what I’m amazed about is how much this exploded, this is undoubtedly the most popular preservation project I’ve ever been involved with, I’ve been contacted on more than one website about it
Over the years there have been preservations of the tracks here and elsewhere. Some bit perfect and some not, but i don’t have them.
Wish they were on the 4K releases. The stereo mixes were left off.
And i also wonder how faithful the 7.1 audio is to the original 6 track mixes.
Its the reason i haven’t retired my laserdiscs and i dread when my player breaks.
Everything but VI is theatrical on laserdisc except for the tv extended star trek 1.
Treks 1-5 are very good digital LPCM.
For 6 one can simply just create a fan edit where the extra scenes are edited out because all that one did was just add scenes, no actual alternate takes were used like the 2003 version
Forewarned to those expecting the music segments to be matched quality with the HD audio, it was simply a case of “it’s all I have” and these are early captures so unfortunately for the first 2 seasons and a chunk of season 4 the quality is not the greatest in those scenes
Spaceman Doug, would love the 90210 original music info too.
Thank you.
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Both tracks for Spaceballs are affected
The original BD has the original stereo track so it’s worthy if you’re an audiophile
What’s the deal with The Godfather (and Part II) in regards to their theatrical sound mixes? I’ve noticed that my Region 2 Blu-ray of the Coppola Restoration contains the remastered audio track as the only option, but I’ve heard that the Region 1 releases include tracks of the theatrical audio. Any reason why the original audio tracks would be limited to the North America release only? Just curious.
FYI, there’s no such thing as Region 1 or 2 for Blu-ray disc. Region A and B is there instead, of course.
That’s actually a thing I’ve noticed in a lot of instances
US disks would include original mixes as a second option but their European counterparts would exclude them (Chinatown, Duel, The Omen, etc.), even though I’ve also noticed in Australian releases they would reflect the US disks
My guess is because they wanna save room for more foreign dubs because of the amount of different languages in that territory compared to the US and Australia where people primarily speak English
And btw as someone who owns the US disks of The Godfather, the mono tracks are indeed the authentic theatrical mixes and they’re region free so you could just as easily import them
The USA BD boxset for The GodFather has gone through a few different designs and the discs remain the same. I own one of the more current redesigns for the packaging of the USA boxset.
Those masters were also released on DVD so he’s possibly referring to the DVD set of those masters from Europe
Little Darlings I know was another
That’s incredible. I sent you a PM.
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It’s been done for over a year now after I located the remaining episodes
they’re replaced now evidently
What’s the deal with The Godfather (and Part II) in regards to their theatrical sound mixes? I’ve noticed that my Region 2 Blu-ray of the Coppola Restoration contains the remastered audio track as the only option, but I’ve heard that the Region 1 releases include tracks of the theatrical audio. Any reason why the original audio tracks would be limited to the North America release only? Just curious.
That’s actually a thing I’ve noticed in a lot of instances
US disks would include original mixes as a second option but their European counterparts would exclude them (Chinatown, Duel, The Omen, etc.), even though I’ve also noticed in Australian releases they would reflect the US disks
My guess is because they wanna save room for more foreign dubs because of the amount of different languages in that territory compared to the US and Australia where people primarily speak English
And btw as someone who owns the US disks of The Godfather, the mono tracks are indeed the authentic theatrical mixes and they’re region free so you could just as easily import them
I would love a PM for it, please. Never thought this would happen. Best I ever got were some SOAPNET recordings that were missing footage and didn’t have original music.
the SOAPnet versions are missing some small amounts of footage on occasion yes (mostly regarding all of the feature length episodes) but they do have the original music in full
Thank you. I was looking at my notes for what I have and it was simply the series name and saying it was episodes from SOAPnet, with bold capital letters (as a note to myself) saying they didn’t have the original music.
After reading your comment, I dug out my hard drive, started looking into it, and realized that I was conflating all the episodes from this set I had, consisting of copies from DVD, SOAPnet, FX Network, and a few other TVrips. Most of them lacked the original music, so I made that note to myself basically summing up that it’s pointless because I won’t bother watching the series if they’re not all containing the original televised music.
Good to know those SOAPnet copies have the original music.
SOAPnet and TVtropolis are the best sets of captures with the original music
The FX versions have it too but aren’t very good captures
I would love a PM for it, please. Never thought this would happen. Best I ever got were some SOAPNET recordings that were missing footage and didn’t have original music.
the SOAPnet versions are missing some small amounts of footage on occasion yes (mostly regarding all of the feature length episodes) but they do have the original music in full
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I gotta say this is undoubtedly the most popular project I’ve ever gotten involved in
HI DOUG,
I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN YOUR DIGITAL SET!
I DO HAVE THE SERIES WITH ORIGINAL MUSIC ON DVD AND EXCELLENT QUALITY, BUT IT DOES HAVE WATERMARKS FROM SOAP.
I WAS ABLE TO USE THE AUDIO AND RECREATE THE PILOT WITH ORIGINAL MUSIC ON FINAL CUT. WHEW LOTS OF TIME! 😃
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Also all of the other feature length episodes split into two parts on SOAPnet have been restored to their original format too (mainly thanks to the official DVDs having them that way minus the song changes)
Could I get a link to this too, please? Thanks!
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I gotta say this is undoubtedly the most popular project I’ve ever gotten involved in
HI DOUG,
I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN YOUR DIGITAL SET!
I DO HAVE THE SERIES WITH ORIGINAL MUSIC ON DVD AND EXCELLENT QUALITY, BUT IT DOES HAVE WATERMARKS FROM SOAP.
I WAS ABLE TO USE THE AUDIO AND RECREATE THE PILOT WITH ORIGINAL MUSIC ON FINAL CUT. WHEW LOTS OF TIME! 😃
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Also all of the other feature length episodes split into two parts on SOAPnet have been restored to their original format too (mainly thanks to the official DVDs having them that way minus the song changes)
it shouldn’t be surprising it’s open-matte cause it has a 1.85:1 aspect ratio, so with the exception of optical shots and the like, all prints in this ratio of any movie would be open-matte typically
What’s the progress so far?
it is cropped
I’ll PM you the audio track later
what’re you talking about?
The Mono found on the Kino Blu Ray is again a down mix of 5.1.
No it’s not, I actually have the proof that it’s the legitimate domestic theatrical mix, I can share my video if you want
That fool who made that comparison video (and refuses to take it down despite being proven wrong) didn’t realize he actually used the European mix which used the Australian dub but used several sound effects from the American mix (the American mix in addition to changing the dub also added many sound effects that weren’t in the Australian mix), essentially meaning the European mix is a hybrid between the domestic and American tracks
Does this mono mix have the original SFX?
Yes it does, but the “missing” sound effects that comparison video claims were there originally were part of the European mix (and not the original domestic mix) which was a hybrid between the Aussie and American mixes, I had to track down a 1985 Australian broadcast of the movie to prove this
The European track is not included on the 4K release
The Mono found on the Kino Blu Ray is again a down mix of 5.1.
No it’s not, I actually have the proof that it’s the legitimate domestic theatrical mix, I can share my video if you want
That fool who made that comparison video (and refuses to take it down despite being proven wrong) didn’t realize he actually used the European mix which used the Australian dub but used several sound effects from the American mix (the American mix in addition to changing the dub also added many sound effects that weren’t in the Australian mix), essentially meaning the European mix is a hybrid between the domestic and American tracks
The Australian track is the original audio and the American English is the dub, FYI.
I know, but I’m correcting the guy above who said Kino’s 4K release has the Aussie 5.1 downmix rather than the legitimate Aussie mono track, which it does have the original
It’s the European mix that utilizes the Aussie audio but adds various amounts of the sound effects from the American mix
I actually disagree on the theatrical blu-ray audio being bad, at least based off of what’s on HBO Max (which uses the same master)
To me it’s really good sounding and the “lack of surround” activity is due to it being a lot more faithful to the original mono track and doesn’t have the same gag sound effects as the 1997 DVD. I noticed hiss in it too which almost never happens in remixes of mono tracks and why it sounds so detailed
I compared it with the JP laserdisc mono audio I have and it sounds just as detailed to my ears. I didn’t notice a single instance of new sound effects either, unlike the 1997 and director’s cut mixes
The 1997 DVD however sounds awful, tons of noise reduction and the extra gag sound effects I mentioned, everything in it sounds murky
The Mono found on the Kino Blu Ray is again a down mix of 5.1.
No it’s not, I actually have the proof that it’s the legitimate domestic theatrical mix, I can share my video if you want
That fool who made that comparison video (and refuses to take it down despite being proven wrong) didn’t realize he actually used the European mix which used the Australian dub but used several sound effects from the American mix (the American mix in addition to changing the dub also added many sound effects that weren’t in the Australian mix), essentially meaning the European mix is a hybrid between the domestic and American tracks
The current BD is Ok but doesnt contain the right colors. Can i receive a link for this rework?
as is stated in the title of this thread it’s no longer available
I have yet another Back to the Future change
In part 2 the black screen that originally accompanied the scene when Marty got knocked out, on all post-2010 home video releases (which sadly means the 4K release too) it was shortened, it originally played for a good 5 seconds and the tail end of the music that plays during the next scene has been chopped off too as a direct result
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RyJSwxqiJvw
This is so bizarre considering it was intact on the 2001 DVD
Also on the 2010 blu-ray of the first, the credits were squished by 25% due to a mastering error, this was not an issue on the earlier DVD releases and fortunately was fixed on the 4K master and subsequent blu-ray