’t give.
-Anakin isn’t called Vader until he’s in the suit. I think it kinda makes him feel less solidified, it also makes it feel like the Jedi are just a religion or philosophy, and Anakin’s turn to the Dark Side is more of a political turn, not him leaving one Bureaucratic Order and joining another.
-The Order 66 sequence is cut out. Partially because I think it would be weird to show the battles of Utapau and Kashyyyk without them having been established earlier in the movie, partially because Obi-Wan has a much better introduction later, partially because I think it’s contradictory to the OT, and partially because I think the movie is better without it, making it look a lot more like a coup than the ultimate culmation of a massive plan.
-Obi-Wan is introduced when he leaves Utapau and calls Bale Organa about his troops ambushing him.
-Any references to the troops being clones are removed or altered. The opening crawl introduces the Clone Wars as an attack on the Republic by Dooku’s Clone Droid Army. Mostly because I think it makes the Republic firmly the good guys and the Separatists (and Dooku, and by extension the Sith and Palpatine) firmly the bad guys, and I think establishing them that way is kind of important given that besides Palpatine and Obi-Wan, you do not know these characters yet.
-Cringy dialogue and acting is cut down, but I tried to not be too much of a zealot about it.
-Dialogue and ideas that I felt kinda undermined the magic of the Jedi, etc, was cut wherever I could, though. The Jedi don’t have security cameras. Unfortunately though there’s some cases I don’t think could have been removed. Yoda still talks about special sessions of Congress.
-Yoda doesn’t use a lightsaber. He and Obi-Wan don’t fight clones on their way to the Temple, and he doesn’t fight Sidious.
-Additionally, because it would be weird if Yoda told Obi-Wan to kill Anakin, but he doesn’t fight the Emperor, he doesn’t. Obi-Wan looks for Anakin on his own.
-Obi Wan and Anakin’s fight is one continuous thing now that Yoda and Sidious don’t fight.
-The birth of the twins is cut out. They were already born before the movie started.
-The credits are cut out and replaced by a thank you to the OT.com community ❤️! I don’t think the original credits should have been put on this fanedit, because not enough of the movie is still there for enough people’s work to still be there for me to think the original credits are appropriate, but I don’t even know how I would begin making new credits. Besides, I kinda think credits are an outdated practice. Nobody watches them and you can put the credits online now, nobody is hurt by leaving credits out of the movie.


Bad news, though: The files were on my computer that completely died 2ish weeks ago. Good news, though: The hard drive, I’m 99% sure is completely fine and still usable, and I just got the stuff I need to get the files off of it today (2/19). I can potentially have this fanedit up tonight. In the (very small) chance that it isn’t recoverable, though, I’m happy to reconstruct it using an older backup. I’m going to do this either way, since I used the Blu Ray and for some reason I’d rather use Schormann’s HDTV preservation.

This is why there’s no pics (yet), though.


Preview Stuff:
Opening Logos, Crawl, and Scene (this video is kind of old, but the general ideas are the same)

Also, I have a question for you guys: My brother said I’m misusing Abridged here. I just mean shorter and to the point, he’s saying Abridged can only mean something like Dragon Ball Z Abridged, comedic. I know he’s dead wrong, but does the title give the wrong impression. Does it?

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#1262549
Topic
Is there any actual difference in picture quality between the MKV and AVCHD versions
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ChainsawAsh said:

Basically, if you don’t notice any difference between the “original” and “compressed” sides of this picture, then the AVCHD is probably plenty high quality for you. If you can tell the difference, then you’ll probably notice a quality bump with the MKV.

You also won’t have a comparison running through the whole movie. I can tell the difference, but I doubt I would while actually watching the movie, I only notice because the uncompressed image is right next to it.

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#1262541
Topic
Star Wars: The Ford Awakens (Han Lives Edit)
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Cameron Samurai said:

Because some of us aren’t interested in doing the whole sodding sequel trilogy and just want to make a done-in-one for the sheer fun of it? What’s your problem?

I was just thinking that the Force Awakens doesn’t really work except as the first movie in a series of movies, it literally ends on a cliffhanger.

Do whatever you want, though, it’s your fanedit. I just don’t think it works.

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#1261332
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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RogueLeader said:

ben_danger said:

Shroud of the Dark Side did this

While I personally don’t like the idea of inserting footage from other stuff (besides how Hal made Padmé survived), Shroud had a lot of cool ideas.

For me it’s really case-by-case. With how influenced by Blade Runner the prequels are, though, I would probably be cool with a lot of Blade Runner being put in the prequels.

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#1260846
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Smithers said:

I’m having trouble understanding the arguments to hide Anakin’s turn to preserve the twists, I think I’m missing something. My pint was to preserve the whole point of the PT, which is to show Anakin’s fall to the dark side, but the point was to hide the fact that anakin has any relation to Luke. In ANH, Obi-Wan talks about how darth vader was a pupil of his that turned to evil, so the audience (given the footage available) WOULD immediately know that anakin and darth vader are one in the same, but the audience doesn’t necessarily know that darth vader and luke’s father are one in the same. What we know from ANH is that luke’s father was a jedi and that darth vader killed him, so all we have to do is imply that Luke’s father died during the 20 year long jedi purge at the hands of vader. Am I missing something?

Return of the Jedi names Luke’s father as Anakin.

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#1259796
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THE STAR WARS PREQUEL TRILOGY: WATCHABLE EDITION--SUGGESTIONS WELCOME
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#BringOTBack said:

Ok. You’re Jar Jar Binks. I’ll make a constructed language called Gungen. Sample line: Meesa ko’wa fwesey gat barg (ENGLISH: I always repay a debt).
Words so far:
Swelet-Hello/Goodbye
Naw-No
Jey-Yes
Barg-Debt
Wheen-Look
Rak-Senator
Ko’wa-Always
Meesa-I
Fwesey-Repay
Sey-Pay

I’m gonna be honest with you, as someone who used to make constructed languages and was part of a conlang community, that’s already not looking very good, but it’s no worse than Huttese so it’s not like it would stick out.

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#1259263
Topic
Has anyone attempted to put Holdo in The Force Awakens so that her character doesn't feel shoehorned into The Last Jedi?
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OutboundFlight said:

RogueLeader said:

If Holdo has been Ackbar it wouldn’t have really worked. The whole point of Holdo is to be someone we don’t know and don’t trust, much like Poe, someone without an established relationship with the audience.

Interesting point, but I’d argue that suits Ackbar’s character perfectly.

From the films we don’t know much about Ackbar. He’s a talented strategist. But the moment the rebels realize the shields are still on, Ackbar immediately says “retreat”. It’s Lando who encourages them to keep fighting. Even the trap line signifies he doesn’t like to have the odds stacked against while on the offensive.

In fact, when we think of Ackbar we immediately go to the Battle of Endor. Like Poe immediately jumping to Holdo’s victory. Poe/audience has high expectations to see the leader in a commanding role, but is disappointed by their retreating. This lines up perfectly for Ackbar, who we all think is cool but know little about.

I imagine people would just hate on TLJ anyway with the claim “they ruined Ackbar”, but personally I think he’d be a better choice.

You can’t really emote or act much in that puppet, though, that’s why he and other Mon Calamari are relegated to background roles.

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#1256916
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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IlFanEditore said:

SparkySywer said:

LordZerome1080 said:

IlFanEditore said:

Someone asked about cutting down some Mustafar stuff.
I tried this, to remove the over the top fight parts from Obi Wan and Anakin’s duel. Just some different cut and a music track in the end. It doesn’t feel like SW, but I like it.
Of course it’s just a rough edit…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2gGk7Q0fWE&feature=youtu.be

It feels like SW and it is fantastic!! My only gripe is that the music covers the voices at the tail end of the Anakin duel.

I don’t mind the music that much, although it’s very not Star Wars, as others have pointed out. It’s better than the original fight IMO, but I was hoping there was a way to do it without reinserting the Yoda v Sidious fight.

It’s probably not possible to do it that way, though.

Maybe we could entirely cut that by showing Yoda on the asteroid meditating. With some montage it could look like he is mentally watching Obi wan and Anakin’s duel.

I actually like that idea. I might try that out.

ChainsawAsh said:

Frankly, I’d prefer to go the Hal 9000 route and not have Yoda ever confront the Emperor at all, but that’s me.

100% agree, they shouldn’t fight.

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#1256860
Topic
The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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LordZerome1080 said:

IlFanEditore said:

Someone asked about cutting down some Mustafar stuff.
I tried this, to remove the over the top fight parts from Obi Wan and Anakin’s duel. Just some different cut and a music track in the end. It doesn’t feel like SW, but I like it.
Of course it’s just a rough edit…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2gGk7Q0fWE&feature=youtu.be

It feels like SW and it is fantastic!! My only gripe is that the music covers the voices at the tail end of the Anakin duel.

I don’t mind the music that much, although it’s very not Star Wars, as others have pointed out. It’s better than the original fight IMO, but I was hoping there was a way to do it without reinserting the Yoda v Sidious fight.

It’s probably not possible to do it that way, though.