Handbrake won’t do URL’s but it’s good for converting video to mp4 or mkv.
Well perhaps don’t put .com in just google “y2mate” and it should be ok and take you to legit site.
There is a detail that you have missed in that clip where treadwell extends his welding arm to repair the moisture vaporater. This is animation based effect where the extended arm is paused to composite the welding effect on the droids arm.
I actually plan to back later and work more on that clip. I will need to see that missing part is, I did not think I left out any scene
It’s there where Luke runs off screen past treadwell to the landspeeder. Treadwell droid lifts and drops his arm.
You need to pause the frame of the video where his arm is fully extended then composite sparks on the still image once he is done repairs continue the video and his arm drops back down. Magic.
Guys, how do you go about downloading youtube videos? screen capture or just a converter somewhere? my laptop’s screen recorder is terrible and the website I usually go to for conversions got rid of its URL uploader.
Y2mate.com Is where I normally go to for general URL downloads. It is still active.
There is a Vimeo URL downloader too but I can not remember the name of the site. Just google vimeo downloader.
You can use OBS studio for decent screencapture it’s free app it will only handle up to 2 video sources.
With reference to Luke and the treadwell droid and Luke peering up at the sky. This scene as a whole sequence is not needed. The following deleted scene at tosche station explains he saw firing in the sky. We as the audience experienced this in the opening shots. We know Luke is telling the truth even though his friends do not believe him.
In film making it is often best rather than force something that does not work at all and cram it in, perhaps ruining the way it works already it is much better to re-purpose material to create something else from it.
There is a detail that you have missed in that clip where treadwell extends his welding arm to repair the moisture vaporater. This is animation based effect where the extended arm is paused to composite the welding effect on the droids arm.
So although the Tosche stations scenes work in there own right without this scene attached it would be better to use this scene partially.
After the stormtroopers in the desert “look sir droids” it could be better to create a bridge by cutting to treadwell here reparing the vaporator without Luke at all Then after he finishes his repairs he looks around and spots the sandcrawler approaching in the distance towards the lars homestead. Using this scene in this way would connect the Farm to where the Sandcrawler is approaching.
And that is probably how I would use that scene simply to create a bit of location awareness and set the scene that is to follow.
Great work Fruit672 it’s been one of those bits of star wars history that although not well known internationally is something important in it’s own right.
I will watch with interest for the result on this, What ever source you fiddle with to try to get a decent output result.
Yes Stacking sources is an interesting technique it’s something I actually am wanting to do at this moment to experiment with 2 sources on the Cantina regarding black crush.
Burnt out and very little time at the moment with work comitments I will try and sort some clips out Saturday this week and various resources I have.
Thanks for your efforts.
I have been looking at the deleted holochess pieces stop motion animation too… I think it is incomplete. However they would line up with the angle that R2D2 is positioned aboard the death star. Either the background was not comped or it’s uncropped cutting off the discrepency at the top and the chess pieces were simply not comped in … However the whole idea about not showing the arm being chopped off in the Cantina got me thinking about “droids don’t rip peoples arms out of their sockets when they lose… Wookies have been known to do that” and although I even have my doubts about this particular idea being plausible as being correct. It might actually work or it might not. It’s another thing to try out ontop of a cantina alternative. I am most curious though about the missing chess pieces put ontop of R2-D2’s chest.
Going back to the devil or guy with horns too… What is the black thing that passes in front of his face? It looks like an optical wipe but to nothing. It feels like a strange optical error or a missing splice… Like the insert shot is missing from the splice.
Oh yeah and Luke ordering a drink I think I could just make out him saying “I’ll have one of those” almost totally inaudible. I am curious if this was more audible or easy to catch in another release as I don’t think it’s present in the Special edition at all. At this point it has become a bit of a missing Line.
It depends how big the screen you have is.
Once you start to hit 65" to 96" 4k will help a lot to maintain detail at larger screen sizes.
HD would still be acceptable but really the larger you go you really neeed to maintain resolution comparable to size of the screen surface.
Generally people don’t have space for such large screens in their homes whilst 4k can still be enjoyable on lower size screens essentially 4k is negligable or won’t provide anything worthwhile probably under 40" screen size.
Based on being a reasonable / normal viewing distance from the screen display.
Out of curiosity reference the cantina…
How well would the drunk driving PSA advert upscale for the cantina band shots?
The reason I ask is those shots are passable as being accurate where as the holiday Special shots are not location acurate such as the lack of window behind them and positioning of the band members.
The footage is not the best from that advert.
Yea this definitely would be a shot out to the creature makers, service to the fans…however interpreted. What I plan to do is finish the scenes cut them together and see what works, what is shortened, what does not flow. With cantina if the cuts has music behind them it is a little more interesting. After seeing this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGpf4U_JKhE
I was motivated to how close one could make a video version that showed everyone in that bar…hopefully it ends working out and flows well from a timing standpoint. 😃
HEM DAZON from that youtube clip he pops up into frame… It could just be a color issue however he looks pretty black and in every other clip he is a kind of dark red with some highlights… definiyely lacking contour and definition on him.
I think it is a fun idea you have note in that youtube clip also that guy states who he thinks is Greedo Is. I have to say I agree with him. This shot should go just before the conversation about hiring Han then you can pair greedo and han’s audio together so it’s connective tissue. “Nice moves old man” whilst Greedo looks over. Even if you don’t pair that down… that greedo shot only makes sense at that point before the bargaining happens.
Like you said using the shot’s of the Band as the glue to add extra scenes Is a good approach. It seems though that Wolfman sit’s in many places at the same time so that may mean again the shots are in the wrong order especially that first shot is for somewhere else too more than likely. It always seemed that the Band should be the first shot of the sequence then off around the bar that would make cinematic sense.
The Colorization looks good too. Well Done so far…
Oh yeah the laugh we hear on the guy with the horns whom is smiling seems to be for that character he laughs at the bar in the Holiday Special… I would assume that he was the focus of that shot at one point before being swapped to the guy with horns. I don’t see that as a problem just an observation.
I really want to find audio for Luke ordering a drink too.
EDIT
Just a final thought…
Informant guy freaks out at Lightsaber killing at the bar
HEM DAZON is he supposed to be getting up after Luke is flung across the bar because he was knocked over?
He pops up looks down and makes an irkish noise. I have that sound effect isolated in good quality.
Guy with horns has a gun pulled on Obiwan… Obiwan glances over Lightsaber lit “Do you want some as well?”. Guy with horns smiles. Lightsaber extinguished.
If done like this that would make any sight of lopped of limbs or body parts implied rather than shown and considering what is shown it may be better left to the imagination.
I am going to try this out though…One day when I get time.
That’s really good… Han looks a bit dull but Leia looks pretty realistically colored and the background is good too.
Yeah that is the guy however the rough cut has no wipe to outside.
Some of these shots are in color and ok quality I actually seemed to have found an alternate take of that guy freaking out in reaction to the lightsaber fight. So there is another way around that issue without having to colorize black and white footage.
Most things that were earmarked for use ended up in color.
extra shot of the two Duros arguing etc
Praying manntis guy
Jenny and Han kiss
There are 2 more also shot of the gas mask guy by the Bar
Dr Evanzan approaching Luke before he say “He does’nt like you”
The thing is that that very first puppet in the cantina film version was unfinished it’s most likely a test shot as in the PSA drunk driving comercial and the holiday special you see him with proper skin rather than black fabric they had the eyes done but not the skin simply a fabric wrap. It would be amazing to somehow finish him off like he is meant to look.
The Cantina Band was done in pick up shoot with the wolfman and various other bits. I was not aware of extra shots of these guys.
Anyway it is a fun scene but scenes are not always in the right order and to restore Han’s dialogue “Nice moves Old man” can be done without having to restore the footage of that scene.
There are always alternatives said Obiwan 😃
Pairing things down helps things flow quicker so The film makers will try to get an amazing result with as little work as possible not saying it was not hard work but you don’t want extra work if you can avoid it. you should think the same way.
Loving the colorized cantina shot there…
I think with anything like a rough cut which that is from of the cantina scene there are things that are not so important.
There is however one particular part of the rough cut where Obiwan goes past the bar with Chewbacca and the informant then walks away to the left behind chewbacca.
This would have helped tell the story better, as the wipe would have came a small bit later so that particular scene extension is probably vastly more important than anything else in that part. As when we wipe to outside we can identify he is either a spy or even a disgruntled pilot who is down on his luck and jealous.
Small snippets can make a big difference in a good way where as sometimes whole sequences can be difficult and cumbersome.
I might send you a few clips if you don’t mind later on that you might not have…
Anyway keep up the good work.
I’ve been looking at stuff with this film recently again and I very much want to start my own edit of Star Wars again however I want to use a few of your shots from the old version if you are ok with that?
The Pay off here is in credible information.
So in the battle of yavin the porkins “I have a problem here” is actually pertaining to the shots that come prior… “Watch out there is a lot of fire coming frim the right side of that deflection tower”
The x-wing pulling away from the surface goes here up until the flash frame. Porkins now says “I have a problem here” then we cut from the end of the flash frame to the x - wing pulling up and away. This matches the angle of the cockpit shots for porkins too.
On the flipside of this the sequence where we hear gold leader say “Watch out there’s a lot of fire coming from the right side of that deflection tower” before this should actually be the death star gunner shot and the lasers in the sky albeit with a deflection tower composited in with those lasers in the sky.
This is 100% legit pertaining to the theatrical soundmix and what would match.
The special edition accomodated this change in the sound mix to make the moved scenes work however the moved scenes do not work because Luke confirms he is going after the gunner and biggs is going after the deflection tower. Placing the gunner scene and Luke saying " I’m on it" makes sense that falls into place. As far as porkins demise is concirned it’s much better but it feels a bit off but also does not. It could be that the shot was not meant to be splced in 2 at the flash frame… i.e the continuous shot is presented as is then "I have a problem here then biggs says “pull up!”
This is the theatrical soundmix telling a story of what was supposed to be…
The nect point I want to make to you is about Vader tracking down Obiwan on the deathstar cortidors… Now I don’t know about this at all but after having watched it a few times it struck me on a macro level that Vader honing down on Obiwan was changed…
The point of realisation was the closing doors wipe shot betwwen “you came in that theng? You’re braver than I thought” and the storm trooper chase… Also spltting the the tractor beam deactivation in two.
Without experimenting I can not know how it should be but I am seeing a clanger and for good reason. It’s definitely scenes in the wrong order. Or very slihtly wrong order. It’s not bad but I know can be better… I have yet to look at this but my gut tells me it was made a mess in editing. It makes luttle sense. Most things are micro level but the dearh star hunt by Vader looking for Obiwan goes macro level and I am starting to believe it actually can be far better.
Comparing the 2 sources there is more detail in the shadows particularly on the over shoulder shots of Owen looking towards 3p0 with the Sandcrawler in the background, whilst not the focus of the shot I can clearly see a bit more in the shadows surrounding the tank traps. not a big deal at all.
once we start getting to the iglu like homestead I noticed the old Blu ray has a pink blob / haze for which made it one of the worst shots to color correct in my opinion been there since forever really… looks like the 2020 version did something about that however you have added blue highlight to the top of the dome in something you did.
I prefer the saturation of the 2020 version but with the color change you have done.
This is the best quality of the Star Wars recreation segment I have seen.
Is the Criterion version not an authentic US cut?
Yes this was the western market international version.
What’s the difference between the US and Criterion US cut?
Nothing it’s the international and the Chinese versions.
I ended up watching my edit V1 of enter the dragon last night. There was a good reason for the version 2 which is now lost as there were times where the audio synch was not correct.
V2 fixed this however V1 did not feature the Han vs Williams Edit whilst I also never got around to cropping out Han’s hand whilst he wipes the blood off his sleave after killing him.
The Mirror maze edit which is posted here was not in however I am feeling a bit different about it particularly the music cue before the smashing of the mirrors.
No opening Narration as I went on to intend with the invitation to the tournament was in V1.
Music edit where “the time has come to tell you something very difficult” is removed was not present in V1
And trying to restore and edit the monk scene before Lee meets Braithwaite which I gave up on but then sort of figured out a way to do it perhaps using a shot of a bird in a tree from Planet of the apes TV pilot episode… Note all the birds in cages on Hans island in the Shaolin temple of course the birds are free.
The whole reason why V2 was never finished was because I re-arranged the tournament fights and ended uo with a big audio issue involving a gong I added yet having watched it last night the original order I had was fine to be honest.
So there is a chance I’ll finish this off but no chance at the moment I’m too busy with work.
Can’t see any difference to be honest.
There is more detail still in the youtube clip I posted. Using that would be an improvement as the source for the shot.
I think that youtube clip is from Neveragreats technicolor recreation, if i’m not mistaken.
The other option is to line up the two shots and Lumakey the detail in through the black, but even then it still looks way dark too little contrast and crushed blacks.
If I may say something about this shot.
The background looks good… The theatrical version was red and was not tinted blue to make it purple.
The Special edition was Blue without enough red to make it Purple.
It should be purple but some reason it’s either Blue or red.
I would go with theatrical version and add blue tint possibly more shadow detail. Certainly despezialized has detail on 3P0’s black chest which I’ll assume was upscaled GOUT sourced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx19_UxG_YA
any chance of adding the red lights to the moisture vaporator?
I like the addition of the missing targeting computer on Gold Leader pulling out the trench but It looks a little low in the frame.
Keep up the good work.
That video gave me an idea, I’ll retry the shot using the 4K Blu-ray source. it will probably have more detail and be easier on the eyes.
Yeah well I just realized something about the binary sunset shots…
Note in the Purple version there is a white sun
In the red version there is a more yellow / red sun.
Yes there are 2 versions but what I think was meant to be the process was that on the white sun in the purple theatrical version the Red version is Luma Keyed in for the white space and then red sun with a feathered edge bleeding through the purple.
To be honest the more Red with a blend / feather the better. The process was never done. It is a half way done shot.
I would treat the theatrical version as sort of correct without this extra step applied. AS in it’s missing the final composite of the Red sun.
The moisture vaporator on the right being black is the same sort of issue it’s not composited into the shot but the hole for it is there.
If I may say something about this shot.
The background looks good… The theatrical version was red and was not tinted blue to make it purple.
The Special edition was Blue without enough red to make it Purple.
It should be purple but some reason it’s either Blue or red.
I would go with theatrical version and add blue tint possibly more shadow detail. Certainly despezialized has detail on 3P0’s black chest which I’ll assume was upscaled GOUT sourced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx19_UxG_YA
any chance of adding the red lights to the moisture vaporator?
I like the addition of the missing targeting computer on Gold Leader pulling out the trench but It looks a little low in the frame.
Keep up the good work.
Sorry for the double post but I am also thinking about the opening shots…
Ok so We pan down and see tattooine in the distance. Although you have shown a preview of the start there is some issues especially with where tattoine actually is…
I have seen recreations that place the star destroyer higher in the frame is it too low?
So on the second shot we see the reverse view the tantive is coming towards camera and the star destroyer is chasing. The thing is why is the planet matte of tattooine visible?
This very same matte is shown when the star destroyer leaves tattooine as if it is behind and that works well. But in the case of the Tantive being chase we are then shown Tantive from above and there is no planet below and the escape pod flys foward so they can not have yet reached the planet. So my feeling is although it is very iconic and without wanting to take a wrecking ball to the filn this planet matte on the second shot should not be there.
I am not asking you to remove the planet matte but I think it could be an interesting take on the scene that might make it work quite a bit better, And after all it is shown later when star destroyer leaves with it in the background
Thanks for reading and again sorry for double post but it’s only just occured to me how it actually makes little positional sense.
I’ve noticed something during the start of the film…
Ok so when C3PO says “there will be no escape for the princess this time” or in the case of Revisted “There will be no escape this time” immediately after this is said 3P0 says “What’s that?” and looks up, however the star destroyer is not yet overhead.
If you notice also the music is the same as later when the troops are looking about.
I think this is an editing goof.
The scene order should be 3P0 “no escape this time”
EXT space: The star destroyer fly’s overhead the Tantive
3P0 “what’s that?” looks up hears sound of being clamped in.
To do the sequence like this means that some footage would be lost but it would at least make sense why 3P0 says “what’s that?” to actually being clamped in by the star destroyer rather than before the star destroyer is even close enough to do just that.
Just thinking about the time discrepancy that would also create to lose "what’s that shot in it’s current position, Could this be that unused still shot of the tantive IV model facing camera perhaps a shadow growing over it or something? Anyway I will leave that one with you as it’s a bad goof.
One more big goof is in the build up to the Battle of Yavin.
Luke “Red 5 standing by”
RDD2 is shown beeping and the wings are in attack position.
Gold Leader “Put S-foils in attack position”
Did Luke disobey orders?
That shot of R2D2 is a bad goof I swapped it with a shot from Empire with R2D2 out the back window cockpit matches up too.
Have a good one 😃
Is the Criterion version not an authentic US cut?
Yes this was the western market international version.
could you PM to me a link.Thank you
Sorry but there is no link as it was never fully completed.
And i don’t have time because I work a lot of hours. Basically I generally tend to do a bit of editing in winter and spring when the weather is bad and I have a bit more time.
That is a big reason why I struggle to complete things because most of the time I am pretty busy as it is.
Sorry about that. Perhaps one day I will go back to this but no promises.
The two best edits are posted here anyway of Williams vs Han and the mirror maze. Most other stuff is music and sound effects. I get that a couple of clips do not make the whole experience but it’s that way for now.
I did a version 1 and rendered that.
V2 was a bit better structurally but the software program updated and broke the edit.
I have the soundmix seperate also which was a lot of work also.
Basically right now I don’t have the time but it’s not an impossible task as I know the edit like the back of my hand having spent so long with it.
Keep up the good work Ady and team I hope you are all doing well.
I got one for you!
It’s not a big deal, but none the less it is a continuity error.
When gold leader is making his attack run he is looking down the targeting computer… we then cut to a cockpit pov shot and the targeting computer is not visible.
I actually tried to add a targeting computer to the shot and it is very difficult to achieve realisitically.
May I suggest this POV cockpit shot is handed to Luke as he has no targeting computer and is swapped for a travelling trench shot?
Further more look at the cropping on the targeting computer on 4:3 releases of the film. Why would you have buttons on something you were looking down to target something? Ergonomically that would mean sticking your fingers in front of your eyes to push buttons whilst trying to target 😃
So if you look at the 4:3 cropping this is not an issue we don’t seee any buttons only the main display.
I think cropping the targeting display to remove all the buttons is something you would not be perhaps like to do. In my opinion the 4:3 vetsion is superior in it’s framing. I will leave it with you.
Also taking of the falcon targeting computer… Notice that thing that swings about below? I think that was to designate which way the background was meant to move. There is no background really that should be the window and star field. Just a note stars moving vertically up or down seem to work better than than going left to right or right to left.
Whilst I am also posting there is an audio issue of missing sound effects. When Luke makes his second attack on the death star surface the “trust your feelings” one. The x-wing laser sound effect is missing which is what makes it wrong. Then when we cut to the gunner falling off there is not a sufficient explosion sound to accompany the action. Then it seems the next shot of the xwing the green laser fire is also not properly integrated with sound also.
One last one… Music issue.
When wedge saves Luke from the tie fighter the music here is cut short meaning the last bass note accompanying the Y-wings diving is off. If you track the music in you will see what I mean the last note does not and never has sat right. If the score is restored the last note sit’s much better with the action and it works how it was meant to work and does not feel out of place like it currently does.
Take care
Hey, I’m looking for the deleted scene when Elrond says “Nine companions to match the Nine Ringwraiths … So be it”
Anyone know of a video on youtube or elsewhere?Also when is this long heralded new deleted scenes edition coming out?
It might be located in the raw footage of the council of elrond on the extended edition special features… If not it’s unreleased or present in the script not the final film.
The Council of elrond was partially reshot so that is why there are a few things in the previously assembled rough cut that fell away.
Phillipa Boyens “do we have to go back there again!”
As previously stated excised prologue material dispersed through out the film… At the council of Elrond we were to see Sauron stab his hand and mix his blood with the ring. Expanding on the scene within the prologue. Aside from this Elrond also was to recite the poem of the ring which it would seem was handed instead to gandalf in black speech for greater dramatic effect.
Hopefully Jackson will release the deleted scenes one day but the most notable thing about especially fellowship is re-ordering scenes dissolves and structure. It’s not as well crafted as it was supposed to be… Let’s be honest about that and clearly Lothlorien suffeted as did Rivendell with these cuts.
This spills in to two towers with chasing the orcs being condensed down and the true ending being absent for death of Saruman but truly a mess up was using Arwens voice on dying frodo rather than a dying Aragorn with brego. Eowyn the nurse and warrior sub plot and the meeting of the elves discusding the world of men.
ROTK is pretty solid if not overbloated in some respects but either way it would be great to see a fully fleshed out version of the trilogy that was not worried about age ratings and really drilled down on the structure the pace and the story.