- Post
- #739330
- Topic
- Do the Star Wars movies contain evidence that Lucas makes it up as he goes?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/739330/action/topic#739330
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I could have sworn Palpatine mentioned midis during the opera scene in ROTS?
I could have sworn Palpatine mentioned midis during the opera scene in ROTS?

It wouldn't surprise me if Quantum has evolved into Spectre, or is a splinter organization.
The first movie is good. STID is essentially Wrath of Khan Redux. ;)
Kirk returning to space! ;)
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-120114a-orion-eft1-mementos-artwork.html
Nice find! I like the bit about Leia running off with Chewie. ;)
I wonder why the two Wookiees eventually were changed to a similar, yet different species.
So, did someone actually have the Wartime Cartoons special? (I presume the individual shorts haven't made it into any DVD or Blu Ray Looney Tunes releases?) I recorded it on Super VHS back in the day, and made a DVD of it several years ago.
In the same vein, there was a home video release in 1989 with some different cartoons.
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/21790/ML101494/Looney-Tunes:-Bugs-amp;-Daffy:-The-Wartime-Cartoons
I have this on LD.
Bingowings said:
While that may be true I defy anyone to watch TPM and not see those ethnic stereotypes.
I think George in his eagerness to evoke all things Buster Crabbe thought he could use them if he transfered them away from the original human model and onto an alien.
Jabba was the sort of fat sultan that Frank Thring used to play, Yoda was the oriental sage and martial arts trainer, the Ewoks were any generic African tribe from a Tarzan movie so George thought he could give us Stepin Fetchit, some shifty trade grabbing Japs and a Semitic child slaver in much the same way.
The world had moved on (even from the 1980s). Sir Alec got into trouble for browning up in A Passage to India where nobody really cared in Lawrence of Arabia. Episodes of Doctor Who are routinely branded racist for using yellow face (ignoring the limited number of oriental actors available to the BBC at the time).
So come 1999 one would hope George would have realised there are some things you just cant get away with anymore. It doesn't stop the depiction of women and ethnic Sikhs in Star Trek Into Darkness as being equally behind the times.
Cumberbatch Khan was supposed to be Sikh?
Star Wars is a large, popular, and easy target to hitch a ride on in a world where clicks on websites are everything.
Now there are two of them!
Seriously though, I don't know what Lucas was thinking with the voice casting on them. They're too cowardly and dumb to be Fu Manchu stereotypes.
What a steaming load of Haggis! I don't know what's worse, dredging up the same crap we've heard since 1999, or yet again casting SOTS in a bad light, when this fellow has likely never seen the movie.
Jar Jar isn't racist, he's just annoying. And Tatooine is not an analog for the Middle East. (If anything, George was pinching Arrakis from Dune.) I wish I could get paid to write such pretentious twaddle. And people think the fans over analyze these movies!
None of the OT films looks exactly like each other. There is stock footage from Star Wars in ROTJ that sticks out every time I see it.
I don't think Bay can hold the camera that still for that long. ;)
As said elsewhere, the teaser probably doesn't represent the actual image quality of the finished film.
I wonder if he does it on purpose? Like a test of some sort? If you dare correct him, you'll be cleaning out your cubicle before the day is over. ;)
I'm glad the most controversial aspect around here is that saber. Some people on social media are complete tools...
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/01/showbiz/star-wars-stormtrooper-racism-john-boyega/index.html?hpt=hp_c3
RicOlie_2 said:
It's a really good impersonation aside from the fake laughter. That drove me crazy. :P
IIRC, George does chuckle like that. They just exaggerated it a bit. ;)
No, but I've met you in person. ;)
I'm surprised nobody has done a Narnia gag with that shot yet. I was half expecting to see a lampost or a faun in those snowy woods. ;)
Even though it was shot on film, it's not going to look like a film made in the 70's or 80's. Film stocks have changed, and cameras/lenses have changed.
They probably didn't even stick pantyhose over the lens while shooting in the desert. ;)
TheDoctor1987 said:
Your an asswhole and I'm not coming back to this site ever again!
In case you change your mind, please review the rules. Especially #1...
walking_carpet said:
+1
that was supposed to be one of the charms of star wars - thru all the characters, storylines, trials and tribulations - r2d2 and c3pO would be the constant. Or at least...thats what we were told :(
Of course we all know what happened, and I actually remember Lucas in the EPisode II commentary stating that he had difficulty finding something for r2 to do!! :O Overall though, it was really C-3PO that was blatantly out of place and shoe-horned in. At least R2 had his moments in the opening of Episode III.
Even if it was all along PR sham to advertise more charm and character to the once proud saga formerly known as Star Wars, I hope the producers of the ST actually do recognize the importance of the Droids and work them (not shoe-horn) into the story. THere is room for both Ball-E and R2/3PO
and really, with all this talk of 'passing the torch' of the OT characters to the ST characters is there really a reason for the droids to pass the proverbial torch? unless there is a sub-plot in the ST about how they are becoming obsolete ;P
maybe thats why lucas wanted michael arndt!! to write something about the droids thats similar to the storyline of andy outgrowing the toys in toy story 3!!! :D
Didn't they put Artoo's memory into a new astromech body in the EU at some point?
Cash wagers only. Payable in full upon release date. ;)
Damn. :(
All the more reason Lucasfilm should bury the hatchet now and unban him from official events. Make an appearance at Celebration happen, so Mr. Prowse can see and hear appreciation from the fans one more time.
George can afford to be gracious and forgiving as well.
Bingowings said:
SilverWook said:
IIRC, they removed backpacks from the sentry robots, because of similarities with the TOS Cylons. Some of the early designs for Maximillian are quite scary.
And if we're going to get into who ripped off who...
;)
PALPATOUS : Lady Threepio.... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiise
Oh yes. I think the Metropolis influence came more from Ralph McQaurrie than George though.
IIRC, they removed backpacks from the sentry robots, because of similarities with the TOS Cylons. Some of the early designs for Maximillian are quite scary. VINCent originally had a very complicated eye design they couldn't get to work properly on set, and the button eyes were substituted at the last minute.
And if we're going to get into who ripped off who...
;)
Bingowings said:
I just hope the people that made this Star Wars knock off:
don't sue ;-D
The Black Hole was in development before Star Wars even came out, and Vincent was already present in the script. Star Wars' success finally got it into production, but I'd hardly call it a knock off.