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- <strong>Return Of The Jedi</strong> - a general <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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Ah. Very good. Thanks
Ah. Very good. Thanks
I am still surprised when people are bringing up Kurtz when it comes to ROTJ. He was fired and replaced by Kazanjian in the middle of ESB principal photography. He basically had nothing to do with ROTJ, let alone being aware of any details such as Kasdan’s and Ford’s suggestion to kill off Han.
Actually, I didn’t know this. Are you sure? I’ve seen BTS footage of Kurtz in the editing and/or scoring sessions, which I would assume would’ve post-production.
EDIT:
There…I had to go find it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyc82C3yc0s
jonh, you’re doing an amazing job!
Now, for someone who hasn’t chimed in until now:
You might want to look at altering Luke walking. He wavers left and right quite a bit…so much so that he distracts me every time I watch the clip. I don’t have time to notice the other Jedi in that shot. Granted, they each get a closeup, but maybe keep him from moving too much??
Maybe it’s just me. What do you guys think?
So far I’m only 2 hours in…I think it’s quite worth it! 😄

‘Drunk Star Wars Script Recital - Episode 1: The Phantom Menace’:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq2XuNqQEVU&t=7077s - at the Bruce Greene youtube channel. (4 hours, 40 mins)
https://vimeo.com/412387620
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This. Is. F*cking. Awesome.
Thanks! 😄
But even still, I would change it to something else today. It’s funny, but it’s not in line with 3PO’s character. He may at times not understand human behavior, but he’s not stupid. 😛
Also my other ROTJ ideas from long ago:
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I would be curious to here some people’s issues with ROTJ. I know this has been discussed pretty thoroughly countless times. I have a feeling as more prequel kids have grown up and are now more active on this site, perhaps there might be more people who like these aspects of ROTJ. But I still think it would be worth playing around with a ROTJ edit that tries to address these major complaints, as if the original trilogy was the only Star Wars that we ever got.
I could spend A LOT of time talking about my issues with this film. 😉
Aside from the points that get brought up a lot, one thing I would look at is playing around with the pacing of scenes on Endor. You can play up the fact that Leia is missing for a bit (after the chase). Cut down certain shots to remove goofy expressions. Change the music to insert some tension. This was something I made a long time ago but I still like the ideas behind some of the changes I made (even if most of them are poorly executed…or I would continue to developed further):
(and besides, I still haven’t finished training my Fake Wedge DeepFake model…).
THAT is something I’ve been waiting to see! 😁
One of my dream edits has always been to move Obi-Wan and Luke’s conversation to his hut on Tatooine.
I’m going to really try and work out a Reverse-ANH structure for ROTJ
Hell yeah!
I just thought this was interesting to think about: In this shot, Liam Neeson had to act as if he somehow quickly hooked his lightsaber onto his belt…when, in reality, he just dropped it onto the ground. 😛
OK, an actual “small detail” I never noticed until a week or two ago (also involving Liam Neeson):
You’ll need to go frame by frame to see it. As he whips his lightsaber out, his robes move in such a way as to indicate that Liam had the entire thing, blade and all, underneath his robes.
Ok so this might be a dumb question, but is there any possible way to enhance the audio from ANH using AI. The dialogue for much of the film sounds like its coming out of a tin can. Particularly during the floating droid training scene when Luke says “You mean it controls your actions?”. I don’t know, it’s just always really bothered me.
I mean is this what this program can be used for? Or just music removal?
I don’t really think it’s used for that. Other than additional EQ-ing I don’t know what can be done for the dialogue in ANH…it’s driven me nuts for years. I’m NOT an expert but, I mean, couldn’t they at least bring it up to ESB quality?
This is promising! How about Windu’s “You’re under arrest, Chancellor”?
I attempted it as well…but woah that’s the closest one I’ve heard yet.
That…might just work.
I just wanted to echo what everyone else has said. This definitely sucks, Adywan.
I also wanted to say I loved hearing the disco music along side the clips…it took me back to the early days of your edit! 😃
These clips are looking sweet! I haven’t seen any edit where the jump cuts look this seamless! So good!
And yeah, the new Falcon reveal looks fantastic!
Eh. I don’t know. For me the most questionable thing in the shot is how the gas giant behind the X-Wings looks like it’s made of play-doh.
Yeah, that has bugged me for years. It’s almost neon orange.
Geez. Lovely.
I’ve skimmed through a few recent videos from Mike Zeroh’s YouTube channel…where is he getting all this info? Stuff like a JJ cut of TROS in a few years. I dont see or hear any scorces…?
I feel like I know the answer to my own question…
But, and I’m a little reluctant to ask, shouldn’t we expect to see some gungans around this Resistance base on Naboo? Or maybe just one somewhere?
Actually, throwing one or two in the background of the base could work fine. Or what about those duck-horse things they ride?
OMG!!!
Yes. That’ll do.
And I agree with Lesser about the ducks. Plus, adding in the sounds they make will absolutely sell it!
Well, I’m flattered! 😃
This time around I’ve actually kept all my files! You could’ve just asked! 😄
These TROS shots look great! Although, I could barely see the Theed palace…any way to make it bigger? Or/and, as others have suggested, add some of those head statue thingys from the gungans “sacred place” to other shots?
This post has given me the brilliant idea of adding the sound of a vacuum cleaner to the end scene in the council chamber, thus explaining the absence of seats.
That’s an interesting thing that I’ve never heard anyone address. Is it because those Jedi who held those seats died at Geonosis? Obviously Spanky McCone-Head survived…but that wasn’t for sure until ROTS.
The blood flows back into his head.
Exactly 😉
Make the Tusken Raiders kill Luke in ANH, then have Ben Kenobi force-heal him back to life.
Ha!..you actually could add blood to Lukes head and when Ben removes his hand the blood is gone…