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#1187641
Topic
Movies in UAR - opinions needed
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I tried to watch the Assassin last night and it kept shifting aspect ratios between 4:3 and open matte… I found it distracting.

I thought the film, well what i saw was ok so far as content but I really found the shifting ratios distracting. I turned it off after a bit, I will give it another try but my first impression was that it put me off just for that.

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#1186769
Topic
The Shining 35mm print opportunity
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I can’t remember but It feels like a cut there. After somone said it and I read it and checked it his death does feel like a small shot was cut though it is probably what 2 seconds or 1 second. It’s a rumour but i can sort of see it or feel it.

Anyway this link here.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/comicbook.com/popculturenow/amp/2017/04/06/the-shining-deleted-scenes-ending/

The scrap book scene sctually sounds better than the ending hospital scene.

That link you posted also refers to Danny having one of his “Episodes” in the bath.

EDIT.

http://pineapples101.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/shining-deleted-scenes.html?m=1

FOUND THE LINK FOR HALORAN RUMOUR.

I think what this article infers is that there was a 154 minute work print. As it claims 8 minutes were deleted from US longer version. And then a further 2 minutes after initial release. that is how I am interpreting it. And going by the list of scenes we have I think that it sounds about right around the 10 minute mark.

also from the 1st original cut.

Early releases featured end credits in the same blue as in the opening titles, instead of the white credits seen today.

The opening Warner Bros. logo was originally a red background with a black television-shaped box in the center, with three white lines meant to represent a “W.” For later releases, this was replaced with the traditional Warner Bros. shield. (Saul Bass)

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#1186763
Topic
The Shining 35mm print opportunity
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Ah so it is some outs and trimms. It does not sound hugely exciting from the description but it is none the less a very hard to come by deleted scene.

Halorann also was rumoured to have a gorier version of his death also if I recall. It does seem the take was a soft take rather than shall we say a “horror take” sir, if you catch my meaning…(said in voice of brittish butler)

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#1186252
Topic
The Shining 35mm print opportunity
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RDPlissken said:

just stumbled upon this:

http://www.astebolaffi.it/en/lot/754/23/detail

“Long cut of the original film The Shining containing the scene in which Wendy, played by Shelley Alexis Duvall, carries Danny, played by little Danny Lloyd. These cuts, given by Kubrick to D’Alessandro, are particularly rare because the director notoriously burned all the leftovers at the conclusion of the editing.”

hefty price, though 😦

Hmmm interesting. This is’nt the hospital part at the end is it?

What other version is there? Certainly a tease to downplay the original ending perhaps…

Oh yeah they are making the sequal to the shining also… Wether we will get a sequel based on King’s version or Kubricks version?

Expect a few nods I guess. I imagine the first shot in the sequal will be the last shot reversed. Pan out from the picture of Torrence.

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#1168548
Topic
Stargate 1994 Roland Emmerich (Fan Edit)
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Shane said:

It sounds like this idea might be beyond the scope of this project, and you very well may no longer be working on it, but I’ve been a long time fan of the TV Series and actually saw the movie after I had started watching the show. One of the things that bothered me was how when Ra is destroyed that you can basically see the “little green man” alien inside Ra’s body. I realize that it was the TV Show that decided to change it to the parasitic Goa’uld “worms” but I think it works better and is more believable than the “martian” style aliens from the feature film. How would you feel about editing the film to be more cohesive with the television series? Perhaps footage from the show could be re-purposed for that scene?

The problem is I run out of time to work on stuff or i get distracted by other stuff.

But yeah i have not given up on it. It has proven to be a bit trickier than i thought and although there is deleted material what you tend to find is simply a lot of the 65 or so deleted shots much ends up being alternative footage rather than adding much in the way of extra time you end up with a slight extension but more content within the same amount of time. And it also changes things on a few occasions with the music hitting better on different shots and an un jumbling of events.

I had fiddled about with putting cheyenne mountain rather than creek mountain but found it quite hard to make it work at the present.

I think in terms of alien RA vs Parasite RA i think the grey alien type look of RA is something pretty impossible to change but i think i actually prefer grey alien over the paradite (copy of alien franchise)

I have some good ideas but weather I can make them work is another matter… But yeah i am still excited to get on with it when i get the chance.

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#1164830
Topic
The Last Jedi: The De-Feminized Fanedit
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DominicCobb said:

Ronster said:

Political correctness is a framework of how to “act” (big key word there) or what can be said or what can’t be said and what is safe and won’t offend anyone.

But by stiffling actors so nobody can be offended by anything they could possiblg do i.e. the script is made safe for political corectfulness. The actors look like cardboard wooden and rubbish.

They are actually capable of much more but the material and the framework within which they are confined and boundaries that can not be crossed. The performances are bland and stiffled.

Yet the example you used was Natalie Portman in the PT, where she is wooden not because of political correctness (how fucking ridiculous an idea is it that pc makes actors wooden, not to mention the PT isn’t exactly politically correct), but because George Lucas wrote a script with shit dialogue and didn’t direct his actors well.

No It is not ridiculous at all. If it’s just even bad scripts it still is not going down well. If all actors have to work with is rubbish scripts it’s still not an excuse for all the money in Hollywood.

It is totally inexcuseable which ever way you look at it. There are plenty of actors and actresses that give far better performances outside of the blockbuster trash.

I have nothing else to say to you. In fact any of you at this time.

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#1164817
Topic
The Last Jedi: The De-Feminized Fanedit
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Political correctness is a framework of how to “act” (big key word there) or what can be said or what can’t be said and what is safe and won’t offend anyone.

But by stiffling actors so nobody can be offended by anything they could possiblg do i.e. the script is made safe for political corectfulness. The actors look like cardboard wooden and rubbish.

They are actually capable of much more but the material and the framework within which they are confined and boundaries that can not be crossed. The performances are bland and stiffled.

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#1164811
Topic
The Last Jedi: The De-Feminized Fanedit
Time

TV’s Frink said:

Ah screw it I’m going to respond to one point because it’s quite amazingly ridiculous.

Ronster said:

Something else that i have been thinking about as there are loads of terrific actors and actresses but their ability to act is being restricted by political correctness

Perhaps you should think about the loads of terrific actors and actresses whose ability to even get on the screen has been restricted for years and years by racism and sexism.

I cut the rest out because I don’t know or care what you are trying to say.

As I said it has nothing to do with racism or sexism it has to do with “stars” attached to productions and from the names attached a budget is formed i.e. prediction of profit based on how big the names are.

I like a lot of independant american films and i like to see new actors that don’t make the blockbusters. I did not make the system the way it is…

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#1164778
Topic
The Last Jedi: The De-Feminized Fanedit
Time

Collipso said:

Ronster said:

Something else that i have been thinking about as there are loads of terrific actors and actresses but their ability to act is being restricted by political correctness

What is this even supposed to mean dude

Like

Seriously

Natalie Portman in Star Wars prequels i percieved as a bad actress. Wooden.

Natalie Portman in Black Swan I percieved as a really good actress. Amazing perdormance.

These blockbuster scripts confine all these actors to coming off like cardboard cut outs. Nothing wrong with the actors or actresses. The scripts are like being in jail.

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#1164219
Topic
The Last Jedi: The De-Feminized Fanedit
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Whenever a film is made, The names attached to any production give it a bankability.

South Korean films and Bollywood films in no way have the same amount of budget as Hollywood. So in terms of their financers they may only get a small pool of interested actors and the budgets that coincide with this. Hollywood has huge bankable names and is far more diverse than many other film industries in other cohntries particularly because they export their films world wide all the time.

Whilst people are complaining Hollywood should diversify further and i don’t have an issue if they chose to do so. The people complaining about diversifying are not the ones putting their money on the line, or taking a gamble with further diversity and perhaps less bankable names and smaller budgets. This could have a positive effect hollywood having to cope with much smaller budgets rather than overblown huge expensive big name productions. But it is all banking on the blockbusters these days.

So the people complainging have to ask themselves what they want. Big budget, big name productions or greater risk lower budget productions although they may still exceed budgets in Bollywood or South Korea. But also are the studios willing to take the risk too?

Perhaps foriegn film industries yearn for western actors in their films but simply can not afford the price tag attached to them?

Top tier actors and actresses would also have a dimished income if they were used less frequently. Basically. Hollywood actors and actresses would be taking a big hit and this would cause a scadal.

When ever you hear an actor or an actress is attached to a production. That means it has been regarded bankable and has a profit expectation on the name attached.

Something else that i have been thinking about as there are loads of terrific actors and actresses but their ability to act is being restricted by political correctness so you are not getting the same sort of performances as you once did in the blockbusters. So the performances have become restrained also compared with an older mindset.

I would like to add that i am not that keen on Bollywood it’s not my thing but I adore South Korean cinema and when I watch South Kordan films i don’t care that it has no white people or black people or how many women it has in it. I just enjoy the story for what it is.

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#1164204
Topic
The Last Jedi: The De-Feminized Fanedit
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DominicCobb said:

No one here is saying Lucas is/was racist. As to the rest I won’t dignify it with a response.

The problem with this sort of analysis from people with an agenda is that if these people who claim something was not only white washed and also sexist. Why are they also not sticking up for the alien life in the film as well?

Why are they not complaining that because there was a wolfman then there should also have been a wolf woman?

The problem that these people with a political agenda fail to realise is the world was a different place in the 70’s and a country such as the USA did not have such a diverse population as it does now. This also relates to actors and actresses being bankable and big name stars give a film a projected budget and a measure of prediction of success.

The people that moan about these sorts of things fail to understand that it is far better to have the best actor or actress and that is bankable in a measure of success than to simply diversify something for the sake of it… If American money is making the film why can’t they just have americans in it?

It’s not like South Korea or bollywood films feel the need to stuff random white people in to their films for the sake of it. Why don’t these same people campaign for equality in films made abroad? So why should American films pander to these out cry’s by political agenda groups when the peoole who claim to be fighting for equality are in no way calling any other film industries out in other countries…

So yeah that is the hypocracy of it all.

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#1163983
Topic
Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Whoa boy. Cool off. Nothing personal.

No anger what so ever, the point is why does the cameo of the droids “feel weird” that is the topic pertaining to the whole fan service shots. And i am saying I think that there was more to it before the reshoots and stuff was changed and that is why it feels like it was just shoved in there. And it feels like fan service but it probably worked better in the other cut. Read back a few posts…

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#1163976
Topic
Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Ronster said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Leia was ostensibly not there yet, either. Organa says that he’ll send for someone he “trusts with his life.” Maybe she rendezvoused with him at the base and loaded up the droids before docking with Raddus. Or, the Tantive was sent to pick her up with the droids in tow.

It does feel like something was missing around this part. Yes we don’t see this rendevouz? And what i am saying is because the blockade runner was put inside Raddus ship it feels like we are missing a scene or most likely a different version played out differently.

I doubt you will see stuff like this happen in Han Solo though it seems as though from reports they reshot 80% of the film.

I didn’t say something was missing. I said there are multiple ways it could’ve played out consistent with the plots of both SW and RO! The absence of such a scene is not a problem. There is no inconsistency.

I did say something was missing though and this is “my opinion” if you don’t like my opinion that is fine. Perhaps you can make me change my mind?

I don’t mind people having a different opinion. I am not saying my opinions are always right. I just think it feels like something is missing with that part. That is all really.

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#1163952
Topic
Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Leia was ostensibly not there yet, either. Organa says that he’ll send for someone he “trusts with his life.” Maybe she rendezvoused with him at the base and loaded up the droids before docking with Raddus. Or, the Tantive was sent to pick her up with the droids in tow.

It does feel like something was missing around this part. Yes we don’t see this rendevouz? And what i am saying is because the blockade runner was put inside Raddus ship it feels like we are missing a scene or most likely a different version played out differently.

I doubt you will see stuff like this happen in Han Solo though it seems as though from reports they reshot 80% of the film.

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#1163946
Topic
Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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Because if the Tantive is loaded on to Raddus ship then how do they get aboard Raddus ship.

What i am saying is the scene of them probably originally carried on to show them leaving.

I don’t mind if you don’t think there is anything wrong with? Perhaps they did just hang around there and joined the fleet later on. Like i said i am not sure i recall correctly but i am pretty sure Raddus is already up in space or something by this point if i remember correctly. It is due to the recut though i am pretty certain about that.

If you recall the droids are on the tantive…

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#1163929
Topic
Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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darthrush said:

I hope I ain’t crazy for finding the C3PO and R2 cameo to be stupid cause I groaned when that came on screen. It just felt so hamfisted.

If i remember correctly Raddus ship already had taken off by the time we see the droids… So it is a bit strange because how did they get up there?

But if my memory is faulty on this then i apologize.

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#1163257
Topic
The Last Jedi: The De-Feminized Fanedit
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TV’s Frink said:

Ronster said:

This is exactly why i gave up on all this.

We did it!

I’d never give up those films…

😉

I managed the whole star wars prequel trilogy.

I lasted 2 hobbit films.

I managed to stay for one star wars sequel trilogy and one stand alone film.

It is a diminishing spiral down a plug hole on these big money spinners tent pole films.

So there is a pattern for you.