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#1399559
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Info: Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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Nicolas Cage said:

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#1397037
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Info: Which do you prefer - teamnegative1's 4k77/4k83 or Harmy's Despecialized?
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Honestly I prefer 4K77/4K83 over despecialized, the despecialized editions are a good effort but they’re clearly frankenstein edits and at times it really shows. They also use sources that are inherently sharpened and noise reduced.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572549090056077318/668026058318020628/Screenshot_364.png?fbclid=IwAR3sT6pGeLfND2qq_nONc7kgOEm1BYHsg0VLfsa5hgUSJsrG5NjUI5Furzk (despecialized)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572549090056077318/668026057399468042/Screenshot_363.png?fbclid=IwAR2081PORfgFOPMrFe9k9zifcdnT8KMrRGxe6jXo0OS5lneykgBKkepGw60 (4K83)

Notice how in this frame alone how Luke’s face looks extremely waxy on the despecialized edition but far more organic on 4K83.

While it is true that 4K77 has inconsistent quality and graininess in its presentation, you got to understand how this movie was shot and made. It didn’t have as fancy filmstock like Empire or Jedi did, and all of the effects and desert scenes didn’t help things either. A lot of the inconsistencies have to do with how the movie was shot rather than the print itself.

So once again, despecialized is a good effort but I think if you want the true versions as seen in theaters back in the 70s and 80s then 4K77/4K83 are more for you.

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#1396481
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The Terminator (1984) - Original Theatrical Mono Preservation (Released)
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I’m sure some of you have stated this before but I’ll go ahead and say it anyway

I highly doubt Cameron is the reason why the current BD editions exclude the mono track, from what it seems he really only cares about visuals and doesn’t care so much about audio, just to at least want his movies to sound good. He also seemingly allowed it to be included on the old DVD releases and never asked for a newer DVD master and not include it (the 2006 BD even uses the same master as the 2001 DVD and he didn’t seem to insist on leaving off the mono track)

I suspect it’s most likely MGM’s laziness is the reason why the mono track isn’t restored considering this isn’t the first time an earlier DVD release of theirs had a mono track and the subsequent blu-ray edition of the same title excluded it in favor of a 5.1 track (just look at Red Dawn and In the Heat of the Night (pre-Criterion) to name a couple of examples)

If Arrow is working on a 4K of this movie it would most likely include the mono track

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#1391202
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Help Wanted: 'My Name is Earl' - uncut episodes w/original music
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Idk sadly about that last part

It actually depends on what platform as well, season 3 had four hour long episodes and they’re preserved that way on DVD and Prime, but Hulu has all four of them in their two part versions

Along with that the last two episodes from season 2 on Hulu are the syndicated edits and Prime/DVD have both episodes uncut

Really the only episode I know of that’s in two parts everywhere is South of the Border from season 2, other than the original NBC broadcast the only way to have the uncut version is on DVD, and that has a few song changes

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#1391041
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Info: Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3QSVzSXeos

ok here you go, I didn’t have the video finished yet

the sound of the shotgun falling to the ground, Max falling on the car, and the bird wing noises are all not in this version, which is a recording of an Australian broadcast from 1985

meaning they were never in the Aussie track to begin with, they were first added to the US dub, the region 2 DVD has an altered mono track and the Kino release is correct

with the exception of putting the clips together, I didn’t touch the recording at all (I even left in the PAL speed up), the first clip is to showcase it’s from a broadcast (yes the Superman theme was always there, it was added by the channel who aired this) and the last clip at the end is to show that it does in fact have the Aussie dialogue

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#1391002
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Info: Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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The recent 4K release of Mad Max restores the proper Aussie mono mix

The comparison video floating around is misleading, the sound effects that it claims are missing were never there to begin with

They were added for the US dub originally, the European DVD is a weird hybrid that utilizes the Aussie dialogue but uses a few of the US mix sound effects

If anyone doesn’t believe me I actually have proof about this

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#1390359
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Info: The films of Sergio Leone - The best available versions...
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The Mondo transfer uses the same 4K master but it’s unfaithful to the original prints and looks too purple, the MGM BD from 2014 tries but fails to replicate the original theatrical color timing (which was extremely yellow) and instead looks more brownish than anything, Kino’s dials back the yellow but as a result what looks like a blue tint covers a lot of the picture and affects the black levels

Between these three though I’d say the Kino one is the best since it also has the original mono track and something at least close to the theatrical version