May the Force be with you Ady. I wish you all the best!
So I think a potentially really great Luke/Vader moment can be created in editing on the shuttle Tydirium as the crew is apporaching Endor. I think some of the goofy lines in the scene really take away from the drama between Luke/Vader. I think a really cool idea would be to add in one of those really short “force dissolves” you see in Empire.
This is a rough version of the “force connection” I’m talking about. They also replicate this in TLJ with Ben and Leia. But great suggestion! @CarboniteSolo
So I think a potentially really great Luke/Vader moment can be created in editing on the shuttle Tydirium as the crew is apporaching Endor. I think some of the goofy lines in the scene really take away from the drama between Luke/Vader. I think a really cool idea would be to add in one of those really short “force dissolves” you see in Empire.
If possible I’m really looking forward to a “NO PALPATINE CUT”, and just have Episode IX be a sort of short Epilogue to the Saga.
The colors on ESBR:HD are absolutely gorgeous. Seeing the state of the colors on the disney+ side of things is really disheartening especially for ANH, even though they are somewhat better than the blu-rays. I am so happy that Ady is doing the best he can with his color grade, it’s just made me realize how damn important color grading actually is for the overall tone of a film. Don’t have any real insight hear just wanted to say thank you to ADY once again.
Imagine buying this shit only to find that you’re permanently stuck with “macklunkey” in 4K. Jesus
Guys our fanbase has really been put through the ringer when it comes to these Special Edition changes. The new
HAN/GREEDO scene is beyond bizzare. I have no idea why the colors are so muted in the OT. In all honesty there isn’t
gonna be a huge uproar over this anymore because at this point as a community we’ve just been beaten bloody with a stick
so many times. Thank god for Harmy.
Oh my god that’s beautiful. Looks like I’m gonna have to donate more money. I love all you guys but especially you Ady.
Fine. I guess I’m just supposed to shut up and mindlessly expect the film to be manna from heaven.
Why do I care about Star Wars again?
Nah man relax. Didn’t mean to dissuade conversation that’s my bad. It’s ok speak your mind that’s what it’s about here.
Just want people to be fair. Your sentiment is reasonable I just don’t think its good to assume too much. Especially when it’s this early in the game. Just my opinion though the majority would agree with you that’s why I’m kind of defending my point.
I do think it’s fair. Episode IX has an evident lack of Snoke and a sudden appearance of Palpatine. It’s hardly rocket science to connect the two.
Mindlessly hating on a film isn’t the same as articulating genuine issues in its storytelling. Movies shouldn’t be above criticism. Even if most of the online chatter these days is feverish and overzealous, there still ought to be room for reasoned analysis.
Like I said. You’re conclusion about JJ’s creative decision is an assumption. And I’m curious on how you make a reasoned analysis on a film that hasn’t come out yet and is shrouded in secrecy.
Obviously it shouldn’t be above criticism but my point is maybe you think you know more than you actually do, and the film deserves a fair chance at this stage.
Now JJ is back, and is scrambling to do something with Palpatine because he can’t use Snoke anymore. This back-and-forth is leading to successive films where the narrative elements are working against each other, rather than helping each other tell a grander saga.
I don’t think that’s fair. It’s really pretentious to say JJ is “scrambling” to use Palpatine. You literally have zero idea on how he will be used narratively. And you’re just assuming JJ needs to replace Snoke because Rian killed him off. That way of thinking is why fans will hate 9 regardless of quality.
Okay, let’s not give anyone at Lucasfilm provocative nicknames. That doesn’t help at all.
It was satire lol.
In this instance there’s no story. Abrams planted his ‘mystery boxes’ for the sheer heck of it and then left Rian to do whatever the hell he wanted (which he clearly did). By his own admission JJ went into episode 9 thinking “well, I’d better come up with a story…”
I’m not saying it won’t work - I’m really hoping it will - but the fact that these people didn’t think to at least write some kind of overall plot absolutely baffles me…
If you’d done your homework you would know that there has been a story/overarching plot that has been planned. However they have given each film the chance to change things for the sake of creative freedom. This is common knowledge idk where you get your facts. Look up interviews with Adam Driver and “Antichrist” Kennedy.
I really want to get excited for episode IX too, but while the trailer got me pumped to a degree, the string of mediocre live action remakes, and the focus on nostalgia rather than fresh and original story telling dampens my excitement quite a bit. What’s everyone talking about in relation to episode IX? How a dead character is going to return, so more nostalgia. It’s not that I hate the new movies, and I think they’re all entertaining enough, and expect IX will be as well, but the fact that it’s a movie in my favourite franchise is not enough anymore. It’s too easy to blame the fans for all the negativity. There are certainly many bad elements in internet and fan culture, but while watching this drama unfold, I can’t help but feel a sense of dread with this enormous, and powerful media empire now having its fingers in most of our beloved properties, and franchises, trying to get its hands in our wallets month after month. There’s going to be more Star Wars movies, not because it makes narrative sense, but because it makes financial sense. The new movies need to be marketable, and recognizable, but need just enough new elements to keep people interested for the next one. I just can’t view these films in the same light anymore. The context of these films, and how they are made have changed, and I guess so have I. For every mediocre Star Wars film, remake, etc Disney churns out banking on our nostalgia, three or more original movies could have been made, perhaps the Star Wars of this generation, and that makes me sad. Billions of dollars are spent on both sides of the fence running in circles. It’s mind boggling if you really think about it. So, yeah there appears to be a lot of internet bullshit, but I see a lot of it as a symptom of a larger issue.
DrDre thank you for being civilized with your opinions as usual. It makes me angry that not all Star Wars fans can appreciate the ST, and I blame the creators for that. But IMO I do think there is meaningful and valuable storytelling going on thus far. You think that it’s too easy to just blame the fans, I agree with you. But it’s also too easy to blame the “evil kathleen kennedy disney franchise ruining greedy empire” as so many fans have so obviously have stated. Everybody thinks they understand the whole picture. If you look at both directors that being JJ and Rian, from what I have gathered they REALLY do give a shit. I don’t think its fair AT ALL to say none of the new creative vision matters. You can choose to see them as the “evil corporation” ruining my star wars, or you can view it as a group of people who despite common belief were actually given creative freedom. (Or obviously somewhere in the middle) Dre we all know about the modern day remake machine in hollywood, and we know it has infected Disney. But I personally don’t think its fair to say the ST is just a modern remake cash grab. If you personally weren’t emotionally affected by the new stories being told then honestly I wish you were. Dre I know you don’t like the new story, my only hope is that you along with many other fans try giving the story ANOTHER chance. That’s what the movies are ultimately about and its the ONLY reason why they are valuable. Everyone needs to stop carrying in all this extra baggage to these movies which are supposed to bring everybody together (which I know people will find ignorant to say). But this is the last one. Is it too much to ask people for once to stop pointing fingers at each other, come together, and enjoy this classic we all love? None of us would be here on this site if we didn’t have the utmost respect and love for the franchise. My point is, THIS IS IT. The last time we will see these characters we love on screen. The final performance of Carrie Fischer. The end to the saga. The last installment that REALLY MATTERS as far as me or you is concerned. Whether people like it or not, I’m just happy we’ve all had a place to come and discuss this stuff after all these years. I love this site. If anyone has read this far thanks for listening. Peace.
Guys I’m so sick of all the hate. I love you guys here. Even the people who dislike the new films are for the most part civillized. But everywhere else I go I just encounter the hivemind. I just want to be excited for this thing, and I think the whole sequel trilogy has been butchered by the fans. Idk is anyone else just fed up with the all the internet bullshit?
Just got out. Program began with Rogue One introduced by John Knoll. Super neat, but that’s not why you’re here.
What a lucky man. I’m so jealous. It must have been incredible.
It was a great panel, I feel inspired even though I knew most of the facts already. The camera work in Rogue One was very cool and the innovation in ANH never ceases to baffle me. My favorite parts of the panel were when they were reminiscing about the “good old days” working on the models/paintings/custom cameras and sliding on waterslides. Imagine being a hippie and getting to work on star wars. So awesome.
I am so happy for this site’s existence and the despecialized editions for preserving these historical films.
That shot of the falcon was from the special edition it wasn’t even the matte!
I’m more than happy with our quaint little community here. No hype, no acrobatics, just cracking away at our projects.
Couldn’t agree more. I love this place. Its gonna be sad once Rise of Skywalker comes out, I will finally be at peace with star wars. 😉 This community is something to be treasured.
So the livestream is just covering the event and talks with the crew though right?
Live Streaming Event tonight:
Wow thank you Ady!
I am also very interested in the edit. I would love a PM. I had an idea awhile back of somehow creating a narrative using footage from Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker and Killing joke.
I wanted to have it as an epilogue to the series as an end for both Tim and Barbara. Joker would survive though.
So overall, from a technical point of view, Ivan Ortega’s reedit is a clear disappointment. But from a storytelling perspective, it’s a huge improvement and I think it is why so many people seem to be pleased with it.
“Every word of what you just said, was wrong.”
-Luke (Not Jake) Skywalker
Well at least you’re right about it being a clear disappointment. I’m sorry but a years worth of work and stealing peoples money? What a joke!
