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#660988
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ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss!
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Bingowings said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Anchorhead said:

I respectfully submit the boat chase from Live And Let Die as my favorite film chase.

Sorry, just can't get on board with any Return discussion.  I've seen it twice for sure (the last time about fifteen years ago) and I just can't stand a single moment of it. 

You know what, that comes DAAAMNN close to the Speederbike chase!

That scene is just one of the reasons I'd put 'Live and Let Die' in my top 5 Bond movies.

I love it too... even the silly bits.

People go on about how fake the podrace is and how great the speeder bike race is.

If the comedy aliens

were all human children

forced into riding pods to buy their families out of slavery and not characters from the munch bunch or the wacky races  the pod race would be miles better than the bike chase.

Both look fake.

Both were filmed with a mixture of sped up 'real' footage and special effects.

ROTS and AOTC proved that Lucas isn't against showing child death in his PT movies.

The flaw with TPM is I don't care if crocodile man makes it.

Indeed the demented deleted scenes outfrink Frink by turning the death of an alien driver into a sick comedy moment with his tearful comedy wife and kids crying over his comedy death.

And I KNOW ANAKIN WILL MAKE IT!

I don't feel our heroes in mortal jeopardy in the speeder bike chase but I care about the characters enough not to want them to get hurt (which is the most possible risk in that sequence).

In the original Death Star battle I care about "They're coming in too fast" guy.

I want "Almost there: guy to survive.

And they die.

This is the flaw with ROTJ which is intensified in TPM.

The explosions are there, the speed is there but nobody I care about is in any actual risk.

In ESB everyone feels at risk and none of the main characters good or bad are killed.

In ROTJ none of the good guys (other than Luke) feel in peril, not even Wedge buys the big one but every bad guy goes ¡BANG BANG!

In all fairness, I thought Sebulba was ruthless and menacing, even if he doesn't wear pants. Unfortunately, he's lumped in with with all the comedy aliens that wouldn't cut it even in an old Space Quest game.

The old George would have had Sebulba ending up a dark splat on a canyon wall as comeuppance for all his dirty deeds though.

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#660813
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Frink's Digital Diorama [was: OT Deleted Scene Restoration Project?]
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skywalker89 said:

What's that german crap?

I just want to repair/remake Jambe Davdar's version, with better color correction, so that the stencils are unvisible, which would make it look more realistic.. For that I need all sources he used, so that I can put it in the Blu-Ray scene.

You claim to be from Germany, but you can't read German?

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#660726
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ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss!
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dan76 said:

Bingowings said:

The PT is bad but there is a thick dense ground of much worse movies to dig out before you can put them in the worst films ever made strata.

If it wasn't for Mark playing Luke with all the gumption he gave the role in the previous movies ROTJ would play out much like TPM.

The tone, the pacing, the story structure and much of the imagery are nearly identical.

 

I really can't see how anything is identical. They have a completely different look to me, in terms of design... everything. That's another thing about those prequels, the ships, costumes, the overall look didn't say "Star Wars" at all. More like Babylon 5 or some cheap tv show.

Making a good film is incredibly hard, it's almost a miracle when it works, and looking at the prequels and what they had going for them: A world wide inbuilt audience, loved characters, an amazing universe all set up by the first three films. I can't think of any film that has all that going for it, a huge audience wanting to love it. What does he do?

Kill the Force. Have Darth Vader build C3-PO. Set it up that at the beginning of Star Wars Vader is on a ship with his daughter, the robot he built as a kid, above the planet he grew up on, where his son now lives... Why not make IG-88 Chewbacca's cousin?

There is nothing of the spirit of the original films in those prequels, all of which are so flat, lacking in any dynamic story telling. The acting is uniformly bad, but that's probably because it was mostly shot green screen. They're a cgi mess.

I think Star Wars ended in 1983, but each to their own.

 

Funny thing is, Mad Magazine did an issue in the 1982 featuring Lucas' stolen notebook for future episodes, and their resemblance to the prequels is uncanny. Maybe they actually got their hands on the real thing? ;)

Read and be amazed...

http://imgur.com/a/Up1J4

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#660706
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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"You are a true believer. Blessings of the state, blessings of the masses.

Thou art a subject of the divine. Created in the image of man, by the

masses, for the masses.

Let us be thankful we have an occupation to fill. Work hard; increase

production, prevent accidents, and be happy."

JEDIT:Missed it by that much!

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#660688
Topic
We all know that stand-alone Star Wars movies are a done deal (Like it or not) so what do you want to see???
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TMBTM said:

I'm waiting for Papatine's origine story, where we'll learn how a funny and smart little boy he was, before a Jedi accidentally killed his father during a fight against a Sith Lord.

Poor little Palpy will then learn the way of the Force to destroy the Jedi. "All of them!!!". So it will rhyme when he says that in TPM. It'll be like poetry.

He will learn his powers from Darth Plagueis who, at one point, will see that Palpy is getting stronger than him. So he'll ask the help of the Jedi. A union between a Sith Lord and the Jedi against young Palpy. But Palpy found out about this betrayal and killed his master during his sleep. (poetry again!)

But then Palpy is killed at the end. But wait, no! It created a clone of himself before. So the Palpatine we see in the OT is actulay already a clone of the REAL Palpatine that we finaly see in this origine story. So that movie really brings some new perspective to the overall story....

Or not.

Robot Chicken covered most of this already. ;)

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#660636
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Deleted, altered, and alternate material project (Released)
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skywalker89 said:

I'm from Germany and have no time to read all old post here, so sorry if I talk about something, that has been already discussed.

I want to make just a Bonus-Disc with Deleted scenes to the original theatrical version of the trilogy. As DVD and/or Blu Ray. Mostly I want to make color corrections and picture cleaning to the official Blu Ray deleted scenes.

Can someone recreate the deleted Jabba Scene from "a new hope" with the actor Declan Mulholland in HD? The available version of a reconstruction is bad because you can see the stencils and the quality differences of the sources, also a color correction is missing and the aspect ration is wrong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCdZ11BM-6Y

The documentary "From Star Wars to Jedi", which is only available on VHS in US and UK and Laserdisc in Japan, contains the half scene in 4:4 aspect ration. And the sound is also not complete, Mark Hamil, as the main narrator, is talking about the scene while it is showing.

And I also want to see the final version from 1997 in HD, with and without original cinema subtitles. If someone needs some source, I have a DVD Transfer from a 1997 German Laserdisc, with original German cinema subtitles.

I have no material to reconstruct the Jabba scene, only a DVD-Transfer of the 1997 German Laserdisc, the bad reconstruction in the youtube version, the official DVD and Blu Ray and the UK VHS "From Star Wars to Jedi".

If someone could send me all existing material from the scene with Declan Mulholland, in the best available quality, that would be great.

I would try to made a better reconstruction with the apple program "Final Cut Pro 7", but first someone have to send me the material.

I would try to make it like Harmy described how he made his despecialised reconstruction of the movie in this Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHfLX_TMduY

I hope someone can soon help me with my project.

Next time, start a new thread and do not post the exact same thing in multiple places. That can be misconstrued as spamming this board, which is frowned upon.

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#660061
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ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss!
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Tyrphanax said:

Bingowings said:

Leia has her own reasons to be repelled by the notion that her hero/brother is related to the thing that killed her homeworld (the glossing over her reaction to her being his daughter is a giant misstep in this film).

The fact that Alderaan is never mentioned again, and especially not during this key scene always bothered me.

The main blame for Alderaan rests squarely on Tarkin. Vader wasn't the one who gave the order.

The realization that her torturer was her father should have been addressed though.

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#659857
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ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss!
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Bingowings said:

SilverWook said:

Tyrphanax said:

Here's a fun theory:

Since the whole Endor bit was a set-up, what better trap than to present the attackers with something they'd defeated before?

Not to mention deliberately make it look unfinished and vulnerable. That was a touch of evil genius.

Making it actually unfinished and vulnerable (unable to jump into hyperspace when things get too bad, unable to generate it's own shield and playing host to the real Emperor and his 'second in command" and not fakers) was a bit dumb.

Palpatine is overconfident in his old age. And who among his underlings is going to dare say his plan has holes in it? He probably Force chokes people when his soup is too hot.

Where in the film is it implied the DS can't flee? Palpy said it was fully operational.

I do like the idea of Palpatine and Vader having doubles to thwart assassination attempts. That might have been a real issue in the early days of the Empire. Maybe one of the spinoff films will show that.