Ronster

benduwan said:

Ronster said:

benduwan said:

Ronster said:

There is quite a few shots you are missing for Empire Strikes back from the trailers.

These off the top of my head are as follows.

Deleted Wampa claw Luke hangs upside down before waking.

Deleted Shot of Shield generator explosion. Big Explosion.

Probe Droid alert and turns head after Han shoots it.

Lando heads for the Landing Platform.

Han pulls Leia behind him before shooting at Vader in Dining Room.

Chewie smacks a Storm Trooper in the carbon freeze chamber really hard.

Luke writhing / struggling in Bacta Tank.

Vader throws Luke with the force down cloud city chasm. This one is unusable as they obviously changed the scene a lot. but you did log it just the description is wrong. he was meant to choke him lift him and then throw him down. there is art for the throttle and lift luke in mid air. He perhaps was not dad in this version…

Extended shot of Han outside cloud city after Falcon landed.

I think that is all of them… You need to check all 3 or 4 trailers. Vivaldi and trailers 1 and 2. Trailer 2 is not in widescreen though.

is there some unused scenes in anh trailers i don´t know?
i´ve seen much and don´t find anything…

An Imperial officer run’s across the death star hanger, it also has a unique alarm sound which was probably dropped… In the Radio Drama there is Audio for Chewie taking out the troopers (guards)

when 3P0 is in the oil bath on tattooine the sound of liquid dripping off is absent but can be found in an on set audio take.

Audio is the Key to unlock the deleted material and make it presentable.

I wanted to log all the missing tid-bits of audio / sound effects I found so far…

Captain Atillies thrown against the wall - Proper sound of hitting the Tank cynlinder not on set Audio found in German Dub and Radio Drama

Landspeeder Search for R2-D2 - Radio Drama has Blip sound effect for scanner

Sand People Attack - Radio Drama has Antony Daniels Shouting as he falls from the cliff and Hit sound for The Sand person Thrusting his Staff in to Luke, Luke also responds with a yelp

Krayt Dragon Call - The Radio Drama features the Original Krayt Dragon call which comes in a bit earlier in this version you can also hear the sound of the Land Speeder Parts falling on the ground as the Sand people Turn in Surprise

Alderaan Destruction - Mottis footsteps were used for the previous scene featuring the death star view screen (part of this sequence is put into the Battle of Yavin Sequence) Music Cue incorrect and Death Star firing Sequence missing sound for some of The Gunner Operators pulling Levers and “Stand By” voice over announcement absent.

The Death Star Core - When Leia Shoots the Storm Trooper that slumps on the ground the Audio for falling on the floor is found in the Original Theatrical Trailer.

Vader & Kenobi Duel - Just Before Obiwan Get’s the Chop the sound of the 2 Lightsabers Briefly Kissing is Absent although Flashes are Present. There is a bit in the middle like this also sound missing for the kisses.

On the shot of the Falcon escaping the Deathstar flying towards camera the Death Star in the Background The music cut’s off Abruptly. A shot was pinched from this part and used for the Falcon Flying away from the Death Star Trench that was in the Theatrical Version replaced in the Special Edition. I am still yet to try it but I am pretty shure it’s a missing 2 seconds music and booster sound but I saw a version of the precceding shot with some omninous green flashes around the death star in a documentary so there could be a bit more to the sequence but not all that much. i.e it’s possible it was planned that the Death Star turrets around the Hanger let a couple of shots off before the Falcon got intercepted by the Tie Fighters.

When the x-wing has the Hatched closed before Luke Takes off with Voice over from Ben Kenobi. The sound of the Hatch Closing and being sealed can be heard in the Radio Drama.

There could be a few more, this is the current list and discovery compiled but this is I hope a helpful list of Alternate and Missing Audio either way.

IDEA!

I also was wondering if you put the scenes from Return Of The Jedi originally intended for Star Wars back in Star Wars

The scenes from Empire Strikes Back special edition back in to Return of the Jedi that were originally Planned for Return of the Jedi

And then Add the trailer scenes deleted footage to each film as they are in HD / Good quality it would be a start and this might be the momentum needed to get the job finally done perhaps.

A brief extension to each film say then more will come later perhaps.

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Optical Mattes and effects Missing from Star Wars.

So Far I have found The escape Pod Boosters on the Tube Launch has Black circles which fade away where the Ignition Booster mattes go. This Coupled with a Tunnel Matte surrounding the Ring Tube Edge. The Tunnel Matte would act Brightly in conjunction with the retro rockets then dim as the Pod went in to space.

(Original theatrical) The Landspeeder outside Ben’s hut matte shot is missing the rear vent grills and the booster parts.

When Obi-wan Blocks the Laser with his Light Saber in the Cantina a flash frame is Absent.

i think you should do this: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-saga-Extra-Extended-Edition-1080p/id/52131
if you need help let me know.
i´m working on a extended version too,but i think it wouldn´t so good like andrea´s version…

The problem is time and also although I would have it in my heart to make an extended edition I would end up cutting stuff at the same time… So it might not end up being much longer but more full of content… If the biggs thread or scenes were decent quality and the confetence room scene i think Star Wars could reach about 5 minutes extra comfortabley. Which is a fair bit but with a fairly plentiful alternative also of about a minute.

Empire tops out about 3 - 5 minutes.

ROTJ I think might not be as long perhaps 2 minutes or so.

But although I talk about some visual elements another problem I have is making these reality and the skill to present these things in decent quality.

So all in all I can do some stuff but i can not achieve what I have in my imagination.

benduwan said:

Ronster said:

There is quite a few shots you are missing for Empire Strikes back from the trailers.

These off the top of my head are as follows.

Deleted Wampa claw Luke hangs upside down before waking.

Deleted Shot of Shield generator explosion. Big Explosion.

Probe Droid alert and turns head after Han shoots it.

Lando heads for the Landing Platform.

Han pulls Leia behind him before shooting at Vader in Dining Room.

Chewie smacks a Storm Trooper in the carbon freeze chamber really hard.

Luke writhing / struggling in Bacta Tank.

Vader throws Luke with the force down cloud city chasm. This one is unusable as they obviously changed the scene a lot. but you did log it just the description is wrong. he was meant to choke him lift him and then throw him down. there is art for the throttle and lift luke in mid air. He perhaps was not dad in this version…

Extended shot of Han outside cloud city after Falcon landed.

I think that is all of them… You need to check all 3 or 4 trailers. Vivaldi and trailers 1 and 2. Trailer 2 is not in widescreen though.

is there some unused scenes in anh trailers i don´t know?
i´ve seen much and don´t find anything…

An Imperial officer run’s across the death star hanger, it also has a unique alarm sound which was probably dropped… In the Radio Drama there is Audio for Chewie taking out the troopers (guards)

when 3P0 is in the oil bath on tattooine the sound of liquid dripping off is absent but can be found in an on set audio take.

Audio is the Key to unlock the deleted material and make it presentable.

I wanted to log all the missing tid-bits of audio / sound effects I found so far…

Captain Atillies thrown against the wall - Proper sound of hitting the Tank cynlinder not on set Audio found in German Dub and Radio Drama

Landspeeder Search for R2-D2 - Radio Drama has Blip sound effect for scanner

Sand People Attack - Radio Drama has Antony Daniels Shouting as he falls from the cliff and Hit sound for The Sand person Thrusting his Staff in to Luke, Luke also responds with a yelp

Krayt Dragon Call - The Radio Drama features the Original Krayt Dragon call which comes in a bit earlier in this version you can also hear the sound of the Land Speeder Parts falling on the ground as the Sand people Turn in Surprise

Alderaan Destruction - Mottis footsteps were used for the previous scene featuring the death star view screen (part of this sequence is put into the Battle of Yavin Sequence) Music Cue incorrect and Death Star firing Sequence missing sound for some of The Gunner Operators pulling Levers and “Stand By” voice over announcement absent.

The Death Star Core - When Leia Shoots the Storm Trooper that slumps on the ground the Audio for falling on the floor is found in the Original Theatrical Trailer.

Vader & Kenobi Duel - Just Before Obiwan Get’s the Chop the sound of the 2 Lightsabers Briefly Kissing is Absent although Flashes are Present. There is a bit in the middle like this also sound missing for the kisses.

On the shot of the Falcon escaping the Deathstar flying towards camera the Death Star in the Background The music cut’s off Abruptly. A shot was pinched from this part and used for the Falcon Flying away from the Death Star Trench that was in the Theatrical Version replaced in the Special Edition. I am still yet to try it but I am pretty shure it’s a missing 2 seconds music and booster sound but I saw a version of the precceding shot with some omninous green flashes around the death star in a documentary so there could be a bit more to the sequence but not all that much. i.e it’s possible it was planned that the Death Star turrets around the Hanger let a couple of shots off before the Falcon got intercepted by the Tie Fighters.

When the x-wing has the Hatched closed before Luke Takes off with Voice over from Ben Kenobi. The sound of the Hatch Closing and being sealed can be heard in the Radio Drama.

There could be a few more, this is the current list and discovery compiled but this is I hope a helpful list of Alternate and Missing Audio either way.

IDEA!

I also was wondering if you put the scenes from Return Of The Jedi originally intended for Star Wars back in Star Wars

The scenes from Empire Strikes Back special edition back in to Return of the Jedi that were originally Planned for Return of the Jedi

And then Add the trailer scenes deleted footage to each film as they are in HD / Good quality it would be a start and this might be the momentum needed to get the job finally done perhaps.

A brief extension to each film say then more will come later perhaps.

Optical Mattes and effects Missing from Star Wars.

So Far I have found The escape Pod Boosters on the Tube Launch has Black circles which fade away where the Ignition Booster mattes go. This Coupled with a Tunnel Matte surrounding the Ring Tube Edge. The Tunnel Matte would act Brightly in conjunction with the retro rockets then dim as the Pod went in to space.

(Original theatrical) The Landspeeder outside Ben’s hut matte shot is missing the rear vent grills and the booster parts.

When Obi-wan Blocks the Laser with his Light Saber in the Cantina a flash frame is Absent.

I have been thinking about these 2 parts Luke with the binoculars and the whole Biggs thread.

I would put Luke with his Binoculars in between “A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY…” and the STAR WARS title card.

As far as the the visit to the station goes I would put that in after the escape pod fly’s towards tattooine.

for the second Bigg’s scene if it is indeed broken up then I would place that after R2-D2 rolls off and 3P0 go seperate ways or around that part.

I know the script says otherwise but it makes little sense any other way.

Interestingly also so far as the Bar scene is concerned there was a game being played and this may originally have been planned to be shown before Luke comes in the Bar. It’s like electronic pool game / air hockey top left image below.

It would have been pretty brief but anyway good luck.

EDIT

A bit of further complication…

once you add the scene of toushe station you can no longer have this shot heading towards mos eisley…

In fact this is the shot driving towards the station the landspeeder needs to be without 3P0 and R2-D2. And the Old woman get’s annoyed at speeding past her.

The replacement for heading towards mos eisley is this shot.

problem with this though is there are a load of cameramen and crew in frame when it pans across.

I was considering trying to Hatch a “Bolt On” project thread where a Library of excised material, be it video or Audio or fixes could be assembled for a sort of DIY add on experience.

A Place where people could share small clips or sequences basically attempts at making an alternate or extended experience with re-edits and so on. but without having to do an entire film…

I personally don’t think there is a huge swathe of cut content worth including but there are small things scattered throughout the OT that are worth doing, be it either theatrical or special edition. Before you know it all of a sudden you end up with quite a lot of Content and options.

I am pondering perhaps a Bolt on for de-specialized with original cut content.

but not opposed to Special edition upgrades or replacements either.

Basically custom set’s of cut content or new material AKA Special Edition shots.

This would be a DIY pack not a proper release and I would hope a collaboration of people chipping in ideas and content and ways to or ideas about how to… So you would have 2 types Original Cut content and Special edition type content.

Realistically though Original Cut Content for the Original Films may amount to 2 minutes per film if even that, Unless someone can clean it up. It would be more than likely quite a micro extension for each film as we simply do not have it in good enough quality and a lot is not worth adding. But alternative has more scope to it with extra bits.

Star Wars - Death Star approach V 2.7

I noticed 2 shots that need more work it’s not so much an error but 2 are crushed blacks from Blu Ray.

The 2 Mattes of the Death Star after “accelerate to attack speed” have crushed Black the dish is missing and on the closer fly in shot the Death Star surface is missing detail. Time 01.43.02 and 01.43.10 compare with the GOUT

Is it really meant to be that Cyan also? Considering it’s Blue Screen I feel Highly unlikely.

Ah there is one more that I have and I am not sure about it or not…

When we see the still of the Land Speeder parked outside Ben’s Hut, the Engine Grills are missing I have a book with the exact Landspeeder image but with Engine Grills in the Film it is Black. So it may or may not have had engine grills at one point as the image in the book does have the grey Grills at the back and it’s the exact same element.

I think this can probably be chalked up to a missing matte but anyway enjoy 😃

the Landspeeder image was not exactly the same as in the film but I filled in the blanks… Something to perhaps track down if one were doing a studio restoration. But It may have been a 3 stage element as the Back seems to match but not the fronts part has perhaps been slid down…

Found another Video with Red / Yellow flashes but it’s far too extreme IMO, anyway go to 3.38 for an example of a way it looked before 1997/ Telecine wise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWiuKNPqkko

Different sound for the door exploding…

Spanish laserdisc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fSOR6AsNk0

The Aluminum Falcon said:

Interesting though a visible decapitation probably wouldn’t have fared well in a PG Movie. I always found it interesting that the Lost Cut had the right arm on the floor but then they changed it for the final cut… Has it ever been revealed why?

Interestingly I am looking at the editing at this moment and the footage that is in the film… Is the Walrus Decapitation version although you only see the Arm severed as an end result.

Basically Evanzan get’s swiped across the chest which also get’s Poda Baba as he falls to his knees (this is where it cut’s) The light saber blade is missing coming down behind Ponda Baba or Walrus man as I used to call him. cut to Luke then back to the head.

So apart from a missing element and a few extra frames of Walrus on his knees and the decapitation shot end result it’s all pretty much there but what they did was repeat Dr Evanzans reaction to Obi-wans strike to cut short the decapitation bit. We would not have seen his head come off only the light saber coming down behind his head while he was on his knees. Luke astonished. Head on the floor.

There is a take with Obi-wan with his sabre lowered after the fight rather than upright so this may have been the logical position after the decapitation (off screen)

Also Dr Evanzan is gripping the Walrus neck so it may have been planned that he release the dummies Head.

Just saying It would be far easier to cut away to the actual x-wing on “this ship” and then back for the extra dialogue.

No need for special effects like that

There is probably a shot you could move quite easily. you should use the person walking past to fill in the damaged frames.

The turret and the x-wing cockpit are especially nice because the Horizon Line is in the middle of the frame correctly.

Where as in the film the horizon is either too low (Turret) or too High (x-wing) It would be good to re-frame those shots with a better Horizon line. Or more image either way.

it’s way beyong my skill level but my ideal version is either original theatrical background with Special edition ships.

Or…

flipped original background like concept art and perhaps new ships travelling right to left and up to keep continuity.

But I much prefer the dusk look to the original Not sure if the project members would be up for a mish mash or mix up but if I could do it that is what i would go for. It don’t look right the special edition.

ok but I figured it depended on where they took off from, and it matched the concept art which the shot was based on. And the Sun angle. Or perhaps I just got it messed up in my Head…

I am just not happy with either the special edition or the theatrical version on the Take off shot and I can’t figure out a way to make it something I really like.

The planet looks way better in the theatrical version I will say that much.

MalàStrana said:

Ronster said:

This Shot is flipped Horizontally. It makes a lot more sense flopped with the planet on the left and the guy on the right…

Why would it make “more sense” ?

Because when we see the ships flying in space the planet is on their left heading towards us.

So Taking off the planet is on the wrong side and the guy in the tower matches the concept we also see him on this side earlier in the film… But that is how I kind thought about it simply because the planet is wrong side on take off. All roads leaded to concluding that shot was flipped. So think of it as the edge of a ball so when we go towards it it’s edge is on the left but when heading towards camera the edge is in fact on the right.

But also the fact it looked nothing like the planet we see in space was bugging me so I tried to make it more orange. But I think it also takes into account the sun angle.

I suppose if you took it back to the original Theatrical shot you could say the moon was missing and it was meant to be night.

Sorry I don’t mean to bombard you with posts but this is quite interesting I think…

So this shot on the Hanger escape was originally from the detention block shoot out.

Once they run down the corridor an argument ensues about blowing this control panel up!

But there is a shot of storm troopers saying “they went that way” with the panel not damaged at all.

Have you ever seen any stills as there would seem to be some alternate footage for this small part / or it was edited differently at some point? It might be shuffled footage order? It might just come after the shot of the storm trooper saying “They went that way” Door Panel Explodes Gag ensues about it?

It’s not a suggestion but for the sake of the actors performances it’s a small thing but explains the whole argument in the corridor and would make the Gag make a lot more sense 😃

Strange the Panel destruction was moved to the hanger escape part though… The Stupidity of blowing the panel up is pretty important for the Gag argument, It’s like making a joke without the reference to what happened.

For all the “Star Wars was saved in editing” Talk I would go 50/50 on such statements.

Other than that…

Correct Color Grading? There is a trading card with this greener look and I have to say I much prefer it to the way it looks in the film.

This Shot is flipped Horizontally. It makes a lot more sense flopped with the planet on the left and the guy on the right… But It’s your decision what you want to do about that one…

Rough Example with more orange Planet

Here is something I was playing around with.

Death Star Gun Turret Viewport Overlay

it’s alright. So your memory is not that good then.

I just feel that when these groups shout. they use excuses that have no real meaning. It will be the are to many men in the film not enough women or vice versa The cast is not ethnically diverse enough and so on.

But if I watch a film, the last thing I about these sorts of questions.

I like films from all over the world and they do not have to be in English. I watch a film to follow the story. But injecting these sorts of view points like it does not have enough of this or it has too much of that and people yelling about stuff that does not even enter my mind. This makes me want to distance myself from anything like this because i hate it and it’s really horrid.

All the toxic talk around the new films has just made me not interested in wanting to follow any of it anymore.

I think Frink misunderstood my points and attacked me a bit about it. But I really hate all this political agenda group shite and it unfortunately should be lumbered in with the likes of “Fake News” and be restricted from saturating social media but I quit social media also because it’s Fake and unsociable and has created phone zombies.

But I agree with Frink even though I think he mis-understood me… 😉

I wanted to log all the missing tid-bits of audio / sound effects I found so far, and I know you care enough about the films so it’s worth compiling and giving you the info. I honestly don’t imagine there is much more than this list but it’s perhaps worth compiling a list as there is not one as far as I can tell.

1. Captain Atillies thrown against the wall - Proper sound of hitting the Tank cynlinder not on set Audio found in German Dub and Radio Drama

2. Landspeeder Search for R2-D2 - Radio Drama has Blip sound effect for scanner

3. Sand People Attack - Radio Drama has Antony Daniels Shouting as he falls from the cliff and Hit sound for The Sand person Thrusting his Staff in to Luke, Luke also responds with a yelp

4. Krayt Dragon Call - The Radio Drama features the Original Krayt Dragon call which comes in a bit earlier in this version you can also hear the sound of the Land Speeder Parts falling on the ground as the Sand people Turn in Surprise

5. Alderaan Destruction - Mottis footsteps were used for the previous scene featuring the death star view screen (part of this sequence is put into the Battle of Yavin Sequence) Music Cue incorrect and Death Star firing Sequence missing sound for some of The Gunner Operators pulling Levers and “Stand By” voice over announcement absent.

6. The Death Star Core - When Leia Shoots the Storm Trooper that slumps on the ground the Audio for falling on the floor is found in the Original Theatrical Trailer.

7. Vader & Kenobi Duel - Just Before Obiwan Get’s the Chop the sound of the 2 Lightsabers Briefly Kissing is Absent although Flashes are Present. There is a bit in the middle like this also sound missing for the kisses.

8. On the shot of the Falcon escaping the Deathstar flying towards camera the Death Star in the Background The music cut’s off Abruptly. A shot was pinched from this part and used for the Falcon Flying away from the Death Star Trench that was in the Theatrical Version replaced in the Special Edition. I am still yet to try it but I am pretty shure it’s a missing 2 seconds music and booster sound but I saw a version of the precceding shot with some omninous green flashes around the death star in a documentary so there could be a bit more to the sequence but not all that much. i.e it’s possible it was planned that the Death Star turrets around the Hanger let a couple of shots off before the Falcon got intercepted by the Tie Fighters.

9. When the x-wing has the Hatched closed before Luke Takes off with Voice over from Ben Kenobi. The sound of the Hatch Closing and being sealed can be heard in the Radio Drama.

10. Falcon Landing in Death star Hanger (tractor beam) - Siren from trailer was possibly planned at some point as the troops congregate around the ship.

There could be a few more, this is the current list and discovery compiled but this is I hope a helpful list of Alternate and Missing Audio either way.

LukeWarmTaunTaun said:

2. When the droids are being sold and bought the red R2 is right next to artoo-detoo. Then he goes off and blows a gasket. Then it cuts back to artoo-detoo and unless I’m tripping they use the exact same screenshot as has a minute before that shows the red R2 next to him again???

I think this happened because the shot where we cut back to R2-D2 had a Man crawling about in a Jawa Costume and he was meant to set the un-manned R2-D2 (no Kenny Baker) rolling or something.

He was one of the crew obviously and not a Jawa. I think that is why that one happened.

DrDre said:

There’s a nice video of the first few minutes of a projected Derann print on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fohpOUyZjQ

The colors for the corridor scene with Leia/R2-D2, as well as other dark scenes seem to have been adjusted for this release in terms of hue and brightness. The Derann preservation by TN1/poita/Althor seems to show these dark scenes have been brightened quite considerably compared to the theatrical prints, probably due to the fact that Super8 does not have the same dynamic range as 35mm.

I think It looks quite Cyan the Dark corridor scenes, and I noticed that pushing it that way was yielding good results for the 3po shots but did not consider the Leia R2-D2 needless to say this is how I remember it from the UK and this would seem to be a UK release the Deraan.

Talking about wrapping different looks in one video file that is why I proposed porting video in to an game engine and applying LUTs in real time and shaders.

Anyway that to me in that print is how it was in UK, shame the person does not have proper screen material the light switch was putting me off… I was expecting a hand to creep in and switch the lights on so the projection would be ruined 😃

That to me is correct but to others it won’t be depending on where you are from. Seems also a bit red bleed in it which is normal for prints. Magnolia walls don’t help none…

I am working on something…

poita said:

I found the reference in one of my books:
"Massassi hangar, interior: “Thet had one complete X-Wing, a Y-Wing and some bits and pieces, painted ships. SO I took the plate, reduced it, and then put it down in the left centre; then I took the same plate, reduced it even more, and put it in the background on the right hand side of the frame; then I painted around it, just lots of little lights in the back, a couple of shapes, a few hoses hanging down. Youd be amazed how little is on that painting”

Do you have the art of star wars - revised 1997 edition? In the back there are some stills for some of the 1997 special edition shots…

I am guessing you do have it after posting that concept art trailer 😃

People often want to bash me when I talk about stuff like this “Why did they not special edition this scene?” and so on but practically destroy mos-eisley space port with comedy dinosaurs…

Actually I am curious what your plan is? are you coloring this to be the special edition or Technicolor?

Either Way I accept the Special edition as a version but the main problem is, is that the footage just looks different and does not Gel well with the model shots and I like the model shots but I also like some of the special edition stuff. Some shots it would seem were intended to be extended versions of shots but ultimately the decision was made to drop the original model shots and just have the CGI version.

Couple examples of extensions that were if you like called off…

I know this is a preservation but could it be that there was some sort of error made, that made the CGI stick out more than it should of done in the 1997? Especially considering loss of luminance? Or is it more that the model shots stick out more against the CGI? I am basing this off the fact that if they were planning on extending some bits they would have matched the look… But it all must of went out the window at some stage I guess…

poita said:

It certainly has that old home video look about it. The skin tones are a bit yellow. but I enjoy the lush look of threepio.

It was fun watching along with the experiment!

Then I succeeded! Because that was the main goal try to re-create the home video feel but a bit better.

Probably pushed to hard on yellow highlights… anyway I learned something thanks for your input 😃

The whole corridor part at the start give me a headache… The walls are really hard to color match.

whoops

Here is my final go at this it’s not perfect and I know I can do this a bit better but I don’t have the time. It was a rough experiment any way. Not that there is not, any good stuff about it.

Nobody posted any stills from the Technidisc so I had no idea what color the flashes were in that release only what they looked like (the flashes) in other home video so I just changed all of them to how I sort of remember it. At the end of the day it’s not that important… But it was fairly good fun. Watch out for the corrected hues again small but noticeable. If I made any mistakes I am over it the experiment is done.

Hope you Enjoy my take on home video Star Wars first 5 minutes. with a lot less magenta 😃

https://vimeo.com/274577416

poita said:

Very interesting.
My only suggestion is to calibrate your screen with some test patterns or with a calibration meter, as everything you post is really quite dark overall.

The images do look CRT-like, but the gamma is way off (too dark).

It’s actually deliberate to make it darker because it’s too bright or bright in the wrong way and also I have been looking at giving the image more range and color depth where I can… But I agree so I have now gone from 1.13 Gamma to 1.26 Gamma but I will not go higher than this unless a certain shot demands it. (actually a shot of storm troopers went to 1.51)

I am being cautious about not losing the depth I am trying to create so It has been a creative decision but like I said I agree and you hit the nail what was missing so It’s going to have more Gamma now but only 13 points more or unless a shot demands more.

Trying to get that home video feel but a bit better than it was sort of.

Hopefully I will finish this now tomorrow and I will load it up on Vimeo and well that will be the end of this experiment…

also I figured something out…

We are definitely missing missing two shots of the booster detaching and the nose capsule re-entry but the shot of the escape pod flying towards Tattoine was the one that was meant to get blown up. 😃

The external view of the escape pod flying away from underbelly (DVD Menu Version Full shot) and the shot flying towards Tattooine go together but it get’s blown up by laser fire.

If the guy on the turret actually had got a shot off and the booster part detached it might have been a dupe to make you think it was destroyed? But anyway it’s all educated guesses and it’s something like this in the version you never saw before…

Anyway alternate footage that replaces the shots for the first Pod destroyed.

It’s a normal video player with shader support and Luts / effects but it’s also a game engine the big obstacle for me using that Is I don’t know any C++ but I was looking at it when I searched for CRT emulation.

Then the idea struck me that assuming you could program in C++ which I can not, You would only need the video assets and this could be strung together and as I said default version for instance technicolor Theatrical version. Assuming if you wanted to then watch the special edition the Program would add the indexed asset footage and Luts and choice of sound mix so on depending on your choices. Basically it would be a better way to handle Multi-version releases with different color timings alternate footage and so on… Rather than 7 disc set or something. Like BLaderunner would also work well in this format or perhaps Close encounters of the third kind.

Basically the idea was based around the video assets and an engine doing real-time rendering for either Luts and perhaps light emulation.

Funnily after looking at the software on the internet I ended up on a job where a touch screen presentation demo was using Unity3D in 4K for a Medial company. This consisted of an idle video loop and content that could be selected via the touchscreen that would give you various information. It was quite effects heavy and I did notice some stuttering issues but that could be in the code not the actual player but The point is it’s not so much branching but providing you have the video assets you can basically combine your video assets in a different way to branching you could just have a config I would assume for your video assets and then depending on your selection it would then add Luts effects and video assets you selected say from a programmed in menu selection for the film. It is all theoretical but yes it is possible and like I said perhaps a peek into the future?

as soon as 50GB SD cards show up it’s only a matter of time…

Can you lock Framerate?
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Video.VideoPlayer-frameRate.html

Seems to be read only so assuming you prepare the video assets to be conformed this should I assume eliminate frame rate differences.

I read also you can play video in Retroarch but it’s a bit clunky…

Anyway It’s too complicated for me, but an idea none the less. Here are some screens of trying to emulate a more Home video & CRT look in Lightworks LNR I used a box blur and a glow.

So anyway that is the experiment so far. One on the Later widescreen CRT TV’s will do hey? I think that the box blur and glow make it far less flat and add more luminosity so yeah any suggestions?