Ronster

Oh yeah I remember that documentary “legends of a world war 2 fairytale” some french guy sorry but his name escapes me has a an alternate version of the film in his possesion. Although it’s still heavily marred by the Special effects guy dying whilst in production.

I totally agree Michael Mann should go back in on that he has done so on everything else pretty much. However “the keep” is probably harder to salvage than dune IMO but not imposdible.

I think with Dune it is all there on film and unreleased but it’s structured incorrectly as in scenes are in the wrong order or trimmed. The Special effects are both tremendous and lackluster bringing a very uneven feel to the visuals.

It seems to me from what I am reading in those articles that the extended TV broadcast is based off Lynch’s 3 hour cut but has incredibly bad audio mixing with 2 pieces of music playing simultaneously on occadion plus the guy who assembled the TV broadcast kept using the same piece of music again and again. The audio mix is completely horrid. So even if David Lynch merely rectified that it would be still a good thing. Putting the correct music back for the scenes would really improve the extended cut.

What remains to be seen is when it comes to the missing scene cards displayed in the film reels is there actual footage or elements for these parts?

The extended TV broadcast simply puts up paintings which look terrible or re-uses a shot over and over. The TV broadcast obviously had zero budget for Special effects hence the lack of blue eyes in all the extended footage.

My feeling is there will be some things that are available and there will be some that are not. I know that the building housing the miniature shooting did indeed burn down during post production. So yeah that posdibly ruined things a bit. There was meant to be more shots of ships and backgrounds placed into the landing fields. A lot of that world building is missing even in the theatrical version.

I’m not suggedting to “George Lucus” the film but it’s clear that it needs some matte painting work based on the production stills.

If they did indeed scan the models and CGI them I can’t see Lynch doing that though. I am far more intetested in the actual scenes with the actors in them but the special effects are the glue in the world building I guess.

There Is a channel on youtube by a guy called “Omnivant” he has being doing work for years on scenes. They look a bit cartoony but I guess these are not final versions. The work on the Ornithopters is rather good.

The other option is to lift model shots from other films to fill those gaps or film new ones. For instance the models from Battle beyond the stars are in around 7 films. Putting them in one more film would not be a big deal either.

That was how I would handle any misding stuff but with always going with actual production drawings and plans over revisionistic choices.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a39749695/david-lynch-dune-directors-cut/

Now there is no project attached to this personally myself yet I have had a little dabble in the past as I have looked at various music cues and possible re-arrangements of scenes amongst gone into depth about what is in the script and is considered still not released and possibly filmed. There are also a great many users and people whom have produced edits and tried various ways to make it either better include discarded material and complete it in a some what better fashion.

What’s interesting Lynch want’s to peek at what was left out of the film and what can be done to reassemble something closer to what he was aiming for… Yet he can not remember much of it but he’s had a change of heart because perhaps he can not remember very well all those years back and exactly a good reason to go back with fresh eyes.

I am pleased he is considering this option.

So although this is not a project here that anyone is doing. I am wondering if we can’t help nudge Lynch in a good direction to perhaps help him find his ultimate directors cut.

I would like the thread to be a resource for The team that work on it should it potentially go ahead which I reckon it will as the invitation has been there a long time for Lynch to do this.

Here’s some resources on Dune-info where you can find the scripts which contain more scenes that have never been released

https://www.duneinfo.com/caladan/cut-scenes

Although it will be Lynch’s Directors Cut what from any cut’s you have seen be it theatrical, extended edition or a fan-edit do you feel worked the best?

When considering the script scenes that are missing things to possibly look forward to mostly in the final act.

1.2nd Stage Navigator?
2.Max Von Sydow death scene Spice Blow
3.Terraforming sub-plot full inclusion
4.Jessicas water of Life sequence Carlo Rambaldi’s puppet Baby Alia opening it’s eyes and saying “Mother” as soon as she is born
5.Patrick Stewart (Gurney) distrusting Paul’s mother as the traitor before learning it was Dr Huey
6.Alia growing up very quick but a misfit in the tribe
7.Sting Killing the Sandakar Captain you can see the bloody remains being hosed away in the film
8.Rabaan in the bath tub prior to the true Guild report not voiced by Kyle Mcglaughlan
9.Nefud Labotomised

These are but a few there are many small things throughout the film that are not quite finished amongst special effects too such as.

1.Extended Dialogue Pauls Training
2.Extended Dialogue Baron get’s Leto’s message and possibly voiced letter to Leto
3.Dr Yueh laser pen to cut open dead Harkonan Soldier
4.Elements missing in certain Composites Dreams in different order
5.Cable Car scene missing shots
6.Signal Lights in the Cliffs and Leto and Thuffer discuss fremen prophecy
7.Jessica cut’s Shadout Mapes
8 Montage with water drops Fremen train, Stilgar show’s paul wind traps with plants.
9. Thuffers Death scene in palace
10. Fremen crowd outside of Arakeen palace
11. A Shot of Sandakar troops in desert at night taken by surprise (Explosion) Paul dodges bullets in the rocks squibs exploding no Laser effects.

This is a good article about the planned 4 hours Directors cut vs the 3 hour Theatrical cut.

https://medium.com/fan-fare/david-lynch-4-hour-dune-1986-9306d41b7f1e

The Extended Broadcast Version was probably close to a Lynch 3 hour cut but Lynch had no hand in asssembling it however he did direct the scenes that were included exclusively in this version and has been a point of great interest for Fan’s of Lynch and Dune Alike.

I was working on the Vader Scene this morning and it’s nearly complete…But I really wanted to test the theory that Luke and Treadwell were indeed catered for by John Williams and I think I got a rough frame work for that and I’d say yeah it’s there… It works and it’s fairly slick.

So here is that test and Frame lock. I also excised the repeated footage and have made this part make more sense it’s a bit slender and some might say “but you cut stuff out!” whilst adding extra too.

Well yes. but this is my system of working and making the film chronological or at least dupes out correct order not really brutal but strict. Workprint.

https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/765298057/privacy

So as stated before the rest of the deleted scene of treadwell and Luke would feature when the Sandcrawler arrives at Lars Homestead (No music required just Sound effects and dialogue.

The shot of Treadwell blowing up does indeed work before Luke’s Realization and goes home in a panic after the Ransacking of the Lars Homestead.

And that is it really. This version will be deleted as my Vimeo is out of space and I already had to delete stuff so it’s a test not a final.

kg1977 said:

Sky_ said:
It’s Always amazing seeing other people tackle this awfully Damaged deleted footage
I can learn a lot from the process you’re doing in certain places on my Repair work

(if directed at me), then Thank you Sky_ …like I said looking at your 2018 kind of got me kickstarted in having a go at it.
I think restoration of this nature is also a process in which yes, you try something and then maybe come back later and try something else or see what others have done and it grows. I definitely understand the needing to walk away from a scene and do another after looking at the same image/s over and over 😃 as I think you may have mentioned in a post.

It’s challenging, that is for sure, sometimes I think these restorations are more work than shooting a new scene from scratch

I appreciate both your hard efforts and fruit572 for the work done so far sometimes only a small snippet of footage can make a scene work much better yet without sound it can also mean nothing. Whilst I don’t want to detract from the great work you guys are doing in anyway. The reason I am posting is to hopefully lessen your workload.

Pacing and timing are something very important and with Raw deleted footage some footage might fall away, similarly a piece of footage you might think is totally insignificant might become important to make something work.

The Footage and the Sound are inseparable however you can have sound without footage and footage without sound and purposefully so yet it is the two in unison that will truly bring these scenes to life.

I think I have found the music cue for Luke Looking at the Space battle through his binoculars… It’s a guess but an educated guess? But it would radically change the start of the film. There are many questions about the start of the film and trying to understand how it might have been originally planned to be put together or what the initial cut looked like and sounded like.

My technique I have developed over the years is similar to a Chinese puzzle where you have a single blank square in order to organize a whole complete picture, yet in this part of the film it is like a Chinese puzzle with many duplicated shots or repeated shots AND scenes in the incorrect order. All of this has to be taken into consideration but when you get say a couple of things right generally the rest starts to fall into place.

The Luke macro binoculars scene in Tattooine 1 may actually of been purposefully intended to be split out across at least 2 or perhaps 3 different parts of the film.

I have a few days off and I will be trying to sort as much as I can.

Be sure though keep up the good work you guys are doing 😃

Well it’s not a music cue because none exists it’s all music editing in the chance to make it work somehow, but wiping from right to left on the walk to the sandcrawler is a good bit of visual storytelling IMO.

The voice line part I fixed is when the crew member shouts “Go!” Making bast’s bit of “plan to” before “break her”

He is talking about the mind probe so is Vader if you go by the audio in the deleted scene. The Holiday Special being actually James Earl Jones and it linking nicely with the ransacking of the Lars homestead. I imean I prefer genuine if possible but it’s hard to achieve in this scene.

It’s another attempt another day. I think I can get it working well at the Sandcrawler if I’m not absoluteley satisfied that it is working I will share the work but I woould be thinking of discarding the scene personally as it was done so already.

Kg1977 I think the best option here is to send you the raw files and fix of Bast’s voice so you can put it wherever you want to. I personally think it’s ruining the film in that position between Garindan and them walking in the Alley It’s clunky and it’s contradicting the plot.

The music won’t mix with Lukes theme that’s why that still image is there.

If the scene comes before the slaughtered Jawa’s, that then leads up to the scene after Cantina where Bast’s line to Vader now makes sense because Tarkin is being Coaxed by others around him to change tactics.

However I will send you the files when I sorted out the gap in the walking and then you can use it with whatever Vader voice Line you want also.

But give me a bit of time as I took a break from that scene for a bit. However I will send you those files and also some other resources you might like or find handy.

Ok I re-upped it as a much shorter clip link below.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/dyh4ovojamgv2fy/Darth_Vader_and_Bast_Mos_Eisley.mp4/file

The reason I made it longer was because I did not want people just to focus on the edit on it’s own but take into account the scene prior where they decide to go off to Alderaan and test the death star. This is what throws the scene into being nonsensical IMO especially Basts comment about Tarkins Foolish plan. So I would ask you watch it with that prior scene in mind and think about what has come before.

When you include this scene It’s pretty Clear that Bast is Talking about the mind probe and not going to Alderaan to “Break her” especially as Vaders undubbed lines also reference the mind probe and not going to Alderaan.

So the other thing is transition out of the scene requires an establishing shot… Vs the scene done at the Sandcrawler the wipe from Vader and Bast to the Sandcrawler seem like they are a perfect match and that transition means something it tells a story.

Anyway hopefully this time it will work.

My feeling is to finalize the soundmix and edit to conform it to the Sandcrawler scene and finalize. It’s practical reality that making a Scene that works vs scene that does not wins out IMO.

EDIT

R2D2 In the Canyon Music and a deleted shot Restored

https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/763806822/privacy

Footage Re-arranged
1 x shot unreversed footage
Cut shot that is R2D2 in the other Canyon when he goes to look for Obiwan
Sound effects at start slightly re-timed
Inserted missing binary Sunset shot referenced in the script to fix the jump cut
Music Restored

It works for me…

Let me know if it won’t download I’ll find another method to get it over to you.

I’d like your feedback… I think the first attempt is the better option. The Script version is clunky and disorganized IMO.

The amount of times I have been on a job, and someone says go by the drawing but the drawing does not adhere to reality. That is the script in a nutshell. It’s a guide and a plan but not the be all and end all or final say. If you don’t get the link DM me and I will pass it over another way.

I suppose the real factor at play is that Mos Eisley version has no Transition in music no music for the scene and no transition out music… All in all a real dog’s breakfast to try and make it work…

Commander Bast and Vader Sound Restored.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/x20vmm37cx44or4/Darth_Vader_and_Bast.mp4/file

I managed to fix Bast’s cut out line when a crew member shouts “go!” using various soundbites of the actor.

This is not 100% complete there is no death star ambience or Darth Vader Breathing sounds and also walking footsteps sounds. It could run a bit longer and I will repost this when I get around to that but for now I think it’s serviceable. If it runs longer then the droids in the hallway also then need sound like the mouse droid and the R2 unit.

I managed to use the cut model shot of the Deathstar too. I did my best with the music I think it works pretty well… Or well enough there is no original music for this scene available.

I did not place it where it is stated to go in the script because it makes no sense in that location. I have a feeling though that where it is stated to go Garindan and the supposed music cue were meant to cut to Vader talking about Leia’s resistance to the mind probe… So that means instead of cutting from the cantina to the tie fighter we cut to R2 and 3P0 hiding storm trooper search then Luke selling the Speeder then the scene with Tarkin and Vader talking about a different form of persuasion to restore the music cue…

https://youtu.be/Lx3k7QF4Avs

EDIT

I cut it as per the script too link for Mos Eisley Version of the scene. It was quite a bit more work to make that transition but I got there in the end.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/t6xpgmoain98zwe/Vader_and_Bast_MOs_Eisley.mp4/file

I think the point of contention is Bast’s Line “Meanwhile we waste time with Governor Tarkin’s foolish plan to break her” Either he is talking about the mind probe or he is talking about going to Alderan to blow it uo. It’s not that much of an important scene but I think personally it works better at the Sandcrawler. Mos Eislet space port is shutdown and the stormtroopers are searching for the droids. Works both before they reach Mos Eisley and during that line.

So I hope that helps you out and others… Enjoy 😃

Ah that is interesting UsernameGeri so we are now talking about a discrepency between the life size model and the actual miniature.

Thankyou for the image from the 3D model from battlefront 2 laser scan and it’s good to finally put that question to bed. Because I was sure there was some sort of problem going on.

I think you did a fantastic job on matching the models and your model and dare say some lego knobbles aside you did a better job with the technology today than what was posdible at the time.

If you ever fancy adding in the missing guns to those overshoulder shots then please post them here.

I would love to see your efforts.

Well done and thanks for clearing that one up for me.

Two thumbs up

adywan said:

Ronster said:

Ok Ady but that is camera pointing into the snowspeeder. that one shot where luke pulls up and away and i am sure if the model was placed under we would see the Speeder outside the cockpit and there is only sky there in the film…

It’s within cockpit overshoulder of pilot shots looking forward i am talking about.

Not camera looking in to snowspeeder front window looking back out towards the gunner.

Ok got the shot I am most suspicious of 7.01 in video below just after Dak get’s killed.

https://youtu.be/BTP-PXeG9Fg

Usernamegeri don’t worry about doing a whole masked in video but that particular shot Luke ovetshoulder pulling up to me feels like we should see the snowspeeder body. Not a torpeedo cockpit.

If you can even do a rough still image I’d like to see it. No probs same boat not much time sorry.

Like i said, that snowpeeder prop was used for ALL the cockpit shots, both front and rear facing.

I am not doubting you Ady or your knowledge but like I was saying I thought you would be able to atleast see the guns of the Speeder on that angle and that image of the model actually has no guns on it.

So perhaps this model was used but if the guns are chopped off the model then we definitely will not see them in the film.

So this is not anything other than trying to ascertain when we look forward would we see the guns?

I remember the old games where although you saw the cockpit view in the film like POV the guns would stick out either side on the bottom corners.

Now these guns on the snowspeeder do stick out a long way forward. It’s not the biggest deal in the world but it’s a bit of fun.

And if the games are right that we should see them then I think it would be good to see them in the film… But I tried this previously and I could not work out the angles even with a still image plus I did not have a snowspeeder or skills like yourself or usernamegeri.

So I’ll rephrase my question to “if the guns on the model were not chopped off would we see them in the film”

Honestly been a long time question I have had. And UsernameGeri has all the knowledge about the angles.

Ok Ady but that is camera pointing into the snowspeeder. that one shot where luke pulls up and away and i am sure if the model was placed under we would see the Speeder outside the cockpit and there is only sky there in the film…

It’s within cockpit overshoulder of pilot shots looking forward i am talking about.

Not camera looking in to snowspeeder front window looking back out towards the gunner.

Ok got the shot I am most suspicious of 7.01 in video below just after Dak get’s killed.

https://youtu.be/BTP-PXeG9Fg

Usernamegeri don’t worry about doing a whole masked in video but that particular shot Luke ovetshoulder pulling up to me feels like we should see the snowspeeder body. Not a torpeedo cockpit.

If you can even do a rough still image I’d like to see it. No probs same boat not much time sorry.

That looks really good.

I’m guessing that took a while?

Can I make a suggestion?

Instead of replacing the people in the cockpits… add the missing exterior snowspeeder to the cockpit angles.

I am pretty sure the actual cockpit used to film the scenes was just a sort of torpedo shape. There was not any snowspeeder attached to a gimble.

The ones on the hoth set were mounted on forklifts if I recall correctly but they were not used for the cockpit stuff.

So it would seem the front and the guns are missing from a lot of those shots. If it’s something you fancy taking on? It’s the forward facing over shoulder pilot shots that are the ones.

You did a great job by the way.

Could you also give us an exterior shot of them flying out the base on the matte painting? If ylu feel like it?

Well my thoughts were have the scene play out with a shot of treadwell looking over just before Luke on the Speeder shooting off then probably wipe straight to the end of the Special edition Sandcrawler shot and try to do the Halting shot of it arriving.

Although it sounds forced and a bad idea I think treadwell being shot would work well too. It relies though on this scene being present and the bit of dialogue for it to mean something. It would obviously be just 2 seconds and a glimpse of what was happening before Luke again speeds off.

It also plays on Treadwell not wanting to go meet the sandcrawler perhaps to get sold off too.was it a tragic decision to stay on the farm? It’s a little story but it comes full circle then.

I kind of see the original theatrical version as the film and final cut but the Special edition as the opportunity to try and tell the story better but not exactly how the Special edition did that. I don’t mind updated matte paintings and CGI ships they have zero effect on characters and story just look better in instances.

CGI Dinosaurs and poorly done slapstick get outta here. I don’t want puppets becoming CGI iterations for instance thst is horrid.

So I ended up watching my own clip on the landspeeder search quite a few times.

So perhaps I need to change the speed on the rearview of the video to make 3p0 looking over to the right. That was really hard to make that work.

So we got the music restored over R2-D2 in the canyon which allows the build up to the raiders on the cliff.

But can you now see what I mean about the Bantha footage. Good spot by the wsy on the guys on the ledge before they leap.

So the tuskan raider leaps on with that cool bit of restored music.

Basically my thoughts are cut the music away for Tuskan raider struggling and him also.

Use the short drum beat cue for the tuskan raider running on the ledge.

Cut to mounted tuskan raiders with the call that he makes bit like a donkey.

Now it very much depends on that scratched shot of the bantha being cleaned up to restore the music cue. How well can that clean up?

Did you notice the shot was timed a little different to the music in the film where the Banthas footstomp goes inbetween the drums and the bass note starts on the shot of luke and 3p0 finding R2D2?

That is the proper restored music cue.

Also going back to the treadwell droid just thinking how the special edition Sandcrawler Shot might look through binoculars? Then simply put to luke running past treadwell and treadwell does his repairs thing. The good news is if that worked which I reckon it would I have that whole soundmix without any music. One of the hardest things was to find alternate treadwell sounds. I don’t reckon he should blow up either but It is a nice subtle gag that at least treadwell is smart enough to not want to be around the Jawas to perhaps get sold off. That makes that scene a whole lot better.

Also with the Special edition Sandcrawler shot I am thinking so on the Binoculars it is zoomed out to appear far away filling the scope of the binoculars.

Then end of the shot where the Sandcrawler is against the Sky could be used to show the Sandcrawler coming to a halt. It could be an interesting animation to roack it back and forward a bit rotate it back and forth then cut to inside “wake up!” It could be given a weighty feel and again tell the story much better using that one shot in two very different ways.

I just got to wondering on the shot where treadwell blows up… was it a quick insert after Luke says “that would lead them back home” composite laser fire treadwell blows up Obiwan “wait Luke it’s too dangerous” cue the music Luke jumps in Landspeeder. The droids were not there…

Just for the record a little known deleted scene for the slaughtered Jawas was am establishing shot referenced in the script of smoke rising behind a landscape before we cut to that first shot.

I spent quite a bit of time on the audio for terminator because although the original soundmix is better it stil sounds a bit crap and thete is a lot of music missing and it has severe problems with the bottom end.

I can share a complete audio mix of the film for anyone intetested.

It has various fixes and unused music.

I am a bit busy right now so don’t expect the file immediately but if you message I will get it over to you and you can make a choice on it or use parts of it or whatever.

There was a few things I wanted to address for which I never got around to doing.

So the audio mix is the audio mix I did.

But in terms of problems I could clearly see.

There were numerous moments when the terminator vision was not aplied when it should have been.

There was no footage for the 2nd sarah connor that was killed. Was planning on some shots from lou diamond phillips movie the 5th sign or something. Same kind of look.

Reese drives into the parking lot to avoid a police helicopter search. No budget for that… see how that would tie in with the hunter killers and the search lights. I was going for some shots out of blue thunder for that one.

All deleted scenes wrre going to be reinserted but I wanted to make a regurgitated loop with arnie asembled and going back after the credits so it would be a perpetual loop in time that would happen again and again and never stop ever.

I got the video which reference the text used in the terminator vision from some IT magazine. It’s all doable to restore the film as it’s meant to be.

Anyway PM me if you want my audio job on the theatrical mix. All music restored with the sound effects and dialogue too.

If you like the Idea I proposed let’s sort it out. It’s not too difficult to sort this film out.

There is however much music that either…

1. Does not sound correct.

2. Has only half the channel. i.e the mono was mixed irrespective of the right channel for some music. There is a lot of sound missing and the right channel was ousted for left so it’s not complete.

There were a few tracks especially the arm repar and schwarzenegger looking out across the city which were especially bad (only half the sound).

Bingowings said:

It’s difficult to visualise without some sort of pointer. But it sounds intriguing. I would love to see a rough cut of these ideas.

Hopefully by Christmas or January…

My Vimeo account has no space and that would be 20 odd minutes to resolve a macro edit like that.

You got fairly clear instructions if you want to have a go at that though.

Strange as this may sound I think I’m hearing a music cue for the death star blowing up at the end of Empire strikes back trailer.think it’s simply tie fighter attack music but certainly would be a good insert. It’s not in the score or any notes to my knowledge but then again neither is the short piece for when Han says good luck to Luke on Yavin that is totally not released it’s only found in the radio drama.

That is fair enough…

Shoot me a PM on it but just keep it brief. I don’t have much time atm.

If in fact this music spotting video is correct then there are a few obvious answers for some of the blanks that I feel don’t require storyboards anyway.

For instance sone big blanks would have been tie fighter pilots in cockpit I reckon. Re-used from ANH.

A shot of the falcons engines failing is another obvious shot.

Holding still on the hole the falcon flies into I think would be another

Yet there is less obvious ones too.

Good work certainly Interesting to see how it was shortened.

I came across a video recently of the Asteroid chase from empire strikes back which has the footage timed to the music spotting.

https://vimeo.com/328696041?ref=tw-share

I wonder if you could shed any light on this with storyboards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHEFkHm20KQ

It seems like there are a few shots missing?

Alternatively the music is out of alignment in places?

Combination of the above two things?

Some footage is at the wrong speed?

The person who did the video has the music at the wrong speed?

I am going to hold off on posting a Resource Package today as I need a rest but for now…

This is an interesting unused matte painting from Empire where the Ceiling was meant to collapse.

https://uk.propstoreauction.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/78/lot/18545/

It might however meant to be another layer above the Cracks in the ceiling that are all in black and never got comped in…

Here is my rough cut for the Landspeeder search

https://www.mediafire.com/file/vxr1q5ljuzsh33l/Landspeeder_searcg_prefinal%25281%2529.mp4/file

It still needs a bit of work

There is an audio fix for the binoculars zoom as the film is out of synch in this part as there is too many frames however when I replaced 3P0’s Hannah Barbara scream voice with Antony Daniels voice I go out of synch for when Luke get’s hit in the chest.

I can fix that though no problems.

Here was my first and only attempt at the treadwell droid sequence…

https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/393507627

This was my finished Tosche station 2 soundmix

https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/660660652

Good news I look forward to the Update on this, sounds pretty exciting. Sorry for your loss over recent times.

This Empire Strikes Back Trailer has a lot of Deleted footage in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWLksS3wtWA

The Best bit however is Chewie Whacking the Storm Trooper In my Opinion But there is quite a few shots in it.

Next one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nccmNk8gsOc

This is the trailer with the Wampa Claw Deleted scene which is a Brilliant shot.

Then the next one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLhsM1NFKew

The Vivaldi Trailer This perhaps the best shot of the Shield generator Explosion?

The last one I think is the teaser which is Raplh McQuarrie stills

Ok heres some info regarding scene orders in the death star and I said it was “Vader hunting down obiwan”

So what I did I removed the cut away in between the lift doors when Han and Luke are taking Chewie to the cellblock. So that is now one continuous sequence.

The deactivation of the shield generator is now one continous sequence with the scene outside the garbage masher coming afterwards.

Then I put the scene of Obiwan in the hallway and Vader wandering around.

Then everything else continue as normal.

Because we see a shot of Obiwan going past where darth Vader was it feels more like Obiwan understands the dangers the rest of the group are in and he is desperately hunting down Vader to stop him before he get’s to then.

So from what I initially percieved it was meant to be “Vader hunting down Obiwan”. It actually in this rearrangement came off more complex and rousing in another way.

I am not suggesting that this is what you should do but it was an interesting alternative and something nobody has ever as far as I am aware thought about making these scenes unbroken with the Vader and Obiwan scenes coming later.

It was a simple edit and it works. It’s different and i think it is a marginal improvement.

kg1977 said:

7. Search for R2 (POV in the Speeder) - 60% [SAMPLE IMAGE BELOW]
   
8. Extended sandpeople mounting their Banthas - complete

I nearly have this scene completed although I thought it was really clunky initially however it is not.

I have improved the film in this part and I have not too because I wanted to see how it should play or could.

I planned to go again on this but my feelings are only the opening wide shot and the first conversation.

In terms of structure I have it but when I initially did the edit I tried to put in a bit too much in.

I have created the elements for the missing shot of the Landspeeder Scanner for which I still never got around to playing with to this day… still.

It could however use an additional shot of Banthas for the leaping on group of Sand people though from the ridge. I can share my rough cut with you on this… Just wondering on the scratch removal front how well the Bantha footage would clean up as in the shot of the one going along the ridge. The guys struggling to mount the Bantha are terrible please don’t bother cleaning that up!

But it is plausible that the other struggling group already sitting up there from this point was meant to be in the film… we continue with the Sandpeople that lept on along the ridge and then back to the shot in the film of the second group cpming toward camera.

Although there is music for the struggling sand people getting up there it is bad and cutting it was a good move. The thing is though the music is totally wrong in this part and that is the main motivation to get it working better.

This also relates to the music being wrong in the Jawas capturing R2D2 in the canyon and restoring that so it’s an edit of 2 parts.

The expanded opening scene is not really how it’s meant to play out.

It’s part of the probe droid scene outside the base.

A few things get shifted about like the probe droid scene near the shield generator comes before the shots inside the command center with riekan. They are meant to be listening to an outpost gun turret radio transmission when it get’s cut off.

Then the scene with the probe droid destroying the gun turret as you have but with the cut music and sound effect.

Next come a shot of snowspeeders.

Than Han and chewie face off against the probe droid.

I like your work though looks good the Luke training scene. Keep it up.

I can send you a video about the probe droid sequence.

https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/156984006

There are quite a few missing Special effects shots in Empire and a whole deleted gun battle between Bespin guards and the Stormtroopers although it is unclear if it was ever put on film but it is in the script.

You should try to find the music spotting score to footage for the Asteroid chase so many shots missing…

Found it for you

https://vimeo.com/328696041?ref=tw-share

This is the footage put to how the music was scored to the film with black for the blanks. In fact this is more outlandish than anything I ever thought was missing but I knew it had stuff missing.

Using the music score as a guide I identified the following.

The snowspeeders are shown taking off out of Echo base
The falcon is shown lifting off and the Doors were to also open just in time
Space slug sequence slightly in wrong order “Cave Collapsing POV cockpit shot missing”
Falcon is shown flying towards Bespin in Space from the Iris Wipe then that flows into a drop through the clouds to the shot in the film.
music wrong on rescueing luke from under cloud city and Lando saving Luke missing.

Also When Luke crashes in the Swawp it was meant to cut to R2-D2 complaining on the subtitle readout whilst luke say’s “how you doing back there?” or something like that. More Buddy movie it comes off a bit weird the way it’s cut in the film. That is in the script too.

There is a good few videos on my channel that can help you out a bit… You decide but you can use the audio and copy any edits if you choose to.

The Wampa attack on Echo Base looks like one of those scenes that will be like a black hole…I’d personally save my sanity on that one 😃

Hope that helps.