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ImperialFighter said:

By the way, I can't wait to see what Adywan can do to improve / replace the dreadful 'Tie Fighters exploding in the asteroid crevice' shots!....

Agreed!  I brought that one up what seems like AGES ago now, and is probably the one FX shot I'm looking most forward to seeing fixed. :)

Nice!

adywan said:

ok i have to point out a HUGE problem with using any shots of Jango for Boba Fett in ROTJ. The two costumes are so different. For one it isn't just a case of recolouring the outfit but Bobas armour has a lot of damage on it whereas jangos looks brand new. Adding this texturing to Jangos costume is impossible. Not only that but if you look at the two photos you will see other differences. jango has 2 holsters and Boba has none. Boba has a cape and jango doesn't. They both use different weapons.The belt is different. Jango has leg & shin armour and boba has none. Different boots and probably more but i can't be bothered with spot the difference any more. lol

I certainly wouldn't advise adding Jango scenes to ROTJ to change the way Boba acts.  As I've said before, I think Boba can be axed entirely, with little effect on the overall story aside from Han's measure of revenge (an act from which he receives no reward as Han doesn't realize what he has done).

As far as AOTC goes, depending on the re-working, the names "Jango" and "Boba" may be able to be removed, as well as the entirety of Jango's death.  ( I use the word "may" as this "may" not be possible within the story's context.)  Then it could be said AOTC Jango = OT Boba, just with a different suit.  It is entirely feasable that a bounty hunter of Boba's caliber would alter/upgrade his armament over his long life.  He even has a slightly different look as well as different weapons between ESB and ROTJ after a period of only six months has elapsed.  And the argument that Boba would be too old by ESB is moot; plenty of alien species exist for hundreds of years in the Star Wars universe (wookiees, Yoda, etc.), so who's to say Boba isn't some long-lived humanoid alien as well?  At no pint in the films are we told that Boba Fett is a human with a standard life expectancy of so many years.

The parallel is there in this configuration: Boba shows up in AOTC, kicks ass, then leaves.  He's back in ESB, kicks ass, then leaves again.  Watching the series in order, the viewer would see Boba enter in ESB and think the heroes are in real danger now, after we saw his victory in Ep II.  It adds to the overall mystery and compelling nature of the character.  Of course, this is working with what GL gave us in 2002.  With a competent re-write, we could have gotten a more impactful Boba that could have crossed paths with major characters in a more satisfying way and made his appearance in ESB all the more threatening.  Also, do we really need to see the face underneath the helmet?  Keep the mystery, damnit!  But I digress and return to the ESB:R topic at hand....

Since Christmas was yesterday, I'll just pass on an all-encompassing "Happy Holidays" to everyone here!

Hope everyone has a safe and happy one with your families.

Ady, get better soon.  I was kind of hoping for an X-mas surprise from you again this year, but illness will take that out certainly.  Any plans for a new trailer? :)

adywan said:

As you can see it would be impossible to remove that shot of Han without causing a major problem.

Three words: Ronto screen wipe. :)

And lest not we forget about flipped Fett at Jabba's palace.  That's bugged me since 1983!  Since Lucasfilm filmed new Boba footage for ANH and ROTJ, why coldn't they fix those shots as well?  Oh, yeah, it was half-assed work and not thought out.  That's why we have Adywan in this world, to fix everything that should have been fixed in the first place!

Thanks yet again for getting this out to the community, Ady!  I'll give it a DL tonight and will probably give it a spin this weekend.

Now bring on the Revisited Edition! [clicks over to other thread]

My deepest condolences, Adrian.  Any death can be tragic, but the death of a child seems to hit hardest.  Take all the time you and your family needs.  We'll still be here when you get back.

mike.

Indeed, there is no such limit on the PS3 hard drive itself.  I've copied 4+GB files onto DVD-RW (UDF mode) and transferred them to the HD easily.  I also had a 6GB file I copied from my comuter to the PS3 successfully (took a LONG time over wireless).  And yes, they are readable and watchable! 

Although I haven't done it myself, I suppose one could separate out the m2ts file from Ady's release, copy just that to a DVD-R DL (UDF), insert the disc into the PS3 and copy it to the hard drive in that manner.  This would, of course, waste a disc.  But out of convenience, the film would be on the HD ready to go at any time!

vbangle said:

of course you could of found that out in two seconds using Google in stead of posting here, sounding like an idiot....also I find it funny in the same post you said "spelt"....lol the word is "spelled".

And to continue the internet spell-check-a-thon, it's "could've", not "could of". :)

But, hey, I could care less about the whole thing! ;) 

(And, yes, that's not the correct phrase and I know it.  It bugs the hell out of others here (and myself for that matter), but it seems somehow appropriate.)

Btw, Yoda's looking great Ady....

Alternatively, did you accidentally put ady or others on your "ignore" list perchance?  Might be worth a look.

adywan said:

...then jump right into the FX work.

 

Wow.  Just wow.  I thought the color (or colour as it may be) correction was still ongoing with quite some more work left, but if FX work is impending, all the better!

To Ripplin: Nope.  No region issues with these at all.  There is region coding on Blu-ray actually, but for HD material, NTSC and PAL is a thing of the past.  As long as there are no region markers (which there won't be), the discs Ady is making will be compatible on any PS3 in the world.  The material (DVD-9) on which they're encoded doesn't matter.

Just to clarify: did you do any additional rotoscoping of the lightsabers/laser blasts for this release?  You made mention of it before, but I'm not quite sure if you went ahead with it.

yes. yes I am kidding.

Bill Hunt IS Adywan!  The secret's out.  Lock up your daughters! :)

adywan said:

The red window will be going.

Quick. Easy. Logical.

Boom.  Done. :)

Again, it's all a matter of opinion.

Most of nohandluke's points have merit and (I think) would reside in the majority of Star Wars fans' hearts, but it's his opinion.  -1 believes differently and makes his points.  Both posts seem a little on the argumentative side for those on the opposite side of the fence, however.  I personally don't feel Revenge of the Sith is anywhere close to the quality of The Empire Strikes Back, but to each his own.

I agree with nohandluke for the most part.  In my opinion, ESB (1980) ranks as one of the few movies I consider to be 'perfect' as well.  Yes you can argue technical, creative, and narrative points about the film, but let me explain my position.

Watching the movie for the first time (or one hundredth for some:) ), one can get the emotional and visceral impact of the film.  The pacing is spot on, the direction is great, the cinematography superb, and the music is perfection personified (John Williams best score by far, and a masterpiece of composition from start to finish).  It built on what Star Wars began and brought it to levels unseen.  Star Wars is a great film, but suffers from more technical difficulties than ESB as well as some pacing issues (I've watched with some first timers and they've gotten bored with Tatooine in the beginning; for good or bad they just wanted to get on with the story).  I don't think of the original Star Wars as a perfect film, though.  ESB can slow a little post-Hoth, but the Jedi training is juxtaposed nicely with the Falcon's escape and keeps things interesting and the film moving.

Does ESB function as a stand alone film without SW and ROTJ on either end?  Probably not**.  But those seeing it have already seen Star Wars and the cliff hanger ending makes one want to see Return of the Jedi.  It takes the "heroes always triumph" modality Star Wars maintained and flips it on its head, showing that the bad guys do win sometimes.  This robs the viewer of his or her "always safe" feelings for the protagonist and provides tension for the rest of the show and series.

I think this is why ESB has struck such an emotional chord with people around the world.  It's not a safe movie.  It moves quickly.  A lot of new ideas are presented.  Old notions are explored.  No one is safe.

Again, different tastes for different people, but The Empire Strikes Back simply FEELS like Star Wars to me, and I get the same feeling every time I watch it (a feeling any of the three prequels failed to catch, in my opinion).  It is perfect in my eyes from an overall product standpoint, but with Ady's help, all the little technical nuances that stand out to some will be tweaked and a potentially superior product will come of it.  The original 1980 film will always be the gold standard, but a visually tweaked version performed by a skilled artist with respect for the source will be a welcome addition indeed.

**This would make for an interesting experiment.  Try to find someone who knows nothing about Star Wars.  No Vader, no Luke, no Force, nothing.  Show them The Empire Strikes Back without seeing Star Wars first and then gauge their reaction.  Did they like it?  What impact did it have?  I'd like to see this done some day...

Rendering SD on the new quad should make ESBR available to download in about three days from now!  I can't wait! :)

I haven't looked at the sequence where the Star Destroyers approach Hoth, but when they cut to the interior of the ship, having Hoth located to the left of the screen with no movement doesn't imply to me that they're approaching from the right side of the planet.  The perspective from the bridge would naturally be different than the exterior shot and that may indeed be their viewpoint.  However, if Hoth is "floating" to the left side of the screen in the interior shot, then by all means tweak that as the Destroyer is then headed on a different trajectory than the exterior shot.

I need to reiterate that I don't think any TIEs should be seen flying around Bespin until the Falcon starts its escape for reasons I went into a long time ago in pages far, far away....

edit: post 1272 to be exact :)

Niiicccccce.....

I believe the saga that's up right now is 24 fps, unless they fudged it some way.  It even displays as such on my LCD ("1080p/24" when being fed a 24 fps signal).

As I've got Wookiegroomer's full 12-13 gb saga as well, I'm going to hold off on the remaining films in AVCHD until Ady ups his versions.  It'll be nice to have the color at least a little better than what they are (blue Hoth is driving me nuts!!!).

I've got the ESB AVCHD that was upped to the newsgroups and it looks very nice indeed.  If your encodes will be better quality, I say go for it.  However, if it's negligible, all six will be up shortly anyway (I, IV, and V are available right now, with II and VI going up), so you may be doing redundant work...

It looks like The Phantom Menace AVCHD is going up right now.