shanerjedi said:
ImperialFighter said:
You know, that kinda reminds me about another thing that the prequels ended up blowing - the 'mysterious' and 'whimsical' first appearance of Yoda to moviegoers at that time.... This is lost for anyone new to the saga now, if they feel they have to watch them in numbered 'order', as Yoda's 'first' appearance is anything but now. And that's even before we mention his actual new 'look' in TPM, as it currently stands!
Honestly, I couldve lived without seeing Yoda in the PT at all. Just have his name dropped a couple of times as this great Jedi whose the master of all who lives as a monk and not as a little green frog with a lightsaber.
I mean, the PT wasn't his story. He doesn't make a bit of difference in the end. Even his duel with Palpatine comes to nothing. I was hoping Yoda would be the one to cause Palps disfigurement or inability to mask it to the public anymore(depending on which Palpatine school you adhere to) but no Yoda retreats. He gives up because........? Well, because of NOTHING!
His character is a waste in the entire PT. And they really screwed up his dialogue. Oh boy did they screw that up. He doesn't talk inverted all the time. He does it often but not constantly.
His character and 3PO's were my biggest disappointments for OT characters.
All solid points. I guess you can chalk it up to poor writing and inadequately thought out characters. When you treat the writing process as an eight hour per day job and have no reliance on inspiration or other avenues of thought, then you get the prequels. If you just aren't "in" to the story, maube you should turn the reins over to someone who is....
But I digress.
Let's see...Yoda in TESB: cryptic, wise, old sage who acts crazy and aloof to gauge Luke's mindset and readiness for Jedi training. Yoda in I-III: Window dressing with unnecessary lightsaber twirling, who holds his own against the most powerful Sith in the universe and then runs away with no attempt for retribution even though the fate of the universe is at stake. Plus, it ruins his "surprise" appearance in ESB.
The prequels would have been much better served with entirely new stories, concentrating on Anakin and Obi-Wan. No need for Qui-Gon, Yoda, Jabba, etc. And how about Jango Fett actually being Boba Fett? Then Boba's appearance is all the more powerful in ESB. (I feel I'm repeating myself for some reason).
But this is all served better for a "Re-Writing the Prequels into Something That Builds Upon the Star Wars Universe Instead of Diluting It" thread. :)
As far a Angel's mock-ups for Dagobah enhancement: I like the new trees and a break in the clouds to allow light into certain scenes would add some emotional impact, but I have a feeling that would be hard to accomplish in motion. But if it can, then so be it!
And corellian77's re-edit of the log scene is a solid quick fix that makes it all the more feasible that Yoda could reposition himself. I say to Ady: make this simple, yet effective, change (or at least some variant of it as Impfighter suggests).