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A few thoughts after watching JEDI NO MORE

I just wanna say up front: I appreciate any edit that really tries to push itself in terms of new ideas and restructuring of the movie.

One of the main things that intrigued me about this edit was the restructuring. I had heard the idea of putting Geonosis at the beginning of the movie before but didn’t know if there was a edit out there that was successful at achieving it.
Was the edit successful in doing so?
I think it’ll work for some. Sadly, it didn’t for me. I guess I would say there’s not enough connective tissue from scene to scene to make the build up work. Maybe I just know the material so well I can’t separate it…I don’t know…
However, Obi-Wans intro scene is him talking to R4 about the unusual concentration of trade federation ships there are. Anakin and Padmes first scene is their little “columns of steam” talk as they fly down to Geonosis. These are not strong introductions for our main characters. For me, that just doesn’t work.

With all of that being said, there were things I did like. Including but not limited to:

-repurposing shots of the geonosians to now spy on Obi-Wan.
-new dialogue for Obi-Wan message to the Jedi
-Anakin saves Padme in the droid factory instead of R2
-altered dialogue for certain scenes such as the Obi/Mace/Yoda walking down the overtly CGI Jedi hallways scene (lipsync isn’t quite there but still fun)
-I like Anakin at the senate hearing
-I like the additional senate scene with Jar Jar using footage from TPM, AOTC+deleted scene
-analysis droid deleted scene on Kamino with new dialogue
-Anakin becomes a Jedi Knight

I know a lot of thought and work went into this edit. It shows. I appreciate that.
And maybe I’m the only one who doesn’t care for the restructured bits.
Everyone else should check it out!

JEDDIT: i like some of these ideas i may just borrow one or two of them. 😉

It would be great if some of snookers ideas could come to fruition…

Return of the Jedi:

https://streamable.com/40modd

I would love to check this out! Sounds like some really interesting changes!

Yeah, it IS my thread, isn’t it? 😄 Thanks DMC.

Yeah, i definitely check the site several times a day too!

I’m curious: does anyone know if there’s an edit of AOTC that removes the nightclub scene?
That’s what I’ve done here:

https://youtu.be/dlduEb1Qj0Y

I just wanna say: I love originaltrilogy.com
I’ve been a member since 2006!

I check in on several threads but I’m just not actively posting.
When compared to every other thread, my posts are never lengthy. I prefer posting my thoughts in video form as opposed to taking the time to write it all out. I’ve always struggled with putting words to my thought process anyways.
I just feel kinda funny bumping my thread every time I release another youtube video. As you can tell by my channel, I’ve been releasing more videos…trying to grow the channel.
Is it annoying when I post here? I try to keep it to a minimum…
Well, either way, thanks to everyone who checks in on this thread!
I just felt I needed to address some of these thoughts I’ve had here.
Thanks again!

These are all quite fun to watch!

Very nice! This sort of visual manipulation still fascinates me. Did you use EbSynth? Or something like the puppet tool in AE?

Now, just change her hair and clothes and all will be good! 😆

Oh interesting! That’s not something I anticipated- well, obviously I didn’t, or I would’ve addressed it! 😉

Unfortunately, I can’t really extend the shot of Padme and Typho…the traffic in the background wouldn’t end up looking right.

However, I did originally wonder about Jar Jar’s subtitles getting in the way of the scene. I’m now wondering if I recorded Jar Jar speaking the lines in English (and removed the subtitles) if that would take away the confusion…?
And, heck, I may attempt putting a shot of Zam back in…if I can make it work to my taste. 😉

Thank you so much for the feedback!

CaptainFaraday said:

Change Greedo’s subtitles to state that he’s a good guy and he and Han are actually friends. Trim shots of Han unholstering his gun and shooting, but add new insert shot of a drink getting knocked over. After Han throws some coins to Wuher and says “Sorry about the mess,” dub in a new Greedo line and subtitle saying “Thank you for covering that Han, I owe you for next time.”

Oh my god, I want to see this! LOL

Here’s something I’ve wanted to attempt for a long time.
It’s unfinished, but that’s because I was hoping for feedback before continuing work on it.

https://youtu.be/dJHtHNGl6_o

I’m offended by this thread.

😉

Grand Master_ Luke Flywalker said:

RogueLeader said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

I remember years ago someone mocking up a hologram of Grievous in AotC, I think in place of Death Star. The concept was pretty lame, tbh, but the execution was good iirc, effects-wise.

This was actually my concept. Haha.

I recall someone coming on the forum not long after I started getting involved here, around summer 2015, offering to do some effects work, and it was just a suggestion I through out there. Thought it would be a fun way to set up Grievous, since the Death Star doesn’t really play a role in ROTS besides on of the final shots of the film.

Looking back now, I’d rather keep the Death Star, but give the graphics that classic look with the dish at the equator.

Could you send me that clip?

Yeah, I’d love to see it too!

I’m shocked at what a difference that makes! Nicely done!

Thanks, DMC! I’m blushing! 😃

Thanks for the kind words everyone- even though the edit is a mess! 😄

I hadn’t touched this edit in months.
Didn’t wanna see it ever again.
Was just sick of it.
Then the other day…

https://youtu.be/M804B7y8ODU

And, hell, since I’m advertising, in case you missed my video “$6000 Star Wars Cantina Scene?!!”:

https://youtu.be/SmUNtVYwbgY

This sounds great! Could I also get a link, please?

Yes, I’m GIFTING you another video! Sing along, everybody!

https://youtu.be/oiUEqAy29Qc

Happy Holidays, everyone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ziQ_Eh3wbY

Neerb said:

JackNapier said:

David S Pumpkins.

J.J. Abrams being interviewed while making TFA:

“Is Snoke like a Sith? What is he?”
“His own thing!”
“And the Knights of Ren are…?”
“Part of it!”

I. Love. That.

I thought I’d post a link to my new dumb (but topical) video.

https://youtu.be/SmUNtVYwbgY

For those that would like a link, I have a WIP version uploaded now!

PM me! 😄

Chase Adams said:

Minor bump… Just realised I had forgotten to mention this earlier in regards to your Palpatine’s office video, but I do really enjoy getting to hear fan-editors break down problematic scenes and explain their reasons for changes etc… I dunno, I guess especially with the prequels, learning someone else’s take on things that don’t work and how to address it really helps me approach my own attempts to edit with a different mindset.

So by all means, if you’re planning on doing more videos like this, I’d very much be interested! 😉

Probably part of the reason I’ve always been a sucker for the behind the scenes content of films more so than the actual film is just because I love learning about the hidden creative process and mentality behind things that isn’t always so obvious onscreen.

Your commentary on how you felt watching all of this unfold in cinemas is great as well! 😄

I’ve always loved reading members of this site’s stories about experiencing the prequels for the first time and I still continue to get a laugh out of it. 😆

I totally forgot to respond to this! Thank you so much for the kind words Chase Adams! I certainly enjoyed making the Palpatines Office video because I did finally get to put some thoughts out there that I’d had for years! I’m glad it has been of at least some benefit to you!
I am considering doing some sort of commentary track for the workprint…so I can put more of my thoughts out there as well as explain some of my unfinished ideas you’ll end up seeing. 😉

Hey everyone

Just droppin’ a link for a fun little thing I whipped up these last couple of days:
https://youtu.be/OK9zXs7qMJI

ALSO, the news you didn’t want to hear (but might’ve began to wonder about):
I’ve pretty much given up on finishing my edit. I think I started this project with delusions of grandeur. There are certain things I’ve wanted to pull off and I just haven’t come up with decent solutions. I just don’t have the patience to do all the things I want to, nor the experience-…nor the software.

I do intent to finish a workprint because I don’t want to disappoint those who have looked forward to it. But I want to warn you, you will find sections of it disappointing because I just haven’t completed a lot of the things I started.

What a fun way to end a message! 😛

You got it!
Well, you will once it’s done 😉

@Chase Adams, I still appreciate your comments!

Thank you for the kind words, everyone! I really truly appreciate it!

ben_danger said:

I always wondered if Anakin would have been a stronger character if he just spoke LESS in AOTC, that shot pretty much nails that!

Yeah, I would say he speaks quite a bit less in my version. There are just too many angry/hateful/whiney comments. Wherever I can, I’ve tried to rework the dialogue…but a lot of the time his face says “I’m pissed” so it has to be cut.

DMC said:

The cut after Mace says “we’re keepers of the peace, not soldiers” I found a tiny bit jarring for some reason. Maybe have the hologram noise start a sec before the cut? Just an idea.

Thank you for this. I wondered about that instance myself. I tried out your suggestion and, yep, I think that did the trick! Thanks for the idea!

By the way, I’m working my way towards a VERY rough workprint. I believe EVERY scene in the film has been reworked to some degree. There will also be some half-baked ideas left in…incomplete scenes/visual fx/sound fx/music…scenes that are almost like an animatic. Why? Well, I’m hoping for specific feedback- … I don’t want to invest all my time and energy into some of these scenes if it’s not working properly. It’ll still be a hot second before it’s ready but it’s getting there! 😉
As long as everyone’s ok with it, I’m gonna include everyone who’s commented here in the thread in the credits.