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#752670
Topic
Empire Strikes Back Soundtrack Restored and Rescored Demo project
Time

Escape from Cloud City corrected sequences.

http://vimeo.com/119593326

It's only taken me about 2 years to finally figure this out but I had the Eureka moment today. It consists of 2 sequences re-arranged I think in the correct order in terms of footage

There is no Audio mix. I was purely concentrating on getting the scenes into the correct order. It's a lovely experience to watch it, if you ask me Enjoy it for all it is worth. This is a major milestone for me in figuring out what the hell was going on with the way they edited this part and no script will give up these answers it all just fell in to place somehow.

I now feel that I have blown the lid on how screwed up the editing of this film really is and how amazing the film making was and how some of it was totally butchered beyond what it was meant to be. You could be shocked you might just choose to think I am wrong.

Now there is one last thing to mention and it is perhaps we have a missing Shot of R2 D2? it could be a mistake the shuffle I made here so it is possible that the extinguisher shot of R2 letting off the smoke stays in it's original location in the sequence and the missing shot would go where I have moved this shot to. Or there is a missing shot of R2 and this leads into the extinguisher shot in the location I have it in Other than that I think this is 100% correct.

I have slept on this and I am just happy I finally have a bit of closure on this puzzling part of the film. I am not sure if I will attempt to re-score and re-dub the sound effects and re-create it yet. But the music cues will obviously be effected but I wonder how this matches up to the theatrical version vs SE version obviously the falcon taking off has always been way off so this goes someway to explaining why the music never really matched up with the footage correctly.

It's not 100% correct and it never will be too many missing pieces of footage. Random shots in a less random order is a better way to describe the clip.

Whoops! made a mistake on the first sequence R2-D2's foot is visible in the elevator I am Happy about this so it is in the right place :) and I made a balls up.

I also still have two shots the wrong way around chewie and the mark on the wall once I have all the footage confirmed by myself as in the correct order as this is very much trial and error then I will see what is missing from the sequence. The dead body of the stormtrooper has been part of the telltale signs of sussing this out but it disappears when R2D2 uses the extinguisher so what ever it does not really make any sense in the correct order still. Version 3 will be on it's way at some point.

Exhibit A

Lasers Heard but not seen

Ok my first piece of evidence and I have thought about this for a long time. On this shot a sound effect can be heard of three laser blasts that go "Pew Pew Pew" (yes I know that both reads and sounds ridiculous....But listen to it.) There are no shots fired in this shot and the sound effects also run over into the following shot. This means that there was another scene in this location at some point that had 3 laser blasts possible shooting and missing Chewie as he runs from his cover behind the wall. But I don't know this for sure but it is another tell tale sign that things are not quite right or is it simply suggestion that Chewie left his post and the sound effects are simply there to implythat is going on elsewhere. But it is important thing to note regardless of any alterations.

Exhibit B

The Dead Stormtrooper.

He is there on the first shot looking out but is in the location of where the stormtrooper in the following shots later is shooting at Chewie from.

Not only this but the numbers of storm troopers also decrease between shots but then increase again for the shot of R2 using the fire extinguisher but the Dead Stormtrooper has vanished.

There is however no Squib Mark on the wall from where Chewie shoots from in this shot.

Exhibit C

The IMPosters

These guys have no place what so ever in the latter part of the sequence. They are related to the start of the sequence although the shot has been flipped.

But this shot throws a big answer our way. This shot gives us the total amount of seconds missing from the majority sequence. Taking into account Exhibit A this means that 2.5 to 3.5 seconds of footage are missing from the point where R2D2 plugs in to the wall (Although it may not have been the start of the sequence originally all footage after this point in the film sequence as we know it is missing 2.5 to 3.5 seconds). That is factual analysis from this point.

To make an educated guess as to what fills those 2.5 to 3.5 seconds 1 second and a bit is the stormtrooper shooting behind the pillar being hit by laser fire. the remainder is to do with Chewie leaving cover and possibly R2-D2 coming back inside with lasers whizzing past the camera... What angle / direction is this shot? Probably looking from outside the door back inside the building.

Looking at the start of the sequence where these guys are meant to be... It is a lot more difficult to decipher how much is missing from this part. but including this shot into that part it probably means that we are missing no more than 5 seconds from the start. At a guess Chewie shoots one of them which would lead into the shot that follows where he would shoot the second Stormtrooper who gives chase (for which the footage exists) there is obviously a shot of Chewie running into the ambush also precursing this shot when in it's correct location.

Exhibit D

The Crossfire

There is only one place that can have crossfire across the mouth of a tunnel and that is from the area where R2-D2 Chewie and 3PO are located

Ok so although I have been messing about a bit regarding the Judge and Jury trial approach to looking at the footage (yes I am joking) I came across another cut scene which I found interesting and it could replace a highly suspicious scene from another location.

Now this image is a crap effort but it's enough to get the point over. There was meant to be a scene where the cargo bay doors shut on slave 1 and we would have possible seen Han disappear as the doors of the ship shut. Cool Eh?

Where does it go... Well it might go where Chewie turns around and 3PO says "turn round you wooly" this scene may be a part of the sequence I am looking at at the momment. or perhaps as the saying goes "as one door closes another one opens"

I am going to clear that piece of footage as being in the correct location though and just call the scene with Slave 1 a "no Budget" for this shot unfilmed. But with that said it probably would have been a low budget shot not including the ship or landing platform with 1 set wall or cargo bay floor and darkness shrounding the image of Han in Carbonite with sound effects to convey the door closing. Here is the script entry note if you had not built a full size Bobba Fett ship which shot would you choose over Bobba Climbing up the Ladder or the doors shutting. Cool Idea either way. would have denoted as 387 A /B / C

387. EXT BOBA'S SHIP - EAST LANDING PLATFORM
Imperial Stormtroopers slide Han's encased body int
o an openingin the side of the bounty hunter's ship. Boba climb
s aboard on a ladder next to the side opening.
BOBA
Seal it.
Exhibit E (back to joking around)
R2 is smoking again whilst he plugs into the wall at the second door.
This means he never left the first Door where he got electrocuted. Or is he even plugged into the wall?
Ok so last note on this for a while... One Door, One escape route keeping as much footage as I can is what I am going to do so cut's are going to happen.
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#752431
Topic
The Unofficial Complete REVISITED SAGA Ideas and Random Discussion Thread
Time

Harmy said:

I think, since Ady is doing Revisited at 720p, the deleted scenes from the DVDs could probably be upscaled quite satisfactorily, especially from PAL DVDs (if of course they aren't just NTSC conversions). And the deleted scenes inside the bunker in ROTJ could probably be used at 720p quite well too, given some cleanup and enhancement.

 So when are you joining the team?

Come on now I may throw ideas around and try to figure things out and stuff and I have a very good knowledge of film If anyone asked me to come up with something I would I can do sound and that is about it and I quite frankly do not apply myself as well as I could either but I like to be on the outside looking in. I Live down the road from Naboo filming location though so I can offer some photos of the forest perhaps when the weather get's a bit better that is about it and would happily do that if needed

But Revisited needs someone of your caliber what is the point of 2 people doing all this work twice even if unofficial please make your resources available to each other and work together to essentially cut down workload in general.

Harmy can the B&W extended kiss between Han and Leia on falcon be colored and fit with the existing footage at 720p?

Only because of the sudden jump cut of her arm suddenly appearing at the back of Han's Head...

I also want to say IG88 shadows of the empire voice... I am scared by that. I wanted to do an edit for the bounty hunters scene in ESB i could not get anything really that worked ever so well.. Just whirring noise from the audio for when he moves his head. But that voice is a winner. if only.....

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#752224
Topic
Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
Time

All Flak Bursts Color Changed from Blue/ green to Yellow/orange when this shot was was recomposited. Slight position change also. There is a few more like this but this one is actually really noticeable. The underbelly of the speeder on the left takes a hit in the Gout this is different effect in the Blu ray version.

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#751270
Topic
Idea & Info: Star Wars Deleted Scenes - Reincorporated?
Time

Empire Strikes Back

Did anyone try to colorize the Han & Leia extended kiss with "Ok Hotshot" line?

Simply because the cut they made here causes the problem of Leia's arm suddenly appearing at the back of Hans Head all of a sudden in the following shot.

Would the footage match up to the Blu-ray resolution wise?

This has actually shot up my list to being the most important deleted scene I think I can think of simply because it created a problem from it being cut where as most other scenes don't really create an issue from being cut.

Anyone fancy taking this one on?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AojKPZB1FpY

About 11 seconds give or take to get it all to flow correctly as originally intended. Silly cut to make at the end of the day.

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#750222
Topic
STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
Time

.Mac. said:

 Always kinda bugged me when at that moment it appeared Luke had a lot of time to escape, no sweat, then seconds later the feet are right at the speeder.

 There is a scene re-arrangement in the sequence as it plays in the edited film vs say a unfinished work print version timeline see if you can spot it.

And thanks for the feedback on the concept it was not my idea after all the creators already had this idea in the first place

Edit:

Watched a youtube video this morning about errors in ESB and one came up I have not seen discussed before. When Leia, Lando and Chewie with 3PO go into the elevator on cloud city running from the storm troopers Chewie has white soles on the borttom of his feet.

There is also Leia's arm changes position when Han and Leia kiss on the falcon between shots doubt there is a fix for that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKayI5rCSA

All the rest I know you are already aware of in the first post change list.

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#749889
Topic
STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
Time

Thanks Ray but I was only trying to recreate the storyboard though and in the unfilmed story board the AT-AT is much further away or grew in size between conceptualizing and miniature filming but this is how it came out as I could only use bits of footage that were available. It was a little experiment of trying to recapture that look from the storyboard and McQuarrie art really more than anything else and was quite fun to do too.

Also reminds me of old ESB Video game cover art too.

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#749882
Topic
STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
Time

This is not a suggestion... I said earlier I tried to recreate that storyboard I posted up a while back from empire of dreams documentary which also does not appear in the OT storyboards book BTW. So to get things back on topic a bit I thought I would post the recreation I did here, although I don't mean to be intrusive and I just thought it looked (even by my crappy art standards)) good that is all. But I am also very sure that it can be done a lot better than what I have done also.

So I hope people like it and I have no idea if the scaling is correct that is way beyond my skills to know that! but I think it is about right or almost there. It also reminds me a bit of the iconic Ralph Mcquarrie painting too which I think is why i like what I did here using the story board idea. Looking forward to the HIC update whenever it comes no pressure keep up the good work folks.

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#747787
Topic
Flaws, plotholes, and &quot;could-have-been-done-betters&quot; in the OT (alternate plot points especially welcome)
Time

Are you watching the same film as I am?

We see the probe crash we then see the same crash again. but from a different angle.

The shooting script is laid down by the director and crew and each shot is numbered. if they then decide to cut the film differently creating plot holes that is important vs the version that had no plot holes when the sequence was first concieved and planned by the director.

Please google shooting script.

Perhaps the so called meteorite should have landed on the probes head ;) That would solve it too.

Frink you can have that one for you edit....

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#747774
Topic
Flaws, plotholes, and &quot;could-have-been-done-betters&quot; in the OT (alternate plot points especially welcome)
Time

No, this is a discussion on plot holes flaws and how it could have been done better.

If authorial intent has no bearing then what does? Your interprtation or mine?

Let's kick that straight back in to touch. i will except artistic intent deviation by director or crew but we must be clear about what was originally intended and not peoples own interpretations.

The fact that people interpret it in different ways is enough evidence to back up the paradoxic probe crashes twice.

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#747758
Topic
Flaws, plotholes, and &quot;could-have-been-done-betters&quot; in the OT (alternate plot points especially welcome)
Time

Bingowings said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

^I think you've watched TESB too many times for all the wrong reasons.

 Or maybe not enough.

It's clearly explained in the film that there has been a lot of meteorite activity so the second impact is one of those.

The so called teleportations and casual strolls are just editing for dramatic reasons.

 Bingo the shooting script has the probe droid appearing after luke get's dragged off by the Wampa.

That means that the meteorite was clearly meant to be the probe droid and because Luke was attacked he failed to check it out so it got away. They just edited it in a weird way creating a paradox as the footage of the probe crashing and the meteorite are exactly the same.

They even got john Williams to re-score this section for the film as the star destroyer releasing the probes was a new addition Han rides into echo base with Darth Vader / Evil Empire music still for some reason rather than the intended music and scene order. They just kept shuffling things about and changing things. especially in the first 3rd of the film of ESB. I would imagine that they felt the first act was challenging for them in many ways

The 3PO scene saying goodbye to R2 in the x-wing was originally meant to go after the scenes where Luke left 21B and said goodbye to Han and Chewie before boarding his speeder. But the new scene where R2 has the lumps of ice falling on his head contradicted this so I guess they moved it creating the teleportation effect of him flitting about so rapidly.

If it was edited for dramatic effect let's weigh that last one up.

The death of general veers makes the casual stroll as I put it all the more plausible but he is killed before the shield generator is destroyed. So that would not really fix anything unelss that was also meant to move to after the destruction of the shield generator that is.

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#747064
Topic
Empire Strikes Back Soundtrack Restored and Rescored Demo project
Time

Escape from Echo Base new Version

http://vimeo.com/116947635

I figured out a few new things about this sequence and I had already noticed a few things when I did it before this is now much better and has faster pacing and re-shuffled I think correctly.

There is a few cut's here also sorry about that but it is for the best in my humble opinion. scenes have also been re-arranged so that it flows better as per 4th draft script which is also a total incoherent mess by the way on this scene 3 versions of the scene are repeated. I did my best to increase the pacing and I think I succeeded in that.

Whats missing?

Laser bolts firing at 3po when he is being pulled through the door

A chunk of ice falls on top of the falcon while they are running towards it in the Hanger matte shot.

Cockpit Flashes from the stormtroopers shooting at the cockpit

The Falcon hovering and the door opening need to be 1 shot killing 2 birds with one stone. when the falcon flys out the doors should still be opening. Laser bolts so fourth.

Thanks for watching, hope you enjoy seeing it a bit differently.

Further notes

The door may start to open earlier than I have in the clip after the gun that pops out the falcon shoots the firs storm trooper.

The Death of general veers means that it would transition into the last rebel transport calling for princess leia and saying they could not wait much longer. This would be scored with the music from the scene I cut where the hereos run past the old Wampa door.

I put the wampa door scene after 3po get's dragged through the door by Han, I think that is where it goes in the timeline but the wampa sub plot does not exist in the film so it is no good to keep it in my opinion.

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#746867
Topic
Flaws, plotholes, and &quot;could-have-been-done-betters&quot; in the OT (alternate plot points especially welcome)
Time

Empire Strikes Back is by far the worst of the OT when it comes to plot holes and inconsistent things and shuffled up scenes.

ANH & ROTJ flow far better in terms of narrative and especially most of all action. Irwin Kershner was not an action director but he really got the characters to shine.

Empire although it is perhaps the best OT film in some respects it is also the worst in some respects.

Ok check these in Empire.

Probe Droid Crashes and then the same crash happens again after the probe droid has emerged.

Han changes clothes again and again in Echo base short spaces of time (shuffled up scenes again)

3PO teleports between command center and hanger bay then back to command center (shuffled up scenes again)

Luke crashes in his speeder and runs after an AT-AT on a raging battlefield  for a couple of minutes and manages to catch up with it so he can blow it up. (shuffled up scenes again)

Luke then takes a casual stroll across the battlefield back to echo base.

Luke flys away from Hoth and the Empire are not there even though they have been bombing the planet and destroying the rebel base.

The escape from Echo base on the millenium falcon has many shuffled up scenes also.

Most of the mess is in the first third of the film then it settles down and then we come to the whole problem of as has already been mention the trip to Bespin and how long was Luke on Dagobah because there was a huge amount of training scenes that were not finished. and there is nothing to help us feel that time has even passed at this point people are right to think Luke spent longer on Dagobah the shots were never completed or put in the film.

we then get the scene of Luke arriving on Bespin pushed to far back into the film because of all the missing scenes.

Various action scenes comprise of random shots of stormtroopers in places that change location from shot to shot in terms of orientation and what characters should also see compared to what we saw previously from their POV.

This is what happens when it is an unfinished film with lots of missing shots in it.

Empire is a mess but it is still a great film but it is a real mess.

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#746423
Topic
STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
Time

I watched ANH:R last week I have not done so in over a year.

It was great but I decided to activate the trivia track which I had never done so before.

Anyway there was a bit that made me laugh in the trivia track yellow text.... It was something like "recoloring the escape pod hatch so there was no blue" and then another comment came up afterward explaining that the hatch was actually meant to be blue.

Nothing wrong with it but it made me have a giggle for some reason. :)

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#745086
Topic
Empire Strikes Back Soundtrack Restored and Rescored Demo project
Time

Ok so I was meant to be doing some work which is really boring to do and doing it in my own time but I got distracted, and I have been concentrating on over the shoulder POV shots from the Snowspeeders.

I checked the thread here about scales and I think I am almost right but I have struggled to get my head around this. So here is where I am at with this so far. I need help!

The green is a guestimation of the chasis.

Again the green is a guess of where the Chasis is.

Not sure how to do this 3d CGI model I guess but It is not a problem on full framed cockpits but only on over the shoulder shots. This is something that would be really cool to break that tin can feeling on these shots but I have no hope of doing this. But I would appreciate someone who is familiar with the scaling to check my positions of the chasis. It's been a real racking of my brain to figure this out so far. There is also the air inlet which would be visible on these shots. I think it is 5 in total one with Zev searching for Han & Luke 4 in the battle.

Basically the guns and a part of the chasis should be visible on any downward and wide framed window. As I have stated previously if it is a full front pov cockpit it is not an issue due to camera position and the guns and chasis would be out of sight. as for getting the position 100% correct I perhaps don't have the skill not my forte but If anyone want's to have a go and takes an interest I am interested in what you will say or correct it because I am struggling with it. I don't think this last image is at all correct... might not see any of the ship here or only a small bit the gun on the right would be a lot further back in the frame.

I have got my head around the angles a bit better but, it is too difficult for me this so last update on this I will leave it here though as I will try something  even if I am struggling.

Side on the right is more correct but, i know it is still not correct 100%. This is very difficult. I will leave it there though for now not going to pursue this any further out of my skill level I think or I might come back to it later because it is nagging me..

Oh yeah and Luke would have crashed in his video torpedo cockpit when he flies through the AT-AT legs!!!! They did not take the width of the ship into account would make for a funny video I think.

Nearly there...or there abouts it was nagging me. Edit reverted to a previous version was more correct...

hmmmm Jet Stream :) proof that it is nearly beyond me the texturing definitely is.

This is incorrect but what I wanted to say is that this could be done using a combination of three separate 2d images as a matte that being the chasis the gun and the flat plate. There is not too much movement to the actual camera on these cockpit shots so it should not be too difficult apart from the angles and the scale.

Please please and please again any good artists out there feel they can take this on as a still image for fun, please share it with me, I would love to see it :) I wish I was better at art but you know when it is just something that you were not gifted with well that is me.

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#744926
Topic
STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
Time

I was watching Empire of dreams last night and a storyboard popped up on the screen, and I was like oh, that is that shot with the pink AT-AT legs except the hatch is closed. So I thought I would post it up.

I did a re-creation of this as a mock up but I will only post it if team want to see it, but I think it looks really good. Anyway it makes you wonder if they really knew how big this AT-AT was going to be filming in Norway and is it a bodged shot compared to the storyboard? Star wars follows the story boards very closely normally so this I thought was worth posting, might be helpful

This also lead me on to another shot in the sequence.....

Now this scene is not in the final draft script and the closes thing to it in the 4th draft shooting script says this shot is a POV shot and given we see Luke looking and then this shot comes afterwards and then we cut back to Luke going to rummage about in the back of the speeder. I think it's fair to assume it is meant to be a POV shot. But if it is a POV shot there is a very big detail missing from it!!!!

Hope this helps.

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#743559
Topic
STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
Time

muddyknees2000 said:

Personally I think there's enough of a chance that this is a glitch...a missed shot.....that i don't really count it as a suggestion. I'm a very detail oriented person. I tend to pick apart little things and have probably been the cause of a few eye rolls myself. I think Ronster goes even further (and sometimes too far) than I do. So that'll count for something when I say that, in this instance, I don't see it as a problem. Ady could very well have missed that shot, and Ronster catching it might just mean that ESB:R will be that much more consistent. It wasn't a suggestion for something new that's not being worked on.

 Thanks Muddy, I know I go too far and seem pushy... That whole thing about the escape from Echo Base was about showing what I had discovered though not asking you lot to change anything with the film, I thought it was worth sharing to raise awareness / orientation and shuffled scenes although I am probably part right and part wrong myself I am one to make mistakes like any Human Being does. Please try to understand that difference of just talking about something though. I was not trying to push a personal agenda on anyone. I always try to bring up something with a bit of meat to it rather than a load of waffle :) And you lot are the best and most important choice to share things of that nature with as you are the experts but I have no more left like that so don't worry :).

I put that bit of ground down to faded footage and / or originally filmed with the iris to wide open combo of no definition left in the footage perhaps negative 1 scan might reveal a definitive answer on this. Or it is a painting as I guessed previously?

Don't kill me, but I watched clip again and did spot a difference and it's on the new trench / shield gen shot. the exterior footage wiggles in the original but is static in revisited. I am putting that down to being composited parts though and not a final render behind the mask so I am not waving any fingers I think I understand why it has not got movement and would be wrong to say it's an error but only a difference and perhaps only a temporary difference until it is all finalized. So nobody roll any eyes please.

The new Dagobah Still looks perfect. There is no need for us to see a clip that one I am sure of it :)

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#742325
Topic
STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
Time

Watched your clip again today and there is one more thing I noticed again it is not a problem that is created by revisited it is again a carry over from the original.

In this shot the ground in the original is untextured (no grooves or bumps in the snow) and the ground has no movement.

As a quick mock up example of how it could look with texture on the ground I did a still.

I don't know if this is actually doable and it is no biggie but I thought about the ground in a few shots before this one the external shot and the ground here could perhaps be re-used or another shot to add velocity that was never here previously. It's a small continuity error that could potentially make it feel much better but I thought I would point it out. I  think this shot could have just been a painting rather than moving footage which is in all the other shots in the sequence.

Anyway Merry Christmas and Happy New year to all and thanks for sharing your great work. Now go and drink Beer :)

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#742026
Topic
STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
Time

Thanks for sharing the new clip, I thought there was some real good stuff in there.

If I may give some feedback that should in no way be interpreted as suggestions for anything to be changed. I think you post up clips that you want feedback on anyway so I will shoot.

I really like the snowspeeder external shots that improve movement especially the one that fly's more towards the screen past the explosion.

The new AT-ST shot I really like it's new position in the shot that makes a lot of sense as It looked like it was walking on air but I kind of miss the speed that it originally had perhaps they have a sprint function? These ones do have longer legs... That was something that made me think about their original design and that it was rushing a position while the AT-AT is stationary. If I could choose best of both it would be your new position and keeping the same speed but I like it all the same it's one of those getting used to it shots probably.

The trench looks good and I was interested in how you twisted the shield generator around a bit. But the thing that struck me about it was now there is a trench there should the laser bolts be aimed at the trench instead of the shield generator? As in the original there was nothing else to aim them at so I think you have some granted artistic license to go with "Prepare to target the main generator" and not shoot at it if you think that makes more sense.

I think that you are aware that "Watch that cross fire boys" is out of sync from the original film it's not a revisited created problem or fault it's there from day one I think. so I wonder is this a audio job rather than a video speed change?

My favourite part was the cockpit being electrified on that side view and I thought the blending here was absolutely seamless and the cockpit display flickering all really nicely done.

3 AT-AT's !!!! So Gereral Veers has already Veered off :)

As Ray afraid said I thought the shot that contained both Luke's crashed speeder and the AT-AT Legs approaching was also going to be re-scaled but I can see this is in no way an easy task. But there is one thing about this shot that sticks out and it now sticks out more because you have put a better background in. The Lighting on that AT-AT leg's are really bad and the leg's don't blend in the original or revisited. The leg's have a lighting problem that makes them look weird and It is no fault of your work it is inherited from the original film. The new re-scaled foot works well and feels better.

The thing that has always bugged me about this sequence is that a ceasefire from the AT-AT's ensue as soon as Luke crashes so It does not feel like he crashed in the middle of a battle.

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#741766
Topic
Empire Strikes Back Soundtrack Restored and Rescored Demo project
Time

So I have been focusing on scene re-arrangement recently but unfortunately due to some unseen circumstances with a very close family member illness never nice around Christmas time this project is currently on hold indefinitely.

Constant trips to the hospital and everything like that is taking my time away amongst everything else that I have to do.

So this is possibly the last edit I will do for quite some time until later next year I don't know when to be honest at the moment there are other scene re-arrangements that I want to try especially the probe at the start of the film but it will all have to wait now until when ever that is, so I leave you with my most radical edit yet and I hope anyone who is following what I have been doing enjoys the clip It was a hell of a lot of work to re-score this section and it is still WIP please let me know if you like it or do not like it. But if anything I should make you feel like you are watching it for the first time again but different It is very radical edit and was fun to do but I tried to pump some drama in there too. Closer to real time....All music used was composed by John Williams for The Empire Strikes Back.

Hoth Battle Re-score & Scene re-arrangement

http://vimeo.com/114880331

A small but recent discovery leads me to the transition for when the Falcon reaches Bespin. Here is the original Transition.

But going by the 4th draft script and taking into account the closing iris transition should it have been a bit more like this.

Curious about this one... I think there may be music to back this up also but I have not checked yet. Did they keep the iris transition but fail to complete this shot? This shot is in the script (4th Draft) Certainly much more arty farty too... I am almost 100% that this is what they originally planned for the sequence but I cannot be totally confident. But I think it would work a lot better so case closed gonna say yeah had to be. No Music just checked so perhaps they wrote this one off or it was meant to be sound effects only after the Harp gliss and add a break in the score.

Edit:

Just realized the symmetry between the cut scene and the reveal of Vader... Very interesting indeed