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But that’s so fitting!
But that’s so fitting!
Hello again peoples
Wanted to drop another video here and see about getting some feedback particularly with the dialogue. Again, I’m using my voice only temporarily, so, aside from not liking my vocal performance, does the dialogue itself work?
Main things I’ve done with this clip:
Altered the music to change the atmosphere of the scene. I’m not completely sold on the soundtracks I’m using BUT it gives the “feeling” I want to convey. I don’t think any of the pieces I’m using are in the same key and I just don’t know enough about music to know if it’s really a problem or not.
Created a shot of Padme not knowing how to respond to what Dorme says. Padmes “then my jedi protector will have to prove how good he is” isn’t particularly bad imo but I couldn’t find another way to cut around the little Obi/Anakin exchange without removing this line.
Cut Obi-Wans berating Anakin about doing anything without consulting him or the council. In this edit, Obi does teach Anakin…but less Master/Student and more like an older wiser guy showing a younger guy the ropes, if you will.
Anakin hears a noise and looks up thinking it could be trouble. I’d like feedback on this too. I’ve liked this idea for a long time but hadn’t implemented it until now. I’d like to know if you think it works…if it adds anything to the scene.
This is where it gets a bit iffy:
-“what are you thinking about?”
-“this is my first assignment on my own…thought you should know.”
Does this exchange work? or what if I cut Padmes line altogether? they walk along in silence for a few seconds then Anakin just blurts out his lines?
-“did you hear what they said about us?”
-“yeah”
-both laugh
Did this exchange make sense? Did you find yourself following along?
I could revert his dialogue back to “don’t worry, we have R2 with us” and that would work well with the new R2 shot I’ve added.
You guys are my Brian Trust. What do ya think?
Hey thanks so much for the info!
I had just recently seen a YouTube video with someone eliminating certain frequencies specifically for processing vocals and it hadn’t even dawned on me to try that for my purposes. I’ll definitely be testing out both methods. Thanks!
danieldubb, could you give me some advice or pointers? In my edit I’m working on, i need to be able to remove as much original music from the film as possible in order to rescore. Especially in action scenes. I can do a certain amount of rebuiling of the sfx but i was hoping to retain as much of the original sfx as possible. I’ve played around with multiband compressers and limiters (in davinci resolve) with a bit of luck but i dont really know what I’m doing. Any advice on how to go about this? Any helpful youtube videos you may know of?
I’m back with another clip, folks!
This time I’m tackling the kiss scene. This will give all of you a better idea of how drastic I want to “adjust” this movie. So, a few things going on in this clip:
I take advantage every time Anakins mouth is obscured by something or someone to add and/or change his dialogue.
removed “across the stars” music and replaced it with a lighter “anakins theme” from TPM which fits the mood better imo
I thought it might be fun but also wise to add R2 into this scene. Just to maybe reduce the question of ‘why are they NOW safe from bounty hunters?’. Without explicitly saying it, one could now reason that R2 is continuing to use his scanners for any sort of activity. And now, there’s a fun little bit where he turns away as they kiss. These shots of R2 are not yet finished. In fact, if anyone can think of a better shot of R2 to use, please let me know! This shot is not ideal because it’s so short.
I’ve repurposed Padme’s dialogue from TPM and placed it here to tease Anakin
the kiss itself is reworked to have a bit more passion from both characters…as if they’ve both wanted to do this for quite a while
there’s no abrupt ending to the kiss. no “I shouldn’t have done that” from Padme. They both enjoyed it, both feeling slightly awkward afterwards, Anakin cracks a joke to lighten the tension.
At this point, I’m slowly moving forward with my edit. This is the most “complete” scene so far but I would definitely appreciate feedback. Is there anything that isn’t working? Anything throw you off?
Well, it’s been a while, hasn’t it?
I can’t necessarily say that my edit is back on track…but I have started messing around with footage again. I’m currently using the free version of Davinci Resolve. The nodes in Fusion are still throwing me for a loop…but I’ve learned a bit. 😄
It’s really the color grading tab that got me interested in taking another whack at this edit. There’s a lot you can do within it.
I’m still playing around with this scene but as you’ll see, the main idea was to remove Obi-wan’s dialogue that spells everything out for the audience…as well as his pisssed off-ness towards Anakin.
The music is temporary also…but it does add a little tension/uncertainty which is welcome.
Aaand a focus pull shot by snooker! (this was done…like a year or two ago)
I was trying to edit this in 5.1 (and indeed this clip is in 5.1…although you won’t be able to tell cuz youtube) but man…with all the changes I have planned I think it’ll be too much of a headache.
P.S. I’ve reuploaded quite a few of my videos…still gettin’ around to the rest of 'em.
A little late for the 40th anniversary but still awesome:
https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/video/rare-exclusive-scenes-empire-strikes-back-74735668
Extended/alternate scenes and bloopers I’ve never seen before!
YES! Welcome back!
Gremlins 2
Is this for real?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo3KAQY9wLY
JEDIT: Had I looked for just another split second, I would’ve realized it is not.
I wish I could pull a shot off like this! Looking good!
You’re back??? Yeah!!!
Nice clip! I actually had another idea for this scene I’ve been sitting on for a while:
Maybe with a different piece of music, it could be played less seriously. Play up the absurdity of the situation.
No kiss here…save it for the end.
I’m glad you’ve got a working computer again!
If any of the current rumors are true (KK out, Favreau in, retconning the ST, etc.) does anyone think we might get an OOT release? IF Disney is actually taking this seriously and is wanting to appease some of the angry fanbase, I think that would go a looong way. Just call Mike Verta and ask him to finish up his restoration. 😄
What is this model of? It kinda looks like lava running out the side of a mountain???
Is that a Strong Bad reference?
Wonderful! Absolutely wonderful!
I wholeheartedly agree with Chase!
Yeah I also put a rough mask around him so everything else has the original frame rate.
I’ve seen a few tests similar to this before. I threw this together really quick:
Dex wouldn’t be in my hypothetical edit, but it’s an idea of playing with the not-so-great CGI characters in this movie. Go retro effects! 😛
in two days part 2 finished …
five shots and finish 😃https://vimeo.com/412387620
password:jedi
Damn! I don’t mind admitting that I got chills and had tears forming from watching this!
Love it, snooker!
Here’s an update to the ending bits I’ve been playing with. Maybe these can work individually or be inspiration for other ideas.
https://vimeo.com/414395138
pw: faneditI further tweaked the “just Rey” line, and added a more pronounced “t”.
I also added an updated version of the new end shot I’ve been messing with, which removes Rey and BB-8, instead having the falcon fly off into the binary sunset.
Finally, I tacked on the YouTube clip posted a few pages back that added Ben and Anakin force ghosts. I cropped out Anakin so you could see what the idea would look like. Not crazy about the head nod, but I think the idea of adding Ben will work.
Lookin’ really good! I like the idea of the falcon being the last shot…at the same time…
Has anyone considered Rey riding around in Lukes xwing instead? Obviously, that’s more work for someone with fx skills but it might satisfy those who are saying “the falcon belongs to Chewy!”.
Looks fantastic!
The behind the scenes drama at lucasfilm would make for an interesting film.
Did you see the doc “Waking Sleeping Beauty”? That is all about the BTS at Disney animation during the early 90s. An incredibly interesting watch. I’m surprised it was ever released.
Maybe in twenty years or so we’ll get something similar from Lucasfilm.
Sounds good! I’m in the early stages of learning Davinci Resolve. The whole node thing threw me off completely at first, but thank god for YouTube ;P
I don’t recall if this article was posted here in the forums, but the cinematographer for Knives Out (also TLJ) had some interesting things to say about film vs digital:
https://www.polygon.com/2020/2/6/21125680/film-vs-digital-debate-movies-cinematography
While I can’t agree with him 100%, I thought there could be some useful information here that might actually help with getting the prequels to looking like film. Granted, most of this goes over my head…so I don’t know if it will actually be of any benefit to you. Still, an interesting read.