SpacemanDoug

when exactly is the release date?

you should never use a trailer as a reference to how a movie actually looked theatrically cause 9 times out of 10 the movie isn’t even completed yet when those teasers are made and not properly color timed yet

a lot insist on using trailers as reference but it’s never a good idea for that reason alone and just causes confusion

the 4K transfer itself as far as I know does match for the most part how the movie looked in theaters and it’s not tealed, it’s moreso a icy cold blue which is consistent with Burton’s other works

I am one of those apparently rare folks who prefers the MGM DVD track over the laserdisc

I’ve come to notice there is actually more high frequency detail on the DVD track compared to the LD track and it’s likely due to the DVD track being a direct transfer of the mono element compared to the LD which likely uses a higher generation element

The Star Wars Purist said:

I actually liked the 5.1 mixes of Vertigo and Psycho…

There’s two remixes for Vertigo

Are you talking about the DVD or BD remix?

Laservampire said:

SpacemanDoug said:

I do have a laserdisc rip if you want that too

I’d definitely be interested to hear it, someone on another forum sent me a copy of the laserdisc audio and while it’s more dynamic, it also sounds like it has some primitive noise reduction applied to it, lots of twittery mp3-like artifacts in it.

Might be the same rip

Laservampire said:

Okay, so the Turbine audio is basically a lossless copy of the 25th Anniversary DVD audio mastering, with the limited dynamics in it. Fades out slightly earlier and there’s a beep at the end.

But it does mux straight in with the 4K video from the UHD blu ray, no offset needed (well, with my UK copy at least)

So great to finally have the original mix with the original theatrical cut again, in wonderful quality. Thanks so much BenjaminG!

I do have a laserdisc rip if you want that too

Starbond9 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

Starbond9 said:

I would be interested as well!
Also in regards to a few pages ago, which color grading would be the “correct” one?

Wow I didn’t realize how fuck ugly the teal truly was till I saw a direct comparison

Its pretty grim

looks like there’s no “great” home video release of this movie despite how high profile it is, the 2005 DVD I guess is the most tolerable of them because at least it has none of the alterations the BD has

Starbond9 said:

I would be interested as well!
Also in regards to a few pages ago, which color grading would be the “correct” one?

Wow I didn’t realize how fuck ugly the teal truly was till I saw a direct comparison

InvisibleWolfMan said:

The theatrical release of The Warriors was released in Germany on bluray. You can find it from eBay or Amazon DE.

Lacks the mono track

OTRest said:

SpacemanDoug said:

The point of this thread is to try to acquire the episodes that were edited on DVD but not restored on streaming sites. If anyone has perhaps a syndicated recording that at least has the musical performances intact that would be lovely.

If you go sailing on the high seas, you can find “Taxi Season 1-5” that was shared in 2012. It includes the first 16 episodes of Season 4 as aired in syndication. The other episodes are all from the DVDs, however. I don’t know which episodes are missing music/edits. If you’re aware of such a list, sharing it would be much appreciated.

I remember going through a couple of season 4 episodes on streaming that were edited on DVD and I remember Vienna Waits had scene cut on DVD where two characters sing the Billy Joel song Vienna and then throughout the episode the song itself plays in the transition scenes, as I said earlier this was changed on DVD but it was uncut on streaming

Nina Loves Alex had a scene where Alex sings that was cut on DVD but restored on streaming

There were a few others I noticed but those are the ones I know off the top of my head

stwd4nder2 said:

Charles Threepio said:

Most releases of Iron Man, with the sole exception of the IMAX Enhanced version on Disney+, replace a photo of Iron Man on the front page of The Chronicle at the end because of a rather complicated lawsuit filed by a leaker over that photo.

I never knew about this. Kind of a crazy story, it’s weird that it’s on the new D+ version.

It’s not just the D+ version, it’s on ALL home video versions, the original photo is exclusive to the theatrical versions

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

On the old BD of Airplane!, there was a boom mic visible in two shots in the mirror during the scene whenever Kramer’s wife is talking to Paul in Kramer’s house that was (poorly) digitally removed, however oddly enough on the new 4K remastered BD, the boom mic was restored along with a small portion of the mirror frame that was accidentally erased on the old master as a result of the sloppy removal

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=83&y=53&d1=14736&d2=14733&s1=152852&s2=152814&l=0&i=12&go=1

but yet bizarrely enough on the same 4K master, the wires used to throw around the beating heart in a scene towards the beginning of the movie were digitally removed that were visible on the old master

Keeping the original BD release for the bonus features whenever I get around to getting the 4K remastered BD.

CloakedDragon97 said:

The Nightmare Before Christmas changed the original Touchstone logo to the modern Disney logo for the 3D release. The opening credits were also changed to reflect this.

My guess that only applies to the 3D BD, correct? None of the other discs?

unfortunately it applies to all post-2006 home video releases

The last two seasons of Taxi were bastardized when they were released on DVD with several episodes edited due to music rights issues either with songs replaced or scenes cut entirely of characters singing or performing something. Fortunately several of these edits were undone when the show came to streaming on Hulu and so people had the chance to see them uncut again. Unfortunately, similar to the original 90210, there are entire episodes missing as well (seasons 1-3 are affected by this as well but the DVD releases thankfully are uncut for those seasons) due to music rights, so as a result for some episodes that were edited on DVD, they didn’t get the chance to be seen uncut on streaming again.

The point of this thread is to try to acquire the episodes that were edited on DVD but not restored on streaming sites. If anyone has perhaps a syndicated recording that at least has the musical performances intact that would be lovely.

crissrudd4554 said:

I don’t own it but many have recommended the 2015 Blu-ray.

https://www.amazon.com/Terminator-Judgment-Day-Blu-ray-Digital/dp/B00UFMKSDW/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?crid=2AX2GAXM1RG43&keywords=terminator+2&qid=1642427254&sprefix=terminator+2%2Caps%2C82&sr=8-9

I am one of the people who also says the 2015 one is the “best” but it’s really saying something

Because compared to other fresher masters released by the same period it looks outdated and crusty, but the advantage is at least it’s the most textured and least tampered with compared to the 4K version

But it is quite clear it’s an older master prepared for either the early BD market or the late DVD market

I’m interested in this

Charles Threepio said:

It looks like the original theatrical version, though buried under fine print, is finally going to see a home video release this March.

Yep I heard about that, canceling this thread because of it

On the old BD of Airplane!, there was a boom mic visible in two shots in the mirror during the scene whenever Kramer’s wife is talking to Paul in Kramer’s house that was (poorly) digitally removed, however oddly enough on the new 4K remastered BD, the boom mic was restored along with a small portion of the mirror frame that was accidentally erased on the old master as a result of the sloppy removal

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=83&y=53&d1=14736&d2=14733&s1=152852&s2=152814&l=0&i=12&go=1

but yet bizarrely enough on the same 4K master, the wires used to throw around the beating heart in a scene towards the beginning of the movie were digitally removed that were visible on the old master

TheTrueSpottedfeather said:

Bates_Motel said:

I made the Theatrical edit using the current BD and the 1080p iTunes copy (which is a small file size, around 4.5 GB, but for now good enough quality to replace the comic book transitions). Turned out rather well.

I don’t suppose you still have it, do you ? I can’t find the theatrical version anywhere.

Amazon Prime has it on their service

Now this would be an interesting project

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=250124

TheBoogeyman1023 said:

Bumping this thread to see if anyone out there has a high quality HDTV broadcast of Season 3 Episode 23. This project will greatly benefit from the added quality.

Unfortunately I doubt any higher quality version of the broadcast recordings for the season 1-3 finales exist, knowing how TV capture standards were at the time (also how in general “HD” broadcasts were still so heavily compressed they look almost like SD)

However I would suggest replacing the DVD footage with the broadcast footage for seasons 1 and 2 because they lack the ugly EE the DVD masters have at least

One thing I do know is the 2017 version is preferable because it restores the missing Mufasa cloud in one scene that for some odd reason was taken out of the 2011 version

Could use the theatrical audio from the 2003 DVD version because AFAIK it has no changes whatsoever (mainly could be used to restore the original ambiance during the opening logo)

schnupp123 said:

nevermind then…

no I’m really curious, how would you know if your version isn’t altered?

Space Hunter M said:

Further observations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=512YgC0Iimw

I firmly believe the older edit is the theatrical one because of its presence in the Shochiku Home Video LD, a release known to be made with a theatrical element with stuff like cue marks and the MPAA card.

Wow this wouldn’t be the first time MGM had editing errors in a master of theirs

Just thinking of the missing frames and shots on the 1998 DVD of GBU

My guess is the BD has the music

how do you know your version isn’t altered though and the DVDs represent the original?

schnupp123 said:

not a digital alteration - but a massive change to the movie in “When Harry met Sally” when released for DVD:

they had to replace music and songs for licensing reasons - which changes the mood of the pivotal end scenes…

also the movie cuts to black for the end credits (instead of running the credits over the actors chatting away - they also cut out of the chatting pretty harshly and much earlier)

The only mention of this I could find anywhere:
https://www.npr.org/2012/01/03/144624329/the-big-bad-swap-the-problem-with-replaced-music

ah so I did some digging and it appears you misread, all physical home video versions are intact music wise (otherwise it would’ve been reported years ago most likely), it’s the digital versions that have the changed songs

which is still a shame either way