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#1064624
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What is wrong with... <strong>Attack of the Clones</strong>? - a general discussion thread
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Director Hal Warren’s son is actually trying to copyright the Manos name now, which would complicate things for the surviving cast, (who never got paid to begin with) not to mention the sequel and other derivative works. Manos has been adapted into everything from a stage play to a puppet show in the past decade. It might even force the Blu Ray off the market.

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#1064532
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Should the Prequels be more included into the franchise going forward?
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CatBus said:

DominicCobb said:

CatBus said:

FWIW, I felt TFA had too many PT tie-ins (haven’t seen R1). By “too many”, I mean they were:

  1. not in any way necessary to advance the story or characters, and
  2. more likely to cause a “WTF” reaction from moviegoers who have not committed the PT to memory, which I’d say is a sizeable contingent

As I understand it, there were a few PT references in the film that were just fine–I understand there were flags referencing the PT in one scene, and while those didn’t advance the story or plot, they did not trigger any WTF moments or trip up the viewer–so those are fine by me. On the other hand, needlessly mentioning the Sith (what the hell’s a Sith?) and Clones (weren’t they ancient history at the beginning of Star Wars? Why are they even relevant by the time Episode VII rolls around?)–those just needed to go.

What? Are you serious? Both are throwaway lines. Mentions that should only serve to build a larger, unknown universe for anyone who hasn’t seen the other films. Was mentioning the clone wars a “WTF” moment in the original film?

And who says clones are ancient history? Just because we don’t see them used in the OT doesn’t mean they aren’t still a possibility in the ST timeframe.

I am serious. In the “Sith/Empire/First Order” line, you’ve got two things already established as the Big Bad, and a wacky made up lispy name. One of those things was not like the others, and it definitely made me slow down and say “Wait, what did he say? Sith?”

Same with clones. Had the been any indication at all of clones being a real contemporary thing, no problem. But the last mention was three movies and a whole generation back, and even then it was approaching the age of legends. So the reaction on seeing that was “Wait, are those still around?” And then the movie kept going and it seemed the answer was no, actually we were just jerking you around.

The problem is that they should have been throwaway lines, but they jerked me right out of the movie trying to sort out their relevance. YMMV.

You do know Vader was called a Lord Of The Sith back in the day? I know for sure the Marvel comic used it. As kids, we didn’t really question why it wasn’t spoken in the film, but it was definitely in our lexicon back then.

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#1064523
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Should the Prequels be more included into the franchise going forward?
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Alderaan said:

SilverWook said:
In the context of the conversation about how and why Finn defected, Hux opines clones were better. (Because they obviously can’t disobey orders.) The New Order must have at least considered cloning to raise it’s army before deciding on indoctrinating little kids.

The stormtroopers being clones is a prequel thing, period.

They didn’t call them stormtroopers in the prequels, that’s an Empire thing, period. 😉
The Clone Wars were mentioned in the original film.

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#1064519
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Should the Prequels be more included into the franchise going forward?
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CatBus said:

FWIW, I felt TFA had too many PT tie-ins (haven’t seen R1). By “too many”, I mean they were:

  1. not in any way necessary to advance the story or characters, and
  2. more likely to cause a “WTF” reaction from moviegoers who have not committed the PT to memory, which I’d say is a sizeable contingent

As I understand it, there were a few PT references in the film that were just fine–I understand there were flags referencing the PT in one scene, and while those didn’t advance the story or plot, they did not trigger any WTF moments or trip up the viewer–so those are fine by me. On the other hand, needlessly mentioning the Sith (what the hell’s a Sith?) and Clones (weren’t they ancient history at the beginning of Star Wars? Why are they even relevant by the time Episode VII rolls around?)–those just needed to go.

In the context of the conversation about how and why Finn defected, Hux opines clones were better. (Because they obviously can’t disobey orders.) The New Order must have at least considered cloning to raise it’s army before deciding on indoctrinating little kids.

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#1064440
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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LexX said:

SilverWook said:

What’s really interesting is Kenner totally screwed up, thinking Max had a lower torso behind the keyboard, and that design has stuck ever since.
http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-mysteries-getting-to-the-bottom-of-max-rebo

Even though that is old news, Kenner’s version is still better than those butt-hands.

Still, you’d think Kenner would have learned something from the Blue Snaggletooth incident. 😉

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#1064406
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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dahmage said:

SilverWook said:

What’s really interesting is Kenner totally screwed up, thinking Max had a lower torso behind the keyboard, and that design has stuck ever since.
http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-mysteries-getting-to-the-bottom-of-max-rebo

I almost always learn something new from your posts SilverWook, that is fascinating! can’t wait to pull out that trivia next time i watch ANH. sometimes its fun to play the part of the nerd with glasses. 😃

As do I. Who knew the Max Rebo maquette had a butt crack? They didn’t show that in the old documentaries! 😉

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#1064391
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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ray_afraid said:

SilverWook said:

ray_afraid said:

^ I agree.
Jabba is great (except that his mouth flapping up n’ down doesn’t match the sounds he’s making), but there are a lot of half-assed rubber masks that are too close to the camera and stupid, unbelievable designs like the blue elephant.

Of all the goofy aliens in Jabba’s palace, you pick on Max Rebo? I’ll take Max any day over the fat frog they added for the special edtion, who appears to be sitting on a crapper. 😉

I don’t watch the SE. And the blue elephant clearly stands out as looking fake and silly.

I think you’re confusing his species with Hooter from Captain Eo. Both are blueish, and play a mean keyboard, so it’s understandable. 😉

What’s really interesting is Kenner totally screwed up, thinking Max had a lower torso behind the keyboard, and that design has stuck ever since.
http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-mysteries-getting-to-the-bottom-of-max-rebo