SilverWook

Well he did return in the OT, sort of. 😛

TV’s Frink said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

TV’s Frink said:

There’s a thread for that show.

JEDIT: Wait, someone please tell me they didn’t do it in more than one show.

They did it in more than one show.

Thanks?

He’s finally dead now. Sleep easy.

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

• Also, the horse race was totally prequel-esque and completely unnecessary.

Yes. Assuming you mean horse chase.

The actual horse race was mercifully short compared to the pod race scene. Still a wasted opportunity to bring back these guys. 😉

yhwx said:

Some additional thoughts on the movie:

• I’ve heard this view that Kylo Ren is using typical abuser tactics to try to lure Rey into his reach. He tells her that nobody else cares about her but him; that her parents were poor nobodies who threw her on Jakku without care for her. The truth actually lies somewhere in between. Yes, Rey’s parents were nobody special, but they were paupers unable to retrieve her after, say, a kidnapping.

• This movie really harps on the “true from a certain point of view” Ben says in ROTJ. Both Ren and Rey are right about each other, but only from a certain point of view. Luke’s and Ren’s interpretations of Kylo’s turn were both right from a certain point of view, but it is only at the end that we get the full truth. You can even see the theme again in the point I described above.

• People complain about how much TLJ subverted TFA, but they fail to realize that’s the point of a middle movie; a sequel. The best sequels turn the previous movie on its head and leaves it spinning. Let’s use Empire, the rare sequel that’s better than its predecessor, as a case for this theory. Star Wars starts on a desert planet; Empire starts on an ice planet. Luke is ascendent at the end of SW; he’s despondent at the end of Empire. Ben lied about Luke’s parents. ESB’s full of subversion. That’s what makes it a great movie.

• I think one of the reasons I really liked this film is that it introduced new ideas and interpretations on a great many things, something I don’t think TFA really did. TLJ’s flat-out creativity and boldness made me love it. It chose not to play it safe. I can’t wait to re-watch it soon. As one person said earlier in the thread, it is truly a film that has balls.

• Also, the horse race was totally prequel-esque and completely unnecessary.

Turning the herd loose to create confusion and escape the bad guys is a movie western trope as old as the hills. You can’t pin that one on the prequels. 😉

chyron8472 said:

SilverWook said:

Zak fett said:

Mrebo said:

I liked the Leia scene and I read it as intended: Leia instinctually acted to save her life with the latent powers we know her to have. Maybe the moment was too contrived or the execution a little funny, but it worked for me.

It was a bit out of place, she probably would of died in the explosion and would of exploded in space but who cares it was a way they could keep her alive.

People don’t explode in a vacuum. That’s a movie cliché that has no basis in reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q26aM-ZJFO8

tl;dw: It is theorized that the human body can be subject to the vacuum of space for up to 3 minutes before the subject dies. The sticking point with the film is that the skin and organs should swell a lot. Not 1990’s Total Recall levels of swelling, but still a highly significant amount (like 2x normal size).

AFAIK, it was Outland (1981) that started this human water balloon nonsense. A pity as I like that movie.

Kubrick got it right in 2001

and even gasp Moonraker got it right!

Zak fett said:

Mrebo said:

I liked the Leia scene and I read it as intended: Leia instinctually acted to save her life with the latent powers we know her to have. Maybe the moment was too contrived or the execution a little funny, but it worked for me.

It was a bit out of place, she probably would of died in the explosion and would of exploded in space but who cares it was a way they could keep her alive.

People don’t explode in a vacuum. That’s a movie cliché that has no basis in reality.

TV’s Frink said:

Ryan said:

In ROTJ, I liked the Ewoks. Even remember playing with that Ewok village toy. But after the prequels came out, I learned that there were a sizable group of OT fans who hated the Ewoks. i.e. just there to sell toys, or were too cuddly or something. I can understand people not liking the Ewoks. I do hate the CGI with blinking eyes in the Blu-Rays though. Also wish the Ewoks battle scenes didn’t have that green screen look to them.

But at least the Ewoks weren’t nothing near like Jar Jar.

But I was wondering. Are there any here who hated the Ewoks, but love the Porgs?

I don’t really like the Porgs, and wished they weren’t in the movie. Or at least not the way they used the Porgs for comic relief.

Love is a strong word, but I’m fine with the Porgs. Unless I missed something, they weren’t in half of the movie’s running time, and they didn’t defeat an entire legion of the Emperor’s finest troops with sticks and rocks.

Chewie will discover the ones that stowed away on the Falcon reproduce at an alarming rate, as Rey discovers in the Jedi Knight School texts Porgs naturally absorb all Dark Side energies. Our heroes concoct a daring plan to drop them into every FO installation. The bad guys die screaming as they’re buried in squawking Porgs.

But his original vision! All mapped out in 1973!

Wasn’t he quoted as liking TLJ though?

They’re all turning on each other now? Good. More who will sing like canaries to save their own skin when called to testify.

Mike O said:

My VHS of the first-ever TCM airing has the green opening text, the red WB logo, etc. Looks like it was the DC even back then. Shame on TCM, showing something like that goes against their entire manifesto. Short of this project ever finishing, looks like I’ll never see the theatrical cut. And thus never see this movie. What a fucking shame.

Did you look past that point just to be sure? The lizard shot isn’t that far in.

These idiots seem to have forgotten Luke was going to be a girl at one point. 😉

I don’t understand how these people can be into Star Wars, and spout such nonsense. It’s antithetical to what the OT was all about.

Jeebus said:

Concept art of the casino level.

Marginally related. Feel free to ignore the top part, it’s not really the point of the post.

There seemed to be a distinct lack of previously seen aliens in the casino. Were there any familiar species at all? Not having the Hutts running the place seems like a missed opportunity. Business is probably good for them with the current state of the galaxy.

Yeah, but did they bring it with them?

Snoke actually being tiny might have come off as unintentionally funny though.

Retreating to a sandbox catering primarily to them seems to go against their goals of trying to become mainstream. I doubt Trumpy would create an account there.

clutchins said:

Making of Star Wars, SPFX, and Classic Creatures are all on the Blu-ray. Empire of Dreams is on the bonus DVD from the 04 box set. FSWTJ is on the spleen and Usenet.

From ancient analog video masters that look worse than any previous video release, sadly. The old docs were supposedly remastered for Japanese LD in the 90’s, but nobody apparently bothered to try and find those masters.

Always steal from the best then? 😉

It would be fun to see the fur fly if they did ban him. What are his followers going to do? Piss and moan about it on the very site they would now despise. Not like twitter has any real competition.

Jay said:

NeverarGreat said:

Photorealistic CGI faces are hard. Photorealistic CGI performances are ten times harder, even with really good motion capture. An example from Blade Runner 2049: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV34mT5m0bM

In the side-by-side comparisons, the digital double looks nigh indistinguishable from the original, but translating that into an entirely new performance leaves a lot to be desired. Look at the eyes - human eyes constantly shift and refocus in a dance of micromovements, and you can see the model shifting its eyes in a way that mimics how humans scan another human’s face, but it is still too slow and obvious. Similarly, there is a lack of coordination between the muscles of the face, and that same smooth animated feel. In reality, the muscles of the face are constantly twitching in close coordination to betray the extremely subtle emotions that may not even register to our conscious minds.

All of these problems were apparent in Tarkin and Leia from Rogue One.

Exactly. Most living things, including humans, are twitchy. CGI motion is still too smooth. >The visual fidelity is pretty much there though; once someone nails the motion, CGI >characters will blend almost seamlessly with their real-life counterparts.

And then we’ll be living in the Michael Crichton movie Looker. 😉

suspiciouscoffee said:

MST3K, but movies rated on their own merits.

Space Mutiny - 1.5/5

Overdrawn at the Memory Bank - 0.5/5

Inspired by the See you on the dark side of Raoul! riff, I synchronized the uncut OATMB with Dark Side Of The Moon once. Works even better than The Wizard of Oz. 😉

The sad part is this sort of dick waggling tweet from him doesn’t even shock me anymore.

They tried to kill him with a binary load lifter! Ole!

Frink is the Dream Master. 😉

As Luke struggles to hold onto the antenna thing, cut to the sports bar from AOTC, and have the tv screens scramble or go to snow. The patrons curse and groan loudly.

Hardware Wars did that gag in 1978 already. 😉
Simulated recreation of scene