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I still remember the original NES quietly showing up on store shelves in the U.S. only a few months after the videogame industry was pronounced "dead" by the press. The videogame section had actually vanished completely from several store chains I frequented at the time.
It takes a visionary to go against the grain.
Nice, but it seems strange for Hasbro to come out with a new line incompatible with the regular sized figures at this point. They bailed on the 12 inch figures after ROTS and the high end companies like Sideshow took over.
How articulated are they?
How about Garth Vader? I actually thought that was his first name for a brief period back in '77. ;)
Bingowings said:
Let's see...
TOD has some of the worst special effects ever inflicted on a cinema audience (not to mention really awful editing glitches).
A crime considering who made it and what the made their reputation making.
Also it is directed by a Jewish gentleman who has gone to great pains to show the Nazis as the monsters they were and yet made a film where the silly brown people are rescued from their pagan Gods by an American with the aid of the British Army.
That alone out Binks, Jar-Jar as the biggest step back in Hollywood racial politics since...pffff
I did see 17 times at the pictures though but that hormones for you.
Can you cite the specific scenes where you think ILM dropped the ball? I think the mine chase sequence holds up to this day. And I saw a lovely 35mm print just a few years ago.
Comparing 1980's Spielberg to 1990's Spielberg is like comparing 1977 Lucas to 1999 Lucas. Not really the same fellow. IIRC, Steven has said in an interview it would be pretty hard for him to do Nazis as mustache twirling villains the way he did in the Indy films today. He even said once he probably wouldn't have Roy Neary board the mothership in Close Encounters had he made the film today.
If an accomplished actor like the late Amrish Puri had no problems playing Mola Ram, I see no reason to think Spielberg was trying to stereotype the people of India.
Unless you suspect he was venting his frustrations over E.T. getting beaten at the Oscars by Ghandi. ;)
What I've learned of their reaction to the new Miss America tells me India has racial issues of it's own.
Too bad the Wampa subplot got cut, as Threepio removing the warning sign on the door where they're cooped up has a great payoff.
It only took a few seconds for Han to come back and get Threepio anyway. Better than having to tell Luke later he left him behind.
I concur. However, if Disney does an animated Tag & Bink Are Dead movie on the side, I could live with that. :)
imperialscum said:
Bingowings said:
I can see it making sense that Red Leader would let Luke fly when the planet they are defending is about to be blown up but not making sense to send a gold, loud, fussy butlerdroid into a bunker siege situation on a green planet.
C3PO being part of the mission comes down to one simple thing. There is only one simple "if" involved and that is if Solo decided so (he was strike team leader). Judging from some of his past decisions (foolish charge on Strormtroopers, not paying Jabba for 3 years, etc.), it is not too hard to believe he approved this one too.
On the other hand, Luke flying X-wing has tons of complicated "if"s: if rebels had a spare X-wing, if rebels really didn't have spare pilots to fly it (highly unlikely), if rebel command is willing to take some unknown farm boy, if Luke's "crop duster" management skill is anywhere near sufficient to handle an "F-16", and so on.
Do we really know it's three years between SW and ESB? It also might have been difficult to skirt increased Imperial traffic to fly directly to Tatooine, and pay Jabba off in the wake of the DS being destroyed.
The Rebels favoring secret bases in places far from civilization is another factor too. I doubt Han could just mail Jabba a check. There likely isn't a trustworthy third party that could get the loot to the Hutt, either.
What actually became of the money the rebels paid Han is a mystery. (Outside the Marvel comic anyway.) I guess Luke showing up with the money to exchange for Han wasn't considered as exciting.
Ryan McAvoy said:
Bingowings said:
He leads the run through Force of will.
Wedge and Biggs are both clearly lacking in confidence after the death of so many comrades
You are imagining things that aren't in the film to cover over the flaws (Not that I give a toss about those flaws myself). Luke leads the run because Red Leader says...
"Luke take reds 2 and 3, wait up here for my signal to make your run"
Hang on?!? A minute ago Red Leader was questioning Luke's ability to fly an X-Wing and is only reasured about his abilities when Red3 (Biggs) tells him he's okay. You have to assume he trusts Biggs' opinion from past missions, otherwise he'd be asking Biggs the same question. Then he's putting Luke in charge of Red3, a man he trusts?!?
And of course you are assuming that hanger bay exposition scene is in the film. Because for the first 20 years of Star Wars it wasn't. Unless you are saying that the SE is the definitive SW?*
*(;-) joking... thems fightin' words!)
All that aside, my general point is ROTJ has illogical things and so do the other two films. Lando saying the line...
"Someone must have told them about my little maneuver at the Battle of Taanab"
...is all the info we need in ROTJ, just as Luke saying...
"I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home, they're not much bigger than two meters"
...is all we need in ANH to establish his pilot credentials.
Whether the exposition scene is in there or not, it still affects the scenes that come afterward, because for everyone involved in the production it's still "in" when the movie was shot. One reason why whittling a film down in the editing room can lead to story problems.
All the old geezers like me who grew up with the Marvel comic probably subconsciously insert the cut scenes where needed. ;)
Davnes007 said:
cain spaans said:
I say this movie should have more smart characters and less of the dumb ones. That's right I am talking to you Jar Jar Binks.
Maybe it could have Jar Jar's kids in it?
By now, Jar Jar has been soo ridiculed and tormented by people who hate him, that now he himself has turned to the darkside. He's trained Jar Jar Jr. & Jill Jill the ways of Evil Doing, and they must be destroyed.
STAR WARS: Episode VII: JAR JAR's REVENGE
At the end, Mara Jade helps Leia Jr. use the force to put Jar Jar Jr. into an air-lock on the Mel. Falcon, and jettison him into space.
According to Robot Chicken, Jar Jar was on the dark side all along. ;)
I think the Artoo unit in the backseat can automate a lot of things for a neophyte pilot though. It was established in ESB that R2 could take over and let Luke take a rest if he wanted.
imperialscum said:
Bingowings said:
The Rebels are an insurgent force (not an established planetary military force).
Even so it would be like Holland Vs the galaxy.
The planet they are on is about to be vapourised.
I think they would be sticking every man they could in those things especially people skilled at piloting similar craft that vouched for by a current squadron member and can get a character reference from one of the leaders of the whole operation.
Luke and Biggs both assert that Luke is skilled enough to pilot the ship well.
And if you are going to call me stupid do it in the off topic section.
Since you try so hard to establish how poor this rebels are, what would make you believe they have more expensive star fighters than manpower. Logically it would be the opposite of course.
Yea sure Biggs vouched for Luke. Two guys from a poor 3rd world country were driving tractors at their farm when they were young. One of them went to a developed country to become a fighter pilot. Some time later they meet and this guy vouches for his friend "you know we drove tractors when we were young". The squadron commander is indeed so impressed that he immediately puts the guy into the fighter plane cabin.
And btw I did not call you stupid.
Biggs and Luke both flew T-16 Skyhoppers on Tatooine. Luke fools around with a small model of it in the film, and you can see the full size one in the back of the garage where he cleans up the droids.
Red Leader having met Luke's famous pilot father is also one heck of a character reference. ;)
It's too bad they cut the female pilots they shot for Jedi. That this older gal is in the the thick of the battle speaks volumes.
Biggs vouched for Luke's piloting skills. He's the best bush pilot in the outer rim territories you know! The scene was only partially restored to the SE, but it was addressed.
Rescuing the princess puts Luke in the good graces of the Rebellion as well.
I have no problem believing they might have been short a pilot or two. People do get sick at the worst possible times. Luke even said to Han they could use a good pilot like him.
IIRC, the radio adaptation added a scene where Luke trains in a simulator before the Death Star arrives?
We needed a new thread for this?
Back on topic...
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/new-star-wars-should-feel-real-j-j-abrams-says-20130920
They're all equally awful in their own special ways.
Fox is releasing DVD/Blu combo packs in the fall, but nobody knows what SE version is on the DVD's yet.
I didn't know TDK was making VHS tape back then. It was my preferred brand in the 80's for it's durability though.
Is this the first 1st gen recording to come to light? The screencaps look pretty good!
That could work too. :)
The theme from Mars Attacks might also be good for the Jedi slaughter.
As Han Solo once said, let's keep a little optimism here. :)
When Obi Wan configures the secret transmitter thingy to warn any surviving Jedi to stay the heck away from Coruscant...
Song that is the lure:(Because I can't think of another song that has "come back" in the lyrics right now.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYsKDaQIX54
Song that is the warning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p7mIvO1uHo
Or just a loop of Monty Python's "run away!"?
A little politeness goes a long way around here. The opposite is the path to the ban side.
As for Anakin/Vader, he's betrayed and slaughtered friends, colleagues, and little kids. Essentially destroying his entire "family". There's nothing left for him to return to, no reason to abandon the dark side. For better or worse, he owes Palpatine for saving him from dying a lonely pathetic death on Mustafar.
It's a sick twisted relationship, but it's all Vader has got.
It's not until he encounters his son that he begins to sway from the dark side.
Bingowings said:
SilverWook said:
Bingowings said:
I not a wookipeediaphile :-P
Biggs Darklighter. And some of us have known that since 1977, without having to look it up. ;)
I suppose Porkins is nothing more than exploding bearded fat guy to the likes of you!
Biggs isn't in ROTJ... he died.
So did Porkins.
I'm talking the chap with the face fuzz who blows up mid-sneeze after going in the tube with the Falcon.
Bet you don't know his name smartypants.
I should know better than to post stuff when I have a migraine. My bad.
Bingowings said:
I not a wookipeediaphile :-P
Biggs Darklighter. And some of us have known that since 1977, without having to look it up. ;)
I suppose Porkins is nothing more than exploding bearded fat guy to the likes of you!
