SKot

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Post: #220274
Topic: Info & Help Wanted: [<( The Star Wars Trailers Project )>]
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/220274/action/topic#220274
Time: 20-Jun-2006 4:28 PM

I think he meant they were not radio ads but TV ads that he just recorded the audio for, not the video. But with the audio, we could compare that to the TV spots we already know about and see if they were different.

And Sluggo, your new signature quote is hilarious!

--SKot

Post: #220056
Topic: 1977 70mm soundtrack recording (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/220056/action/topic#220056
Time: 19-Jun-2006 9:10 PM

Still, I wonder if that trumpet and the loud, prominent sound effects are simply a matter of proximity to that particular speaker that the sound was mixed through. Hard to tell, but interesting to consider nonetheless.

--SKot

Post: #220055
Topic: //RETURNING TO JEDI\\: NTSC & PAL DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/220055/action/topic#220055
Time: 19-Jun-2006 9:06 PM

This is certainly a fantastic artifact, especially to those of us interested in the cut scenes.

I'd love to have some images of this saber for starwarscutscenes.com - drop me a line at 'skotk at hotmail dot com' if you're interested in having that on the site. I already have some of what little is available there: the matte painting featuring the hillside cave and the ships parked below, and one of the storyboard images. T'bone has a bit more on his site at starwarz.com as well.

I'm still hoping at least something else will show up from this scene - some footage, or at least a production still. Seems Hyperspace ought to have been able to cough up something, but no dice on that.

--SKot

Post: #220030
Topic: Info & Help Wanted: [<( The Star Wars Trailers Project )>]
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/220030/action/topic#220030
Time: 19-Jun-2006 7:28 PM

Originally posted by: morgands1
Not sure if these were on your list, but in Fall 1977, when SW's release was being widened (or re-promoted), several Friday night TV spots appeared, the first of which was the opening blockade runner/star destroyer shot WITHOUT MUSIC, only SFX. I have audio of these.

It would be good to check that audio against the TV spots that we have on the list already to see if they're the same or not. I'm at 'skotk at hotmail dot com'; you can contact myself and/or Sluggo if you want to send it over to one of us.

--SKot

Post: #219987
Topic: .:. MoveAlong's - The Story of Star Wars .:. Complete!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/219987/action/topic#219987
Time: 19-Jun-2006 5:19 PM

Originally posted by: MoveAlong
Seeing as how it's still sealed in the original plastic, I guess we'll never know

. I should try to pick up one of those picture discs some day. They're on ebay all the time.

I should say, the cover is definitely different but I'm sure the recording is not. There is a picture of the booklet on the back cover and it looks exactly the same as the original one as well.

I have two other, regular copies of this as well: the original, well-played and well-scratched copy that I owned back in 1977 or 78, and one I picked up around 1989 or 90 that I think was also sealed in plastic. I remember being pleased that I found one I could play without the scratches, so it definitely has been opened and played since, but being a record collector at that point I took much better care of it. I'm sure I'll pick up the picture disc someday.

And then there was the Star Wars soundtrack. Oddly enough, instead of getting the original soundtrack record for me for a birthday or Christmas present, my aunt bought me the Electric Moog Orchestra version instead by mistake. In the end I'm glad she did, because it was way weirder than the real soundtrack, and contributed to my unique Star Wars childhood in the same way I think that seeing the Holiday Special air long before I ever saw the films did. It also probably explains a few things about my... personality.

--SKot

Post: #219973
Topic: 1977 70mm soundtrack recording (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/219973/action/topic#219973
Time: 19-Jun-2006 4:30 PM

I've only listened to a bunch of the first part, and I didn't hear anything different that I noticed apart from one little thing that sounded strange to me. Right after the Grand Moff Tarkin line that gets cut off, it cuts to the dead Jawa scene... and there is what sounds like a trumpet solo in the soundtrack. It sounded really odd to me, different from what I've heard before, kind of like if someone was playing 'Taps' much too loudly during the scene. I went back and listened to one of the other soundtracks, and the trumpet there did sound different from the 70mm mix. But it could very well just be the placement of the recording equipment and the particular way that trumpet solo was mixed.

I dunno... somebody else take a listen, compare, and see what you think. I'm doubtful that it's anything of significance.

--SKot

Post: #219664
Topic: .:. MoveAlong's - The Story of Star Wars .:. Complete!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/219664/action/topic#219664
Time: 18-Jun-2006 3:50 AM

I just remembered I have a copy of the record, still sealed in the original plastic. But it's different from the one I owned as a child (and still own). The cover is slightly different on the front, and totally different on the back, and it's not a gatefold cover. However, it still has the booklet included, according to the back cover.

There was also a picture disc version of this record as I recall, but I haven't picked up one of those.

--SKot

Post: #219554
Topic: Luke's rope-throwing talents in EP4
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/219554/action/topic#219554
Time: 17-Jun-2006 8:36 PM

Originally posted by: JarHead413
Trust me, I know both movie too well o get them confused, it's just that I can totally imagone that scene in the movie for some reason.

I can imagine quite a bit.

--SKot

Post: #219553
Topic: The Official babyhum Release Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/219553/action/topic#219553
Time: 17-Jun-2006 8:28 PM

Originally posted by: ShiftyEyes

Originally posted by: THX
No "connections" segments on my "Story of Star Wars" DVD.

"Connections" IS the "Story of Star Wars." It's just re-edited into a single program I believe.

I had been wondering if that was the case. They seem like similar programs, but I never managed to snag a copy of that Wal-Mart bonus disc to find out for sure.

Here's some info on "The Story of Star Wars" (video), showing that it was originally released for the VideoNow player:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Story_Of_Star_Wars

A great project would be to collect all of the material from each release of this and put it on a single DVD.

--SKot

Post: #219544
Topic: Info Wanted: 1992 boxset release - Is this widescreen?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/219544/action/topic#219544
Time: 17-Jun-2006 7:54 PM

When a release was widescreen back then, they definitely wanted to brag about it and use it as a selling point. I don't see 'Widescreen' easily visible anywhere on that package, so I'd be really shocked if it was anything but pan and scan.

This looks like the PAL version of the "signature" box set I have, which is definitely not widescreen.

Post: #219541
Topic: 1977 70mm soundtrack recording (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/219541/action/topic#219541
Time: 17-Jun-2006 7:47 PM

Many thanks again, David, for supplying the 70mm mix after it had been missing for so long. It's hard to express just how historically important just a simple recording of this is to preservation efforts.

I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) that your thought was that life is too short to put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into doing any more with this 70mm soundtrack recording that is already inherently flawed. Which I would agree with for your part.

However, there are a good number of incredibly talented people here with time on their hands and the willingness to work who would be more than happy to take your raw recordings and mold them into something amazing, not costing you another penny or moment of your time in the process.

No joke... give these guys a toothpick and they'll build you a mansion! Give it a shot and I'm certain you won't be disappointed.

--SKot

Post: #219251
Topic: STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/219251/action/topic#219251
Time: 16-Jun-2006 9:18 PM

I made my first donation a couple of weeks ago as well. Unfortunately that's all I can do at the moment... I hope it comes back up soon.

Cough it up, folks... you know the cause is worthy!

--SKot

Post: #219247
Topic: The Official babyhum Release Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/219247/action/topic#219247
Time: 16-Jun-2006 9:09 PM

Originally posted by: RowMan
Any chance of using the US releases of the docs to help mask the Japanese subtitles or would that just look bad?

This is totally something I could see ocpmovie doing. I'm sure he'd have no trouble taking a US laserdisc cap (or even a decent VHS cap) of the specials and using them to matte over the Japanese subtitles on those better quality copies. I know he has sworn off Star Wars work for now, but maybe I could poke and persuade him a bit. All I'd need would be a good source for both the Japanese versions and the subtitle-less US versions. Maybe he could give the end product over to babyhum to add menus to for the final release. I'd sure like to see it happen.

In the meantime, I'm pretty sure nobody has mentioned it here so far... the EditDroid crew has quietly released all 4 documentaries along with some other additional material recently. If I can get their okay, I'll drop some more details about it. The transfers are great, but unfortunately they do contain the Japanese subtitles as well. We ought to take this into account in considering what to release, as it goes without saying that the EditDroid team does outstanding work.

--SKot

Post: #219190
Topic: The Official babyhum Release Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/219190/action/topic#219190
Time: 16-Jun-2006 4:59 PM

Finally got the last of bh005 last night... thanks to whoever was seeding that. I'll leave it seeing for a bit since it took me so long to complete it. I now have bh001-bh010 finally. Sorry I can seed any others; I've run out of room on my hard drive and had to burn the rest to disc and delete them.

babyhum, what's next on the agenda after bh011 through bh015 or so? How about the Episode 2 "Connections" special with R2-D2 and C-3PO, has that been preserved anywhere? Seems like you've done most of the other recent TV specials that featured the droids.

--SKot

Post: #219185
Topic: Info: Does Anyone Have The Old Original Theater Bootleg '77 Tape? (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/219185/action/topic#219185
Time: 16-Jun-2006 4:39 PM

I second the request for the Starkiller '77 version to be put up on MySpleen. It's an important document of something that seems to be disappearing more with every passing day, and I think we need something to compare to.

Anybody?

--SKot

Post: #218883
Topic: Help Wanted: with my small OT preservation project ...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218883/action/topic#218883
Time: 15-Jun-2006 2:01 PM

Originally posted by: pittrek
3) Deleted scenes - I have only Deleted Magic and Return Of The Ewok, does anybody have some more scenes ?

As far as the original Star Wars goes, ocpmovie threw pretty much everything we had into those films. Since Return Of The Ewok was later, the cut scenes included on that one are a bit better quality than what's in Deleted Magic.

Also, as I recall, ROTE has the almost-complete widescreen original Jabba scene with Declan Mulholland in it. ocpmovie spent a lot of work on compositing pieces of fullscreen Declan footage over the widescreen digital Jabba footage so the whole thing could be in widescreen, plus all of the chopping up and putting together a few seconds here and a few seconds there from various sources of video and audio. It's still missing a few bits of audio and video, filled in by subtitles and digital Jabba, but it's as complete as it can possibly be at this point from the sources available.

Othere than what's there, we don't really have anything else that was filmed for Star Wars that's made it into the public's hands.

--SKot

Post: #218627
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218627/action/topic#218627
Time: 14-Jun-2006 8:40 PM

Originally posted by: Zion
"No enhancements, no remastering, no 'Episode IV: A New Hope' on the opening crawl Star Wars..."

Well, at least they're still sticking by that conviction. Seemed like they were wavering there for a bit in the beginning.

They definitely must be digging that title crawl out from other elements (a la "Empire of Dreams") and tacking it on to the laserdisc transfer.

--SKot

Post: #218625
Topic: 2006 OT Bonus DVD Material question
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218625/action/topic#218625
Time: 14-Jun-2006 8:34 PM

Originally posted by: Scout trooper
Do you think Lucas will put the documentaries From "Star Wars to Jedi", "The Making of Star Wars" all restored and added in the dvd set this September? As well as the deleted scenes

Those old documentaries aren't likely to see release anytime soon, as they have now been "superceded" by the new "Empire of Dreams" documentary. It's just like with the old Indiana Jones documentaries that have now been superceded by the new documentaries on the bonus disc from the trilogy set, making it unlikely we'll see "Great Stunts" and "The Making of Raiders of the Lost Ark", etc. anytime soon either.

However...

I do believe the deleted scenes will eventually show up. My theory is that there will be double disc sets released for the OT to match the double disc sets for Episodes 1-3, which will include deleted scenes and so forth on the second disc. I'm pretty confident about this, since Lucas likes to mirror previous releases (i.e. the first release of the SW trilogy mirroring the first release of the Indy trilogy). Perhaps at the end of 2007?

The real question is: how will the deleted scenes be presented? Will they be in their raw, unfinished form, or will they be "finished" and digitally added to for the sake of the DVD? My guess is the latter.

--SKot

Post: #218618
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218618/action/topic#218618
Time: 14-Jun-2006 8:03 PM

Originally posted by: Zion
I still don't think anyone would ever attempt to do that. Not only would it take bloody ages, but it would be difficult to keep the contrast from looking distracting.

ocpmovie would do it. He's just crazy enough to bother. But it seems he's washed his hands of SW projects... at least for the time being. Maybe by the time the OOT comes out officially, he'll start thinking about it again. We need his kind of freakishness to help enrich fandom. But at the moment I have to agree his time is better spent with great projects like The Thief and the Cobbler.

--SKot

Post: #218617
Topic: The Official babyhum Release Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218617/action/topic#218617
Time: 14-Jun-2006 7:59 PM

Originally posted by: doublecee
hi,

saw the horizon special as a teenager in 84. With todays news that the model shop has been sold off, I would really like to see it again. But I cant find the torrent anywhere on myspleen. Can anyone help?

Ta

Craig

I'm eagerly awaiting that one as well, but I don't think it's actually been torrented on MySpleen yet. bh001 through bh010 have been up there, but that's as far up as they have gone. I've managed to pull down all of them up to bh010 *except* for bh005, which has been stuck for weeks at 95%. I'm pleading for seeders at this point!

--SKot

Post: #218613
Topic: 'Star Wars: The Interactive Board Game' DVD.......a daveytod release (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218613/action/topic#218613
Time: 14-Jun-2006 7:50 PM

Great to see the project is finished, daveytod! I have both the game and the VHS tape (bought it years ago), but I was unable to attempt any video capturing due to the fact that it has been buried in storage for over five years now. I can't wait to see how it looks, especially since I never had the time to play the game properly.

--SKot

Post: #218379
Topic: Info & Help Wanted: [<( The Star Wars Trailers Project )>]
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218379/action/topic#218379
Time: 13-Jun-2006 10:08 PM

Originally posted by: daveytod
Will you be including the Austin Powers/Phantom Menace trailer?

My vote would be that it would make a great easter egg, but it should definitely not be on the main feature.

--SKot

Post: #218277
Topic: The Chronology of How My love for Lucas has fallen
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218277/action/topic#218277
Time: 13-Jun-2006 4:50 PM

Originally posted by: Darth-Adroit
2004- DVD released and like CO I was hoping it would include both versions (OOT & SE) of the films. The replacement of SS by HC in the force ghost scene reminds me that George doesn’t have a fucking clue what his own story is. If the OT is supposed to be about the redemption of Anakin Skywalker shouldn’t the ghost that appears be the old Anakin? I mean if the ghost is HC was Anakin ever truly redeemed? Was I wrong in thinking that the Jedi in ROTJ was plural? Why do evil people get greater rewards (young, virile 23-year-old Anakin spirit) than loyal Jedi (old, broken down Yoda/Ben spirits) from the living force?

I just had a thought...

To start off with, I've never been in favor of the change to Hayden in ROTJ. It hasn't bothered me as much as many other, but maybe that's because I'd already written off the "new" versions of the trilogy after the 1997 editions. Anything George did after that was nothing more than a curiosity to me.

But here's my take on force ghosts: as I understand it, the spirits of Anakin, Ben Kenobi and Yoda were only being seen by Luke. No one else from the celebration could see them. Even Leia did not seem to see them. Hence, they would likely be seen as only Luke would visualize them. Ben would appear as his old self, as Luke had last seen him. Same with Yoda. Anakin would logically appear as the Anakin that Luke knew--the old, Uncle Fester one. Luke had never seen young Anakin Skywalker, so he wouldn't know who that was. So this makes the change to Hayden's Anakin even more wrong.

My theory says that force ghosts don't have a real form (why would they need one?), and that their appearance is dictated by the person who is able to see them. By that same token, I'm betting that when spectral Ben Kenobi appeared before Luke and Yoda on Dagobah, Luke saw him as old Ben (which was our viewpoint as well), but Yoda saw him young Obi-Wan, as he was when they parted.

Just my two cents.

--SKot

Post: #218271
Topic: The Other side of the 30th Anniversary
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218271/action/topic#218271
Time: 13-Jun-2006 4:17 PM

Originally posted by: Sluggo
So... back to the original question, does anyone think there will be a normal (non-3D) release again? I don't think Lucas will actually ever finish the OT long enough to stop and strike new prints.

I do. Yeah, he'll do the 3D versions, but I'm sure he'll release the regular ones in the theater again. I just can't say when that will be. Maybe the 50th anniversary...

--SKot

Post: #218076
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218076/action/topic#218076
Time: 12-Jun-2006 9:45 PM

Originally posted by: Knightmessenger
Many people have suggested different ways of rendering the special edition discs unusable, throwing them away or sending them back to Lucas. For those of us in Region 1 who really want the official dvd of the originals but don't feel eager to "give in", I have an idea. Why not buy the release that already has the se disc made even worse. In other words, get the pan & scan version.

I'm actually considering this idea... not for the same reasons Knightmessenger posted (as I don't think my buying the fullscreen version of the film will register any kind of message to Lucasfilm at all), but for the simple reason that I'd rather not have two of the exact same things. I already own the 2004 version of the films on DVD in widescreen, so why not get something that's at least *slightly* different? At the very least I would have the pan & scan versions for curiosity value. Some of our forum members have even worked to preserve previous pan & scan editions of the trilogy just for posterity.

It's worth a thought. I haven't decided for sure yet which way I will go, but I'm glad the idea was brought up.

--SKot