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#367950
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Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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vaderios said:
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

 I'm still not ruling out that Adywan might restructure ROTJ:R...he simply stated that there won't be 'story changes'. Restructuring scenes doesn't have to mean changes to the story. In ANH:R Adywan restructured the Obi wans Hut scene...that didn't change the story.    ...I'm just saying...   :D

Where have you been? We need you Right now!

I want to see your videos/mockups in action!

Make it happened :)

 

-Angel

 

 

 Hey I just gave you Human Cyborg Relations!  ;)

You mean something from ROTJ? Yeah, I gotta get on that!

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#367936
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Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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adywan said:

Ok i have to put an end to this. I though all this would have died out ages ago.

Your so gullible. lol. Killing Lando was never going to be part of my edit, but was being considered as a special feature only. Only the PT will be getting ripped apart. There will be some changes in jedi but none will be drastic in a way that will change the story. Yes there will be a new ending but that's being kept a secret. The Lando thing came about because so many people kept asking about the ending so i made one up.

Don't hate me :)

 

 I'm still not ruling out that Adywan might restructure ROTJ:R...he simply stated that there won't be 'story changes'. Restructuring scenes doesn't have to mean changes to the story. In ANH:R Adywan restructured the Obi wans Hut scene...that didn't change the story.    ...I'm just saying...   :D

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#367526
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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skyjedi2005 said:

Are yoiu by any chance using the deleted scene in the arena in attack of the clones not on the dvd?

Very low quality.  No foley work, almost like an animatic.  Sam Jacksons on set dialogue trying to sound exerted by the combat and such was a bit much imho.  But they probably would have done adr if they used the scene.

I'm surprised there are not more home brew attempts at using the deleted scenes and finishing the audio, music and making added cgi.

 

 Well, that deleted arena scene from hyperspace/starwars.com is (i'm pretty sure) not usable. There was never a high quality version released...?

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#367515
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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ben_danger said:

i think ive mentioned this before, but id love to see someone construct a musicless TPM lightsaber battle, like in ESB, where the music is created by the hum of the sabers. perhaps some score could bleed through eventually, but nothing with vocals (duel of the fates was awesome, but the vocals wernt star warsy for me)

 

 This would be VERY interesting! I'm working on various things...but if noone gets to it soon I might try attempting a rough version sometime...

BTW, ben, I'm still slowly working on the arena battle in AOTC...you?

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#367361
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Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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vaderios said:
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

 Looks like a job for Angel! :D

Also I think that by the end of this scene the sun should be coming up in the background...or simply getting brighter...

Im here! Where is the problem Citizen?

When is the sun shot you referring?

I have to go  now! The people of earth needs me!

 

-Superangel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL

Look at the scene where Luke turns himself over to Vader on that brigde thingy. You can't see much out the window except for a couple of tree and the ATATs head which seems to be turned at an odd angle...

Also I was just thinking it would look cool if by the end of this scene the sun was coming up in the background since the next scene the sun has *just* come up...

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#367359
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Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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Monroville said:



Um, shouldn't that AT-AT head be pointing AWAY from us, being that Luke is coming out of the AT-AT's body?  For some reason, it makes me think the AT-AT is alive and its straining its head so it can see what's going on behind it...

 

 Looks like a job for Angel! :D

Also I think that by the end of this scene the sun should be coming up in the background...or simply getting brighter...

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#367264
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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vaderios said:

I just found some interesting artwork from Ryan Church ( Concept artist for Eps 2 and 3)

I ve noticed something interesting. His first concepts of some spots or locations had that Star wars feeling. Not very busy minimalistic and with a retro palette.

Its good start to brainstorm, how similar or unused designs, can bring PT to OT feel. When the planets have that unknown mood and locations were simple, memorable and powerful!

Some examples that cause my attetion.

 

Utapau's landed battleship. ( note the sun, the pale colors and the shadows and no fancy lights)

The 10th level of utapau (note the minimalism the pale colors the retro background details and the mood)

The bridge of Invisible hand( Same design with the above different approach. Note duo tone, sub lighted no much controls and panels.)

Mustafar Separatists room( note the one color theme, the claustrophobic feeling without the window/revealing all way, scale)

Big Credit to Ryan Church and his Superb work!

 

-Angel

 

This is great stuff...this DOES have the OT feeling (not as much in the last pic)...

Angel, you should tackle some pics from the PT and see if you can simpilfy some of the crazy backgrounds, etc...just like the above pics!

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#367059
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Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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Bingowings said:

It might be possible to digitally remove the offending elements (either puppet or CGI) Angel has managed it on some mockups and I manage to do it on a few too (it's no easy task).

If that fails building models and set segments are possibly the only other way.

Clearing the slate is one thing but then you have to decide on what to replace the elements with, my preference is more dancers like Oola and possibly a few more courtiers.

 

 It will definantly be interesting to see what Adywan does with this scene. I can't imagine that he likes it the way it is.

Yes, you might be able to remove some objects from the film...but what do you add and how?

It's been a while but I think the original Sy Snoodles with new facial/body movments could work better than the CGI Sy that we have now.

I *think* I like the idea of the burlesque show thing...it definantly depends on how it's handled...

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#366931
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Docta Nick said:
vaderios said:
Bingowings said:

At last Geonosis looks less like Tatooine it's more like a dust planet than a sandy desert world.

Almost like it's a giant ball of pumice or like our moon but with an atmosphere.

I always imagined Clone wars as a dark age. So the battle can be more dark and metaphor like.

Shadows always behind the bad guys, light behind good guys.

 

-Angel

 

 I always thought that shot had such potential to be a iconic sort of shot, well of course Angel knows just how that can be done, especially to this whole movie lol. GJ

 

 I love this shot...my favorite shot from Geonosis yet, Angel!

On the subject of CGI:

There are many problems with todays CGI...I could sit down with a movie and talk at length about what's wrong...sometimes it's the animation, sometimes the actual render, sometimes the lighting, sometimes the composite, sometimes the camera movement-...I look at this shot Angel did and even though I like it...when it's in motion...it sometimes losses something. Todays CGI camera moves are sometimes ridiculous! They have the camera zooming around...panning around 360 degrees...moving in ways cameras CAN'T move and they expect us to believe they filmed it? Acutally, that's not the case anymore...they DON'T expect us to believe they filmed it...they just want us to suspend our disbelieve long enough to buy the shot...well, I can say I'm a little tired of it! OK, I'm done...for now...  ;)

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#366186
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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tehwallaby said:

Not as of yet, I'm going to be doing all of the PT, trying to make them feel more OT, and more Star Wars. I need to find a good base, maybe even one with some colour correction and/or minor edits.

 

 Again, sadly, I don't know much about these things...however you might want to look at some edit ideas from my youtube page: http://www.youtube.com/user/SSWR1

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#366183
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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tehwallaby said:
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

 Wow this sounds sweet! I've been think about ROTS along the same lines...

but the Windu/Fett fight in ROTS? I had never thought of that...could work really well...

What software will you be using for editing and effects?

 

At this stage probably Adobe After Effects and Vegas. With a bit of help from Photoshop for certain parts. I'm yet to decide what to use as a base, at this stage probably 720p versions. I don't know what to use to create a new sound mix, any suggestions?

Cool...Sadly, I don't know enough about sound mixing software...or sound mixing! :D

Have you started your own thread yet?

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#366176
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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tehwallaby said:

Great DuTwan, I'll be glad to see how this turns out.

 

Furthermore, I've been thinking about Boba and Jango, and have considered making them comrades, and having both appear in my AOTC edit. Mace Windu will still behead Jango, but Boba will be incapacitated until after the Battle of Geonosis, at which point he will align himself with Tyranus, and in turn Palpatine. Then, he will be present in the Great Jedi Purge, and he will be the one to kill Mace Windu, with the Palpatine and Anakin scene taking place with Aayla Secura instead.

I also plan to change ROTS radically. I want to make all the scenes that follow pre-Vader Anakin occur before the last half an hour, after the Battle of Heroes we will see scenes with Vader executing Jedi, and eventually destroying the Jedi Temple. All this will take place without so much as a word about Anakin actually being Vader.

 

 Wow this sounds sweet! I've been think about ROTS along the same lines...

but the Windu/Fett fight in ROTS? I had never thought of that...could work really well...

What software will you be using for editing and effects?

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#365374
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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mrbenja0618 said:
Knightmessenger said:

Well, I recently came across this and thought it was an interesting edit. I wonder if Trooperman's is similar because this looks a lot better than I remember the original scene from AotC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKtom9v3kL4

Could somebody explain what was changed (besides the music)?

 

Yeah, this was pretty impressive... SSWR, if you're reading this; how did you swap out the music tracks successfully while maintaining voice, and sound effects?

 

He cut 3p0 and R2 out.... HUGE difference.

 

 Thanks! I like it too  ;)

As far as the vocals go...I think everything I used in that scene didn't actually *have* music underneath. Or if any of it did it wasn't very prominant so it just blended into the music I added.

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#365319
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Bingowings said:

If an edit of this kind were to be attempted there would be a lot of Qui-Gon dialogue removed which might be remixable to create the necessary (and only the necessary) exposition.

Oh to have a portable Liam Neeson at hand.

Lines like "I have encountered a vergence in the Force" could be (though I'm not underplaying how difficult the process might be or how awful the final results might sound) altered to say something like "There is something else behind all this, I sense a vergence in the Force"  when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan receive their assignment to protect the Queen.

That way they would be preemptively expecting to encounter this Chosen One on their mission before we find out that he is just a slave boy on a planet they didn't expect to be marooned on. It would actually make something of the somewhat bolted on Chosen One story thread.

A bit like in ESB where the great Jedi Master turns out to be a strange little green guy with big ears.

The discussion about Sith Lords (if it is necessary at all) could be moved to when they have the ship up and running and take place via holograph (like Obi-wan's warning about Geonosis in AOTC).

George created this universe with holographic telephony and precognition but in TPM he felt the need to shift characters across the galaxy to deliver plot points to each other in person. Even in Shakespeare some messages are delivered via messengers rather than having all the characters on stage at once. In most tellings of King Arthur and as far as I know every telling of story of Jesus Christ we know about the Chosen One before we meet him in the story but in TPM we have to find out about all this after we meet Anakin which is one of the reasons it just feels shoved in.

It would need someone or some people to go through the script and see what lines need to be shifted and if they can be re-mixed in a credible way.

The real drawback being that, despite bold claims there is, as yet no scoreless sound mix so John Williams lovely music (not to mention all the various sound effects) may be a real bugger to filter out (if it is indeed possible at all).

Even then joining one piece of dialogue to another and finding a way around lip-sync miss matches is another real task but if it was easy I have no doubt someone would have done this sort of thing already.

As always all suggestions along these lines are welcome.

Gotcha...sounding good...I thought perhaps you had more specifics on dialouge...but yeah it's once you start planing out certain scenes that you'll realize if it works or not. I believe you said you're planning on getting some editing software...? If you *do* plan on trying this edit I'd certainly try and help with trying to find the right dialouge...  :D

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#365285
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Bingowings said:
SilverKey said:

Nice mockup Bingowings. What is the story behind it? Is this part of your suggestion of making the movie start with Amidala already on Coruscant and making the movie about her return to Naboo to help her people? Now that's a radical idea!

I tried to do a mockup myself of the scene I mentioned earlier. I tried to put Mace and Obi-Wan in the Jedi Temple hangar from the AOTC deleted scene into a background of the hangar we see in ROTS. I wanted to salvage the scene, because I like it better than the one replacing in the final movie. It didn't work though. The angles are all off, and it's almost impossible to get a clean plate of the background.

Basically yeah, here's a previously cobbled together selection of ideas on the same theme but I have posted a few more since.

I'm getting to grips with some new soft and hardware at the moment but I hope to start doing some video mockups of the idea soonish but if anyone likes any of these ideas feel free to run with them and suggest ways of adjusting or realising them.

Bingowings said :

 My idea for the beginning would be from the scroll down to a full Naboo hanging in space the Trade Federation ships surround the planet (does anyone have any more back views of the Trade Federation ships btw?).

Naboo 1

Then we see an edited version of Sidious (fully concealed as in many edits) telling Nute Gunray he can land his troops and the landing ships and fighters descend.

The Federation invaded centuries before and were seen by the Gungans as gods but the Naboo fought them and ever since there has been tension (no tax disputes).

Federation Gods

The Sith have promised to help them regain power over the contested planet where an uneasy truce gives the Naboo and Gungan's joint sovereignty.

Fighting breaks out in Theed (some of the buildings are destroyed).

Then cut to Coruscant and Amidala's meeting with Palpatine (with the message from Sio Bibble edited in) and an altered Jedi Council meeting where Qui-Gon claims to sense the chosen one and he's discovery is linked to the Naboo crisis.

Then the Senate meeting which removes Valorium, then the Queen opts to go back to Naboo to end the crisis.

The Jedi are sent to protect her but they can not call for war against the Federation until the Blockade is confirmed to be unlawful.

Her ship is attacked on route and she has to land on Tatooine.

They meet up with Anakin, gain the parts they need, Anakin joins the Jedi hoping to liberate Tatooine at a later date (giving Anakin a noble intention for leaving his mother behind rather than just seeing the stars).

They break through the blockade and create a hasty alliance with the Gungans. The Gungan's attack the bulk of the droid army, The Jedi attempt to shut down the shields for Trade Federation command ship and encounter battle droids (which should rarely if ever speak and certainly should not be the comic relief goons as seen in the theatrical version...incidently they do sound good in German) and finally the Sith Lord they first encountered on Tatooine, the Naboo fighters clear the path for the Jedi and take on the full Federation fleet (not just one ship making it an more hopless fight) and the Queen and her troops storm the palace.

 I'd keep the Gungans but dub them so that Jar-Jar is now the Gungan ambassador and represents his people just as much as Amidala. He is a bit out of water but not the buffoon we see in the original cut.

 I'm going to play with the idea that instead of there being a single droid control ship the whole blockade is there (the Naboo have more fighters, squadrons added by changing the colours of the fighters to blue, red etc:

Red Group

but they are still greatly outnumbered because they have no capital ships or droid fighters)

 

I actually like the idea of R2 being blue because he's one of blue group's astrodroids (Naboo seems to be obsessed with aesthetics).

Nablue

Qui-Gon and Obi Wan have to get onto the fleet command ship to stop signal jamming so they can get a distress signal to the Republic to send for help (and they fight Maul there, also moving the droid battles on the ship from the beginning of the film to the end).

 That way the sabre battle is more associated with space battle and the Gungan battle is more associated with the throne room.

Anakin doesn't destroy the command ship he just destroys a ship single handed and deliberatly (not by accident).

Once Nute Gunray is captured he orders the ships away (to save his skin) and the Droids power down on his command not because one ship is destroyed (which seemed a stupid way to run a war in the first place).

 

 

 

 Bingo, I meant to comment on this earlier: I'm very interested in this radical edit...but I'm wondering how some of this will be accomplished...?

Specifically paragraphs like this:

"...altered Jedi Council meeting where Qui-Gon claims to sense the chosen one and he's discovery is linked to the Naboo crisis."

Short of redubbing Qui-Gon, how would you accomplish this scene? Thanks! :D

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#365271
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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vaderios said:
darthmunky said:

Ady, when Luke jumps off the platform, does he get sucked into that tube or does he purposly land in there? When I was young, I always thought it was just a coinsidence that he landed there. (And it looked so fake) But if it sucked him in, perhaps you should add some sort of vacuum sound effect. and speed it up so it doesnt look so fake when he goes in there.

yes good point.

And some more random camera move because it looks like reversed played footage ;)


-Angel

 

Some reversed smoke/vapors (sped up) also going into the tube would help the shot...

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#364851
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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brash_stryker said:

I don't care whether he's that bad ass, only that the changes to his character help make Anakin seem more like a victim than a brat.

Him taking on Palpatine alone makes sense, and means we don't see the ridiculous deaths of hardened Jedi because they just stand there doing nothing. Or the fact that 4 Jedi went to subdue him but they never thought to contact the other Jedi to tell them about the impending arrest.

This change also brings to mind the quote "your overconfidence is your weakness".

Oh I agree...I actually hate that he IS a "bad ass"...and what does that really mean anyway?

Yes making Anakin a victim is a must...We need to feel *something* for Anakin in the PT, right?  :P

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#364845
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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brash_stryker said:

Excellent work SSWR! Really like what this does to Mace's character. Makes him into an arrogant, untrusting S.O.B, which would explain why he goes to confront Palpatine WITHOUT EVEN TELLING ANY OTHER JEDI!

Yeah this is something I had thought of as well...Windu going into Palps office alone will go well with this type of character...It also makes it kind of tragic because Windu will have been the ONLY one who was right about Anakin! :D

Thanks for all the great feedback guys! Hmm...I wonder if Ady will consider this idea...  ;)