SKot

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Post: #228799
Topic: Info & Help Wanted: [<( The Star Wars Trailers Project )>]
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228799/action/topic#228799
Time: 24-Jul-2006 6:38 PM

Originally posted by: andy_k_250
I know this is mainly to collect official Lucasfilm trailers, but will OT.com trailers also be included, such as the ones for Deleted Magic, Building Empire, Returning To Jedi, etc.?

I would say not likely, since those fall under the fan-made category. Plus, collecting just the official trailers is a task unto itself.

--SKot

Post: #228797
Topic: Info & Help Wanted: [<( The Star Wars Trailers Project )>]
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228797/action/topic#228797
Time: 24-Jul-2006 6:37 PM

Originally posted by: Sluggo
Was that the one with just a few still photos that faded in and out? I don't remember that being anything more than a flash movie. I'll put it on the disc if someone can get me a decent copy. Or even a re-creation.

I've got that particular trailer, in the only quality it was ever in (yeah, it is kind of like a flash movie). Hit me up, and I'll see that you get it.

--SKot

Post: #228486
Topic: Preserving the...cringe...Star Wars Holiday Special (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228486/action/topic#228486
Time: 23-Jul-2006 9:24 PM

Ah, that was Alex Newborn that wrote that one. I got a few giggles out of it.

In reality, I think if there's to be any kind of Holiday Special Edition, it will have to come from the fans. One never knows...

--SKot

Post: #227930
Topic: Help: looking for... ROTJ SE 1997 Rough Version ?????
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227930/action/topic#227930
Time: 21-Jul-2006 1:41 PM

There are some little bits and pieces of a b&w rough cut of Star Wars on the 2004 DVD bonus disc documentary. In particular, on the Death Star where Han and Chewie are running down the corridor and the laser bolts are temporarily hand-scratched into the film.

Also, on the Behind The Magic CD there is about 7 minutes of rough cut cantina footage containing some alternate scenes and edits. And the b&w cut footage of Luke and Treadwell on that CD is probably also from the same rough cut.

That's about it, in terms of rough cut footage.

--SKot

Post: #227672
Topic: The Official babyhum Release Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227672/action/topic#227672
Time: 20-Jul-2006 3:10 PM

I found it on MySpleen. I assume it should still be there?

--SKot

Post: #227456
Topic: Rad (1986) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227456/action/topic#227456
Time: 19-Jul-2006 8:20 PM

Dude, that's like... totally RAD!

Go for it! I am very into the idea of this being preserved on DVD. I spent quite a bit of time on a BMX freestyle bike myself back in the mid-80s (when I couldn't get hold of a skateboard), so this one is definitely close to my heart. Along with BMX Bandits, it was about the only BMX movie out there then, and was big news for me at the time. I found BMX Bandits on DVD at a truck stop for 3 bucks a while back--score!

Speaking of Gleaming The Cube, don't forget Thrashin! as well! Both are available on DVD, though, but Rad! still is not.

Sounds like a project.

--SKot

Post: #227452
Topic: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227452/action/topic#227452
Time: 19-Jul-2006 8:03 PM

Originally posted by: ocpmovie
I played the Roger Rabbit game cos I liked Roger ... but it was weird and complicated and hard. Pretty open-ended, which is interesting. I think it WOULD have been good years later with better technology to do the sort of free-wheeling detective story they were aiming for.

On that subject, anybody play the Roger Rabbit "Hare Raising Havoc" game for the Amiga/PC DOS that came out back in 1991? Apparently it was a sequel to the "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" game. The animation and graphics were pretty impressive for the time, but it's nearly impossible to run on a modern PC. Probably easiest to just run it on an Amiga emulator (or even a real Amiga) than try to get the PC version to play ball with Windows XP. Trust me, I've spent quite a bit of time trying to make it work.

I should go try the emulator version out now. It seemed like a really fun game, and I was always frustrated that I couldn't get it to run.

--SKot

Post: #227351
Topic: Ben Burtt's "Special Effects: Anything Can Happen"
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227351/action/topic#227351
Time: 19-Jul-2006 2:47 PM

Originally posted by: Z6PO
You can see short clips of this film on this page.

*That's* the one I was thinking of. Thanks for finding it again.

--SKot

Post: #227337
Topic: Help: looking for... TATOOINE OR BUST
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227337/action/topic#227337
Time: 19-Jul-2006 2:16 PM

Originally posted by: baby hum
They're an upcoming release of mine. When i get the time that is.

Any chance that they could be a part of a separate series of releases, apart from the current ongoing babyhum collection? The reason is, I draw a distinct line between things like 'sanctioned films documenting or pertaining to Star Wars' and 'unsanctioned fan films/documentaries about fans'. These two docs are purely of the latter category. Both types of films have their place, but they really don't belong on the same shelf, so to speak.

Just something to consider. I respect your work greatly, and I don't want to tell you how you should do your releases.

--SKot

Post: #227334
Topic: Star Wars DVD Covers
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227334/action/topic#227334
Time: 19-Jul-2006 2:07 PM

Originally posted by: Falle
I have to ask a question.. Anybody got pictures of the man playing Jabba in IV?

I have some, but I'll have to check them when I get home. I never posted them to starwarscutscenes.com because after it was restored in the SE, it wasn't necessarily a 'deleted scene' anymore. But I've changed my mind; now I find it more important to focus on the scene as it originally was before the CGI, and with actor Declan Mulholland. I intend to put all the pictures I've got up there at some point. In the meantime, I'll see if I've got anything good you can use.

--SKot

Post: #227058
Topic: Ben Burtt's "Special Effects: Anything Can Happen"
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227058/action/topic#227058
Time: 18-Jul-2006 1:30 PM

The only thing I've ever run across is a very short clip out on the web in RealPlayer format. It does show the entire recreated opening scene from Star Wars, which made me happy to see it again. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the link now.

Sad that so many IMAX films have been released to DVD, yet this one has just disappeared. It would be a big seller if they would only put it out. I'd even go see it at the IMAX theater again if they showed it.

I recall it also had desert scenes shot from a bouncing dune buggy as they were going out to film the new shots for the Star Wars Special Edition featuring the stormtrooper patrol.

--SKot

Post: #226476
Topic: Star Wars Holiday Special - the commercials
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/226476/action/topic#226476
Time: 15-Jul-2006 5:53 AM

Originally posted by: Tiptup
Some people have way too much time on their hands.

For every possible thing you can think of, there's a complete freak on the internet somewhere who knows WAY too much about it.

Thank god for that.

--SKot

Post: #226474
Topic: Preserving the...cringe...Star Wars Holiday Special (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/226474/action/topic#226474
Time: 15-Jul-2006 5:32 AM

Originally posted by: Mielr
EDIT: Ok, I checked and it's the KCMO TV5 (kansas city, mo) version. The beginning does seem to be cut off- there's a bit of battle with the star destroyers, then the first line Han speaks is "ok, I'm turning back". That version does seem to start with the pause button on, on the versions I've seen. And yes, the beginning is cut off a little bit, which is the case on most other versions too, unfortunately. But not on the KCCI version - it's totally complete.

So, the KCCI version is the best one?

Hands-down, there's no comparison. It's miles away from the other versions in terms of quality. I'll be surprised if we ever unearth another broadcast copy that's better than the KCCI.

--SKot

Post: #226374
Topic: Star Wars Holiday Special - the commercials
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/226374/action/topic#226374
Time: 14-Jul-2006 8:37 PM

Which broadcast version is that version from Limewire? Check this link for the various versions known:

Holiday Special Versions

The station ID can usually be seen during the cartoon segment.

By the way, most of the commercials were the same for each broadcast throughout the US... but each area had spots for a few local commercials as well that were unique to that broadcast. At some point I hope to do an article on the Holiday Special website about the various commercials that were shown.

--SKot

Post: #226370
Topic: Preserving the...cringe...Star Wars Holiday Special (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/226370/action/topic#226370
Time: 14-Jul-2006 8:06 PM

There is another version as well that is not shown on my Holiday Special versions page which is an edited version of the WCBS New York broadcast. This was also the first one to be touted as being "remastered", I believe. Until the KCCI version showed up, this edited/remastered version was the best quality I had ever seen. Its source was a guy who taped the show himself, and he sold it for quite a few years for $30 a copy.

Here's a breakdown of the differences in this version:

- edited intro: since the opening Falcon shot was missing and some of the beginning footage was messed up, footage from a later Falcon cockpit shot was taken and edited in to fill out the scene. Han says "All right" when he shouldn't here. But the edit is very good, so good that I didn't notice it for quite a while.

- no WCBS logo: this is inherent to the original WCBS broadcast, where the logo was shown during a news promo spot. But since the edited/remastered version does not include commercials, it's otherwise very difficult to tell that it's the WCBS version.

- edited end credits: whoever "remastered" this version dropped in music from the Star Wars soundtrack at the end in place of the soundtrack music that was already there to cover up the announcer's voiceover talking about upcoming programs that appears in all other US broadcast copies. Again, it is very well done, so it took me some time to figure this one out as well.

If you have this copy, you have the second best version that's out there. But it's also not a "true" copy of the Special, in the sense that it's been creatively edited.

--SKot

Post: #225983
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225983/action/topic#225983
Time: 12-Jul-2006 7:19 PM

Originally posted by: trip42
thedigitalbits confirmed it as well

from http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents again:

"We've got some more interesting standard DVD news to report today, starting with a follow-up on that French Star Wars DVD controversy we mentioned the other day. We've gotten a follow-up e-mail from our friend Arnaud at DVDRama in France. He's actually had the chance to see, with his own two eyes, the new Star Wars DVDs being released there, and it turns out Fox France was wrong. Someone in marketing over there apparently still doesn't know what anamorphic means. The special edition versions of the films on Disc One of each set are anamorphic, but the original theatrical editions on Disc Two of each are definitely NOT anamorphic. They're just letterboxed widescreen as we expected. Fox France has apparently apologized for the confusion, and we definitely appreciate Arnaud's efforts in confirming the truth of the situation. So to sum up, France is getting the same sub-par Star Wars DVDs as the rest of us. 'Nuff said."

To emphasize the positive aspects of this obviously disappointing (but not entirely surprising) news, let me say this: at least we have drawn some more attention to the core problem. The fact that there was this much stir over the possibility that an anamorphic version might be released in France just adds fuel to the fire of our cause, because both Fox and LFL have been forced to take notice and respond to it. The awareness continues to be increased. We should continue to voice our dissatisfaction until our request for a decent and worthy transfer of the original unaltered trilogy is finally taken more seriously.

--SKot

Post: #225700
Topic: Fox France confirms the French OOT release >NOT< to be anamorphic
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225700/action/topic#225700
Time: 11-Jul-2006 3:26 PM

Looks like The Digital Bits just confirmed this to be the case at least in France, via an e-mail they received from dvdrama.com.

Let's hope they are planning to follow suit for the rest of the world.

--SKot

Post: #225698
Topic: Fox France confirms the French OOT release >NOT< to be anamorphic
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225698/action/topic#225698
Time: 11-Jul-2006 3:19 PM

Here's the rest of the article translated (did I miss this or did they add this later?):

The DVD of the original version will include the film, THX approved, in a 16:9 and also 4:3 compatible transfer to 2.35 format (hooray for this!), accompanied by Dolby Surround tracks (the original format) in English and French, and by subtitles in the same languages. Regarding the bonus, one will have to be satisfied with an audio commentary on each film in its 2004 version, the remaining DVDs identical to those sold in the preceding box. The fourth bonus DVD available in the box set continues to be exclusive to that release.

Check back soon for confirmation - in images - in the reviews of the three films.

Release France: September 13, 2006, for a limited time until December 31, 2006

I hope they know what they're talking about.

--SKot

Post: #225679
Topic: Fox France confirms the French OOT release >NOT< to be anamorphic
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225679/action/topic#225679
Time: 11-Jul-2006 1:58 PM

Originally posted by: Vigo
Actually, I´m German, but I had French in school, so I can understand quite a bit.

Ah... well, German is my second language (and French I suppose is my third), but I hope you never have to correct my rusty German!

zombie84:
We don't know this is a fake anamorphic transfer. In fact, we don't know anything about it yet. Wait and see before condemning it. Even a fake-anamorphic transfer would likely look better than any "fanamorphic" version any of us could produce. I know that's still not what we really want, but it's a step forward.

--SKot

Post: #225672
Topic: Fox France confirms the French OOT release >NOT< to be anamorphic
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225672/action/topic#225672
Time: 11-Jul-2006 1:42 PM

Here's a slightly more readable version of the translation (I don't have my French dictionary with me, but I've got some experience with translating):

To console you after the defeat of the France's team yesterday evening (which made it possible for the author of these lines to win his bet), our beautiful country gained another type of victory! The original cuts of the first Star Wars trilogy soon available in Region 2 will benefit from a 16:9 compatible transfer! It is certain from now on, confirmed by Fox France who perhaps have, one never knows, heard and passed on to the powers that be the justified laments of fans throughout the world to see the films announced only in 4:3. And to remain chauvinistic until the end, let us also add that the American discs are not yet certain to benefit from the same preferential treatment as well.

Announced for September 13 in France, these editions will each consist of two DVDs: one for the 2004 version, the other for the original version (1977-1980-1983 respectively). The 2004 version DVD will be be the same again as the one available in the box set from a year and a half ago, proposing THX approved film in a 16:9 compatible transfer 4:3 to format 2.35, accompanied by Dolby DIGITAL 5.1 EX tracks in French and English, and subtitles in the same languages.

I half-expect this to happen, but I'm not entirely sure I believe it yet. However, it's quite possible France just got to find out first. The fact is, Lucasfilm would be really foolish at this point to continue with a non-anamorphic transfer after the well-publicized outcry of the fans.

--SKot

EDIT: Oops! Vigo beat me to it. Well, between someone whose first language is English (me), and someone whose first language is French (correct me if I'm wrong, Vigo), you get the drift.

Post: #225659
Topic: Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225659/action/topic#225659
Time: 11-Jul-2006 12:56 PM

Originally posted by: vbangle
That is what is so maddening to the rest of us, Boris....it's like we are all arguing about if the sky is really blue or not....to you it's a shade of purple or maybe green.......NO it's BLUE! ARRRHH!

Boris is colorblind. To him, the sky IS purple, and when he looks at it he sees nothing but purple. Therefore it must be purple, regardless of what the rest of the world says. You will not convince him otherwise.

Boris, it might be time to call it a draw.

--SKot

P.S. - Why is it that Mace Windu is the only one who gets to have a blue lightsaber?

Post: #225473
Topic: "The Fandom Edit" contest
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225473/action/topic#225473
Time: 10-Jul-2006 2:11 PM

This article caused me to emit a loud snort as I tried to stifle my laughter, which in turn caused a curious stare from a co-worker.

I tried to explain it away by claiming it was just a nearby Eopie farting.

"Yippee!!"

--SKot

Post: #225472
Topic: Info Wanted: Has anyone done a Super 8 preservation of Star Wars?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225472/action/topic#225472
Time: 10-Jul-2006 2:00 PM

Originally posted by: Jambe Davdar
I did actually get a a quote from a company willing to transfer the two ESB reels I have. It was a couple of hundred quid and so I decided not to do it at the time. But if we could get a fund together, maybe we could get this done.

What do you think?

JD

About a year or so ago, I had a place in Houston do a transfer to DVD of some 8mm family films I had plus a 16mm Jefferson Starship film which I believed at the time held the footage shot for the Holiday Special (it actually turned out to be a different, but still rare, video from 1976). Cost me something like $35 for about 9 reels of 8mm and $50 for the 16mm reel, plus a bit extra for the digital master I requested for the 16mm film. The results were cool, but were done in the semi-old-fashioned way of projecting the film and recording it (though on digital media), rather than scanning all the frames. While being quite watchable, it's pretty soft on the focus and has that "projected" kind of look. I think I'd like to look into doing the 8mm films later with the frames scanned in for a much better image. It will be much more expensive, I'm sure, but these family films are priceless and I'd like to have them in the best quality possible.

So I guess the question is, what kind of transfer are we talking about here for the Star Wars 8mm reels?

--SKot

Post: #224644
Topic: Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224644/action/topic#224644
Time: 6-Jul-2006 12:48 PM

Originally posted by: Mielr
The censored scenes that were cut from the 1933 version of King Kong only exist today because a film collector "stole" a complete print that would otherwise would have been trashed by the studios. Film studios have a terrible history with preserving their own films. Many silent films are lost forever because the studios felt no need to house them after their theater runs had ended, and actually burned them to retrieve the silver from the silver nitrate film stock. Rebel "smugglers" being the only hope for saving something good when the powers that be decide they know what's best for the masses. Sounds a bit familiar on a couple of different levels...

Thank goodness some people saw the writing on the wall and took matters into their own hands, despite the possible legal ramifications! Although I'm sure a lot of them did it with selfish reasons in mind, in the end saving the films became more important. When it comes to saving important historic films from being destroyed, I think even Lucas himself would have to be grateful to these collectors/"thieves". I just wish he could apply that thinking to his own work.

That's really interesting- thanks! I had no idea that those documents were up on the Smoking Gun. That's kind of shitty that he ratted out on his friends, though. I mean, I have no idea what I would have done in that situation, maybe he was facing jail time- I don't know. I would have told them who sold me the films, sure, but I don't think I could have fingered other collectors.

It sounds like he just decided to be as open and honest as possible about everything, and not hold anything back or hide anything. It probably saved his bacon. Perhaps he really did believe what he was doing was legal. Certainly he never expected the FBI to come knocking on his door. The big question is, who ratted out Roddy, and why?

What do you suppose ended up happening to his collection after it was confiscated? I'd be incredibly angry if I found out it ended up being lost, destroyed, or damaged in the end. But chances are, that's what happened.

--SKot

Post: #224542
Topic: Info & Help Wanted: [<( The Star Wars Trailers Project )>]
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224542/action/topic#224542
Time: 5-Jul-2006 9:01 PM

Sluggo, I've also pretty much finished up my listing of my trailer sources, which I'll e-mail you a copy of. Most of the trailers come from just 3 sources which you should have as well, with a handful of odds and ends out there. You may have some other sources that I don't, and I may have some hiding somewhere I'm unaware of (although I'm pretty sure I combed through everything worth checking). I think we can get at least decent quality on nearly all of them, luckily. I was afraid there might be a couple only found in horrible quality tiny-sized QuickTime files, but even those I think can now be found elsewhere on a DVD.

--SKot