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- #662016
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- Episode III: Revenge of the Ridiculousness
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Steve really looks like he's reacting to the music as he makes his entrance. :)
Steve really looks like he's reacting to the music as he makes his entrance. :)
Tyrphanax said:
I know I'm dredging up old shit here, but on the old topic of X-Wings/Pilots/Luke/w/e, if you wanna argue the EU side, the X-Wing was originally an Incom design for the Empire. The Rebels stole some of the prototypes and then stole "several squadrons" of the production fighters right before Yavin, which makes it feel like they did indeed have more ships than pilots.
If you wanna argue straight films, it's shown in the films that Y-Wings have top turret that's controlled by someone in a rear seat. I feel like if they had more pilots (or even personnel) than ships, they'd have put people in those turrets because it would have bought the Y-Wings more time in the trench (I assume they could have taken out Vader's escort TIEs if not the man himself).
But then, of course, at the medal ceremony you see about a hundred more people in pilot gear so either they were just in training or they didn't have enough ships or the Rebels are dumb.
It's all kind of a weird situation.
All the photos I've ever seen of the OT Y-Wing make it look like what would have been the rear seat area is crammed full with electronics.
The Holiday Special incarnation does have a back seat, as does the "factory fresh" Clone Wars version with a bubble turret that seems inspired by Ralph McQuarrie's early renderings.
Finally, something involving Harrison Ford and a fridge we can all get behind! ;)
But is it real?
McQuarrie did do production art of scenes with them though.
http://www.df.lth.se/~ola/Starwars/Return/
Maybe George twisted his arm?
Ryan McAvoy said:
Han probably never read a book in his life. Unless it was...
Yes, I suspect the author of the article misunderstands what post production really is.
Lucasfilm does Machinima...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbyH3lhd17I
This might work for the Jedi temple security hologram? A shocking revelation about the real evil, and it sets up what happens at the funeral. ;)
http://youtu.be/5qAKXK_aLeA?t=1m37s
Evil Krusty laughter optional?
"Have fun storming the spire!"
Don't diss Scorpius. Unless you want him inside your head. ;)
Tobar said:
Hmm....
Hmm indeed! ;)
Spaced Ranger said:
Well that was a nice read -- the thread, that is. :) Here a few thoughts about it:
In keeping with the idea that this is a laserdisc preservation, it would seem best just to get the best capture, with any processing to minimize laserdisc/capture glitches, and put it on DVD for convenient play.
Is there anything else on the laserdisc to include? It would be nice to include scans of all the paper distributed with and around the laserdisc.
Thereafter, someone could do a restoration using this and/or other versions (there have been many). "Coilly" shouldn't be considered a "laserdisc glitch", as it shows up on other releases. Likewise, the edge enhancement. Fixing such belongs in a movie restoration. So, one step at a time.
A few non-laserdisc extras would be: language subtitles (including one from the creative Italian cut); "altered & missing shots/scenes" from a previous version on a TV-distribution 16mm print; and any TV ads/bumpers of the movie around the same time of this version's general release.
The DVD case artwork should be reminiscent of the laserdisc design. However, as that design is fairly ugly-looking, a focus on the robot policeman portrait would be an improvement. Also, I like the idea of a minimalistic DVD menu -- so think lots of white.
Once msycamore hands off the project resources, I'll know more of what he has for inclusion. In the meantime, I'll work on 2 snippets from the 16mm.
I need to get on photgraphing that vintage newspaper supplement with the Lucas interview from '71.
I asked bobgarcia about restoring the only copy we have of the 1978 reissue trailer a long time back.
The official DVD website has some nice graphics one could *borrow*.
I've given thought to some sort of supplement showing the shooting locations as they are today. I even know where the final scene was shot, but finding the exact spot will take some effort.
Those pub names are hilarious, as is that street sign. ;)
For Vader to be protecting his son for the wrong reasons, Luke and Palpatine have to be totally wrong about the internal conflict they both sense in him.
Have we really become that cynical and jaded?
imperialscum said:
I don't think Death Star is an equivalent for the senate or any kind of seat of power. The closest equivalent is British navy in the 19th and early 20th century. It was used to keep control of the subjugated land across the world. If someone resisted they would use the navy to spank them. King was still in London.
And certainly half finished DS2 wasn't safer than Coruscant. Emperor didn't come on unfinished DS2 to be safe. The only reason Emperor came to Endor was to get Luke (and possibly destroy Alliance in the process).
Since some fans say the imps shouldn't build DS2 because clearly the first one was proved weak. I mentioned 20th century navy. Post WW1 battleship building is a perfect example of man being capable of building extremely expensive and at the same time useless things over and over again.
Works pretty darn well for an unfinished battle station. As I've said before, the unfinished look was part of the trap. Unless you think Palpy was lying about the "fully operational" bit.
Perhaps some Bollywood remake/parody will force it's hero to eat American fast food. ;)
And I think I've found the plot for the next Indy movie if it ever gets made...
The Yavin system is arguably well off the beaten path. You don't put your hidden rebel base inside an ancient pyramid if you're going to have tourists or locals mucking about. You also don't want any inhabited planets nearby with space traffic who could see your comings and goings, and make approaching hostiles harder to spot.
I got the impression from the ending of ESB, and the events in Jedi that the Rebel fleet has adopted a nomadic existence, not unlike the rag tag fleet in Battlestar Galactica.
They couldn't, they were all shut down. ;)
It was a serious missed opportunity not making the battledroids all like IG-88. An army of those is a lot more scary than the mechanical ducks we got..
Bingowings said:
Moth3r said:
Bingowings said:
I'm taking the photo.
I thought you were president of the Didn't Like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Society?
I like some of it but strongly dislike other bits (a bit like Return Of The Jedi).
I was President for a while but I can't seem to remember everything about it.
Something to do with James Bond and some cactus people.
You can get away with taking the mickey out of Nazis, it's a bit more difficult taking the mickey out of their victims.
Arguably the Indian people under the Raj were as much the victims of European Imperialism as the Jews in Germany or the Palestinians in Israel (oops another thread does a bit of Politics... yes indeed).
Silverwook said : Everything served in the banquet scene is actually a real delicacy, so you can't accuse the screenwriters of making that stuff up. ;)
Show your sauces :-D
The most ancient and sophisticated culinary tradition on your planet and Lucas has to have a go at the brown skinned foreigners and their funny food.
It was one of those culinary shows on cable. They're not all actual Indian cuisine, but chilled monkey brains was shockingly real. I knew about some cultures eating insects long before TOD though.
That was one heck of wedding night! ;)
I'm all for Bossk in a tuxedo though.
It might be fun to see Boba briefly, *if* there's a logical reason for him to be in the movie, (he could have information our heroes need for a price) and leave how he escaped the Sarlacc to the imagination.
Han needs only glare at him and say nothing.
Or have him exposed as a Dread Pirate Roberts type of fellow, cashing in on on the late Fett's reputation.
Does Luke's hand come off, and is the trooper helmet removable?
Deviant fans of all ages will no doubt fight over the slave leia. ;)
Bingowings said:
So many awful effects to chose from with TOD.
The the exploding plane/mountain composite.
The matte painings of Pankot Palace.
Some of the mine sequence is brilliant but some shots would look nasty compared to Willis O'Brien's work (a genius in his time but this was a mid eighties film).
Then there is compositing of the shot where the water bursts through the model mine shaft with the badly matted in actors.
Then the unforgivable rope bridge models and mattes which breaks what should be a moment of tension.
The sad thing is the Lao Che sequence which gets a lot of flack is a wonderful pastiche of the era and has believable stunts.
I get the Gunga Din and Kim references but Kipling is a Victwardian you can make allowances seeing as for the day he was actually rather progressive in his attitudes.
But as I said it was a mid-eighties movie and had some of the cast of Gandhi (1982).
The banquet scene is astonishingly backwards especially from a country that gave the world McDougal's.
When I'm talking Spielberg Nazis I'm talking Raiders and TLC not Schindler's List.
Only Steven could make a holocaust movie with an upbeat ending.
ILM had a pretty full plate that year, so maybe they were stretched too thin? I think most video transfers make some shots stick out more than they did in theaters. I will give those shots more scrutiny if it plays the revival house here again.
Nazis in the Indy films are pretty much in the vintage Hollywood mold though. Especially the old movie serials that inspired the film. I'm still amazed Kenner got away with making action figures of Toht.
Everything served in the banquet scene is actually a real delicacy, so you can't accuse the screenwriters of making that stuff up. ;)
The door opening scene is what I refer to, he had to have turned back a moment to open the door?
I'm pretty sure he grabbed Threepio by the arm when he said "Come on!"? It might be a little hard to see it though...