vaderios said:
Credit to SWWR for inspiration
-Angel
Ha! Well, thank you Angel! Very very nice mockups! The MF entering down into the slug...the clouds added to cloud city...very nice indeed.... :D
I also agree with Bingowings that this could indeed be frustrating for Adywan...
brash_stryker said:
One change I've implemented already is to move the Senate scene of Palpatine getting his emergency powers to immediately after Padme and Anakin leave Coruscant. He doesn't say anything about creating an Army because in my crawl, it will explain the army is common knowledge already. At the end of this scene, Mace doesn't say anything about going to Geonosis to help Obi Wan, and I've tweaked Yoda's line:
Mace: It is done then
Yoda: Hmmmmmm
*pause*
Yoda: Visit, Obi wan will, the cloners on Kamino.......and see this army they have created for the republic.Obviously the reason being to track down the bounty hunter, under the ruse of 'inspecting' the army.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49L3xzkZ3Pc
It's still VERY rough. I've done no work yet to smooth it out or add background music to Yoda's tweaked line. It's just in place ready for when I get to the audio stage.
SSWR, how would your idea be accomplished? And what narration do you mean? I'm definitely interested :)
Hmmm...your idea sounds like it'll work well...
I'm not quite sure how my idea would be accomplished! lol...after effects would be a must though! I started working on an idea...I'll let you know if I really get anywhere ;)
And as far as narration...well...I DO know that I like the idea of the clone army being common knowledge. And now that you've explained that Obi wan will still go to Kamino under the ruse of 'inspecting' the army...well I think that should work well.
I'm very excited for your edit! I don't know where I can really help you in this...mostly ideas, I guess! :D
brash_stryker said:
My aims with this edit:
To address the nonsensical plot, Jedi stupidity, Anakin being an asshole, Boba Fett being a kid, and many other issues. (will update when I can remember them all)List of Changes:
- New title and Crawl - Suggestions welcome and encouraged! New crawl will explain that the Clone Army is common knowledge.
- Re-edited Kamino scenes to remove Jedi ignorance of the Republic ordering a clone army.
I had an idea the other day concerning the republic knowing about the clone army:
The very first senate scene could have someone (Palps) showing a "video" using the actual footage from Kamino. Maybe even have Lama Su there in a floating pod thingy narrating on top of the footage (just like in the original).
The idea is to move all of the information from that scene in the original and rework it to be used in the opening senate scene to show visually that the rebuplic is on board for this clone army.
It seems like there could be some advantages and disadvantages to this idea...one disadvantage is I don't know exactly what would take place once Obi wan lands on Kamino. lol Just the whole Fett thing I guess...
Anyways...thought?
TheTome said:
Hey, I've been following this thread for a while now, and figured I'd post this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnrHvnCTH6k
This is a heavy re-edit of the Episode III opening battle. Notable changes are:
-No Buzz Droids
-New Music
-Color correction
I know the youtube upload created some odd interlacing, but I would like to know what you think of the pacing and the color changes.
Hey I haven't seen you hear in a long time! welcome back! :D
I actually have two of your older videos (of this same scene) stored on my desktop that I watched not too long ago...crazy huh?
I think this is your best edit of this scene yet!
vaderios said:
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:
I forgot to ask: Is this new shuttle a model you built, Ady?
Ady said in facebook page: The shot was completed a few month ago with a very nice CG shuttle :)
Thanks, Angel. I don't know how I missed that... :/
I forgot to ask: Is this new shuttle a model you built, Ady?
Yes! Very nice new shuttle! The old box ship just looked so odd...plus the movement was weird too. :D
Excellent! I love that Yoda actually takes a BITE of the food! :D
Is Frank Oz's head gone now? It's hard to tell from the video...
Very very cool!
One thing I loved about the saber fight from TPM that was completely lacking in AOTC and ROTS was Qui-Gon meditating. It looked as if Qui-Gon was calling on the force to help him which was great. But no one else does this in any of the other PT movies! I would think Yoda would've called on the force...I mean, Sidious just turned Anakin over to the dark side and personally killed Windu and those other Jedi with him...shouldn't Yoda be a little less cocky going in to this fight?
I actually like your line of thought here, Bingo....carry on... ;)
shanerjedi said:
well simple rotoscoping can be done. that is doable. but if were talking about creating new elements, that's something else entirely. That's the thing about many of these edits: enhancing things with roto and paint work is one thing, but creating new elements is much more difficult.
You are definantly correct on this. This is something that concerns me with what Adywan is doing for ESB:R. Believe me, I want the newly filmed elements to work-... probably more than anyone else...but getting it to look seemless...well, that's the trick. :D
shanerjedi said:
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:
Ghost said:
shanerjedi said:
*chants* video mock up video mock up video mock up
I'll second that.
lol you guys are funny...I'm a bit busy at the moment...i have several projects i'm jumping back and forth between now...including: pretty much the last have of ROTS (trying to figure out how everything should go down...i still think keeping Vader a secret is possible) and an entirely new scene for TPM! :D
I'm with you all the way on that point. I'm just not sure if it can be done with the available footage. I look forward to what you come up with.
Yep I hear you on that...I'm not sure yet either. ;) what I have now I *know* will have to be manipulated quite a bit...rotoscoping and such...but i do think it could work.
Ghost said:
shanerjedi said:
*chants* video mock up video mock up video mock up
I'll second that.
lol you guys are funny...I'm a bit busy at the moment...i have several projects i'm jumping back and forth between now...including: pretty much the last have of ROTS (trying to figure out how everything should go down...i still think keeping Vader a secret is possible) and an entirely new scene for TPM! :D
adywan said:
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:
Ok so I was watching the clip again....do my eyes deceive me? Are some of those last few shots trimmed a bit? Specifically the shot of Luke falling? If i'm right, it probably has to do with the new shots and getting it to sync with the music...?
Anyone care to put up a split screen video? :D
No, none of the last few shots have been trimmed. I just removed the shot of the Wampa in pain.
Ah! Thanks Ady.
I meant to say thank you for throwing us a few new bones recently! :D
Ok so I was watching the clip again....do my eyes deceive me? Are some of those last few shots trimmed a bit? Specifically the shot of Luke falling? If i'm right, it probably has to do with the new shots and getting it to sync with the music...?
Anyone care to put up a split screen video? :D
Bingowings said:
Do I detect a video mockup on the way SSWR?
No no. lol Just thought I'd throw my two cents in there.... ;)
I got the original download to work...hmm...weird
Well the video looks great! My guess is that this the new edit of the scene minus the new Wampa shots. So any time we get a shot of the SE wampa, it will be replaced by the new one...?
shanerjedi said:
I just don't think it would be clear enough to go in after the fact and add a shot or two of the moon graphic without a line or two of dialogue stating: "moving into firing position sir" or something like that.
Agreed. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKtom9v3kL4
Yeah, I'm trying to remember how I did this! lol ...I think I simply took a movie clip...some sort of moving background video....maybe something a VJ might use...then I stretched and skewed it, and made it flicker on and off a bit...and there you have it! :D
Ric Olie said:
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:
I mean, who *didn't* know that Palps was behind everything in the PT?
What?!?
Mr. Palpatine was my oldest and most trusted adviser. Heck, he used to babysit me.
That's not true! That's impossible!!!!
Noooooooooooo!
Whoops! Sorry there, Ric. It's kind of like the whole Santa thing-...uh oh! ;)
Bingowings said:
Apparently it was originally Sido Dyas (geddit?) Lucas claimed he's explain it later but in true Doctor Who fashion he never bothered.
Yes, that's what I remember too...I just thought it would've been someone else...I mean, who *didn't* know that Palps was behind everything in the PT? Lucas made that perfectly clear...so I assumed it would've been someone else who ordered the clones...like Windu or Qui-Gon...silly me! lol :D
mrbenja0618 said:
I was tinkering with this scene from AOTC.... This was inspired by an Angel mockup.
Definantly adds some great mood to the scene! :D
Ghost said:
The Sifo Dias mystery was something I didn't get until about my third time watching the movie. I first thought that Qui-Gon was Sifo Dias. I think Sifo Dias should of been Count Dooku. It would make it less confusing. It doesn't make sense because there is really no backstory to this Sifo Dias fellow. Why he would call for an army makes no sense.
Yeah, I STILL don't know where Lucas was going with that sub plot...? Was it Sidious who ordered them?
Davnes007 said:
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:
OK, my take on Yoda and dagobah.
....I DO believe having Yoda and Bail hanging out there, then the twins being born there makes perfect sense...
...and don't forget MY epic length version. (...basically the same, but with lots of padding ;) ...)
Oh yes! Also a good one! complete with a new 3D model! :D
Thanks for replying, Trooperman! a few thoughts...
"Yes, that’s a major, major problem. It bothers me a great deal. I’m still considering how to fix it. It would be great if there was a long shot with all 3 of them, but of course there isn’t, because this scenario never even happened in AOTC. So I painted myself into a corner…"
-Hmmm...maybe you could talk to Angel about this...? Or Adywan? ;)
"People may think they don’t advance the plot…actually, they do. Without them, you don’t buy that they fall in love. They are necessary."
-After watching it again and reading your quote above...I'm starting to agree. :D
"Also, after they land on Naboo, if you notice, I reinstated the deleted parts of the scene and cut out most of the lines they used in AOTC, the supposedly “plot related” lines. Why? They’re falling in love. All I did in that particular scene, by the way, was kept the conversation on personal details, and cut out any time in which Padme berates Anakin like a little boy. Watch the scene in the original cut to see the difference."
-Actually, I noticed this right off the bat and loved it! The only deleted Naboo scene that I really felt didn't have to be there was Padmes bedroom scene. I personally don't care for all of the forshadowing Lucas did for Vader in the PT. Plus some of Padmes line delivery is terrible: "They were so full of life...they all were."
"Neither am I. I do like the droid factory. It went from looking really cheesy to looking really artistic and dangerous looking- almost like a painting sometimes. I think the music also helped there. Before, it was a mishmash featuring the love theme prominently (Oh, look! Padme’s in danger! Let’s play the love theme.). The approach I took, though, was that if this were in the OT, the effects and the “newness” of it all (all the machines and everything) would be such that the music would be emphasizing the adventure and the incredible nature of it all. That’s the thing. I think the prequels took too much for granted. Like that flying scene. The effects are so good now that we’ll just use this light, trivial, music. WRONG. Even with CG effects, we need this kind of, “What I’m seeing right now is incredible!” type of music to keep it fresh and innocent, and new. That’s what I did with the speeder chase in Coruscant. Watch the old one from AOTC to see what I’m saying. "
-Yes! Definantly. You accomplished this throughout the movie. There is now a feeling of adventure you get...which is pretty much lacking throughout the entire PT. You certainly know you're way around music! That is something lacking in most edits I've seen...including my own :P