Theres more complete shot of dsII in this Star tours clip
darth_ender said:
Ronster said:
darth_ender said:
Ronster said:
darth_ender said:
Actually, this one maybe has some potentially useful footage. Sorry to be stuck on the same note, guys. It's just all good fun to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=liCZyhNS7v8
Since these have all been publicly released on television, I think it would be about the same gray area of the law as anything else this site has done.
The old guy in the green shirt on the left fancies the younger guy in the green shirt on the right.... I would not want to use this footage Darth Ender....
I'm sure it's good fun what but really fake bad advertising acting....
Obviously. The point isn't to keep all that stuff. The point is maybe to keep one or two seconds, minus original audio, of the the flight towards the Death Star, and maybe a second of the flight out of it as well. However, as you and I both said, it's all in good fun, so if it doesn't work, no biggie. It does look very obviously CGI in many instances, but the approach towards the Death Star is potentially useful if we don't get to the entrance.
Only winding you up....
Of course it worked. My question again is whether it is possible to use this stuff or not? Can the original Star Tours have color correction applied to a few seconds to improve the way it looks? Can we add our own special effects on top of that?
I would say yes it can be fixed because you can colour correct different parts individually so I don't see why not but the quality is not the best and there are limitations to what you can do with the source material quality...
The Star tours 2 stuff yes 100% but the original star tours would take work but I think It is do-able... There would be nothing to stop adding elements on-top of this like a cgi model of an x-wing flying at the ties say... Or If you even use some of it as cock-pit shots then you would be down-sizing the footage to the frame of the cockpit and this would improve how it looks also as it would enhance detail a bit. like when you watch a low quality you-tube vid in a window as opposed to full-screen so we can be clever with it and not shrug this off as unusable. Even if you used part of the footage in other footage it may work like mixing 2 image together instead you would be mixing 2 videos together.
so you could use some of that video under the middle section of the medical frigate and set it as a background vid with the frigate as foreground creating a new frame for the video but it would be much smaller
darth_ender said:
Ronster said:
darth_ender said:
Actually, this one maybe has some potentially useful footage. Sorry to be stuck on the same note, guys. It's just all good fun to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=liCZyhNS7v8
Since these have all been publicly released on television, I think it would be about the same gray area of the law as anything else this site has done.
The old guy in the green shirt on the left fancies the younger guy in the green shirt on the right.... I would not want to use this footage Darth Ender....
I'm sure it's good fun what but really fake bad advertising acting....
Obviously. The point isn't to keep all that stuff. The point is maybe to keep one or two seconds, minus original audio, of the the flight towards the Death Star, and maybe a second of the flight out of it as well. However, as you and I both said, it's all in good fun, so if it doesn't work, no biggie. It does look very obviously CGI in many instances, but the approach towards the Death Star is potentially useful if we don't get to the entrance.
Only winding you up....
TV's Frink said:
Ronster said:
I voted mabey
Sorry, had to do it.
I voted whatever.... Actually
darth_ender said:
Actually, this one maybe has some potentially useful footage. Sorry to be stuck on the same note, guys. It's just all good fun to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=liCZyhNS7v8
Since these have all been publicly released on television, I think it would be about the same gray area of the law as anything else this site has done.
The old guy in the green shirt on the left fancies the younger guy in the green shirt on the right.... I would not want to use this footage Darth Ender....
I'm sure it's good fun what but really fake bad advertising acting....
Original Star Tours Footage
The coluors are way off but I really like the flight across the death star surface and the bit where the x-wing attacks the hanger bay of the star destroyer and the ties flying at the camera if they can be colour corrected i.e. take the excessive amount of red and green out they might be useable because it is like somone urineated over the footage.
@Dominiccobb... Thanks for the feedback yes definatly cutting it down like I said it's not finished you don't always get what your looking for when you try and come up with stuff so this is what I have tried out so far and I don't have the end bit nailed yet some of that will just get dirched and forgotton about but glad you like the idea
Darth Ender.... Is there anyway you can capture this audio line and send it to me please.....
"The responsibility is yours, Commander, and you know the price of failure."
as a wav or mp3 if possible I could use that line in an idea
Ovan Marekal said:
Sorry about my post before; I've been having problems posting. :-S
I think I could help with coloration (I've look at the deleted scenes; some of them have wonky color and contrast issues)... but I've also been looking at some of the other proposed scenes, like the revised Boba death scene, and tweaking those however I can.
I'll try to get back to you with more soon. :-)
Hey I would not bother colour correcting my mock up it was just for story board low res but do what you can if you can show better art than myself which should not be too difficult then go ahead.... I am only doing ideas and storyboarding because I am not a visual artist.... Or was it obvious?
darth_ender said:
Updated the list of those who voted. A couple of people wrote me and said they still wanted to vote, but I haven't heard from them yet so I'll give a bit more time, probably till tomorrow because I'm such a nice guy. Please hurry, guys as I don't have lots of time.
Ronster, your mockups look pretty good. I don't agree with everything you've done, but I'm impressed with how some of it turned out or could theoretically turn out. And again, whatever ideas we don't use can be used in your own edit. You've clearly got some good ideas. I thought the Beggar's Canyon flight was interesting, and I really like the idea of Fett shooting Luke in the hand. Thanks for sharing, and keep up the good work.
Thanks Darth Ender....
@Fishmanlee I will be using the suggested phrasing at the end of that clip for when luke finds the falcon in a valley and luke flicks a switch in cockpit above him for the mock-up
I voted mabey to all your music cues but I would like to say that they are a potential yes to all of hem because the video may cut away and then the music cue will also need altering so to clarify my voting on Fishmanlees ideas they are all yes if it works with the video cut as the music is unfounatly dictated by what is on screen....
How did you remove the music from the snowspeeder sequence? I really could do with being able to know how to do that with a few clips and just keep the vocals or sfx....
fishmanlee said:
Ronster said:
fishmanlee said:
Ronster said:
The audio is unusable.... (later)....Theres nothing in this scene that is not said when they are leaving and part ways in the ships
double standards.
well it's practically the same conversation.... Would'nt you agree?
Look again.
you said the audio was unusable, but... bingo's Idea could still be realised using the audio from the "ship" version of the scene.
Ah sorry... I was not thinking laterally.....
Well I'm still going to mock up my idea because it does not help explain where luke goes so I'm opting out of "I need to be alone for a while"
show him being alone, show him remembering his foster parents and a ruined lars homestead before he goes to face his real father again. whilst the Haboob rolls in and engulfs the 2 suns over a binary sunset and use the deleted scene footage of Luke going to the X-Wing... The conversation in space will happen within Tattooine Atmosphere but we will see the Falcon depart in space. the lars homestead will come after and thencut to the emperor arriving at DSII.....
So I got it wrapped up in my brain.... I'm very sure of my idea structure because I have pulled it all apart for over 2 months now
I want to make people more unsure of lukes psyche, and I feel that if it can be done it would convey that a bit more... thoroughly
fishmanlee said:
Ronster said:
The audio is unusable.... (later)....Theres nothing in this scene that is not said when they are leaving and part ways in the ships
double standards.
well it's practically the same conversation.... Would'nt you agree?
So I had an Idea recently and although I really don't want to have anymore than I have already had and don't want to over do it but Darth_ender inspired me about Vader not being in the executor and then saying the emperor turns up in the eclipse....
Well my suggestion is this Vader stays in the star destroyer escorted by the other 2 (I have good reason for this) after we see Leia / Boush with the thermal detonator in jabbas palace we would cut to a fly-by of the executor orbiting corusant....
We would then see a shot of a lamda shuttle in corusant atmosphere but like the Ralph mcquarrie concept drawings and show how corusant has changed become more opressed and the Emperors Palace from where the shuttle departs.
We would then see the shot from ESB SE of vader leaving bespin but with the planet changed to corusant and the following shot of the shuttle flying to the executor. Obviously this is the emperor although we don't see him until he arrives at DSII
It would then cut back to night and Leia / Boush creeping around Jabbas palace
It's a bit of a Fan-Service clip but It might add a little somthing...
Jaitea said:
I like it, though the Xwings fly-through needs cutting down....or cut out completely, perhaps just an establishing shot of the Xwing landed in a canyon or something
J
Yes It needs cutting down and it also needs the finishing shot and the audio between luke and R2 which are from the Boba fett Cartoon Special....
the lines are "hang on R2"
and " See If I can locate the falcon with visual scanning" or somthing like that
The scanner will show a blip for the falcon rendevouz location mentioned at the end of ESB
I like the fact that yoda gives luke the crystal and then we see luke fitting it into the lightsabre on tattooine... For me it just connects the dots and makes yodas spirit live on a bit longer whilst expanding the story a bit
I did the Audio cuts for the space shots though as It was finished tattooine however is still WIP
Glad you like the general idea anyway..
Here's the other clip...
http://www.mediafire.com/?aqavinvcvq6fttv
Please try to remember that it is incomplete and the x-wing on tattooine is missing FX shots and audio samples too... aswell as Yoda needs Dubbing but it is for the purpose of structure I am doing this and trying to convey my ideas is the only way to mock it up... I hope you enjoy this storyboard video
Please give your feedback if you wish also... I am excited for this idea even though it's incomplete.
Harmy said:
Well, it would be cool as long as it had bearing on the story and wasn't just fan-service.
Yes completeley story motivated.... Everything I want to do is story motivated more or less... Don't care for special effects for the sake of it really.
So another clip is on it's way in a mo.
It's the Transition from Dagobah to Tattooine including Yoda giving Luke a lightsabre crystal but the tattooine sequence is incomplete I need to make about 3 extra shots but I will have it finished soon enough but a taster for my idea is on it's way in next couple of posts
Harmy said:
Well, that's the thing, I quite like Boba too, or rather I like the character as he was introduced in ESB; a mysterious, ruthless, clever bounty hunter who only cares if he gets paid. In ROTJ he basically became just one of Jabba's cohorts (which was only reinforced by his even stupider appearance in ANH SE), and a pretty lame one at that, seeing as how all his attempts to stop Luke prove completely fruitless and then he dies because he can't control his own jet-pack... If I like a character, it doesn't mean I'll enjoy seeing him no matter how lame his actions on screen. It's kind of similar to the way lightsabres were way overused in the prequels - everybody loves lightsabres, they're cool, they're possibly the coolest weapon in a movie ever, so the more the better, right? Wrong! In the OT lightsabres weren't overused, so whenever we saw one, it was like "oh yeah, this is cool!" You don't get that feeling in the prequels, because there's a lightsabre on screen like 80% of the film's runtime.
Jist putting it out there but how would you like it that Boba Fett was the first character you see in ROTJ and all he cares about is getting paid?
You'll see it all in good time I have not done this bit yet.....
Jaitea said:
Just to remind everyone....the bounty hunter's name is Boba Fett
J
lol whoops :)
Yeah I got some more scenes planned for that bloke ;)
Thanks... It took me ages so I'm glad atleast somone likes it....
I've made a cut up until the briefing with proposed changes although I still have quite a bit of mocking up to do but I'm nearly there.....
Harmy said:
There's no link...
I just put it up it took me ages to convert it and then I realised I made an error so the post was just sitting there...
Link is up now!!!
what do you think? not of my after effects skills but the idea
Ok so after many hard hours work and learning how to use the basics in after effects I have made some of my my vision happen albeit in a rough mock-up way. It's easier now to see my idea anyway... In other words it's Sh*t but I like it! :)
Bobba Fetts Demise
http://www.mediafire.com/?04r9tiqg35p6c6q
1. Moved Bobba's gun being chopped off to the end.
2. Moved the rope to the first attack Bobba makes
3. Fixed Lukes stupid Kick and removed Bobba flying in the air behind him
4. Moved Shot of the Barge geing hit again but removed Bobba
5. Removed Backgrounds when lukes hand gets hit so it appears that he is still on the nose of the skiff... Bobba shoots his Hand
6. New Shot for Bobba Taking to the sky for the second time
7. Removed Han hitting Bobbas Jet Pack
8. Bobba's head comes clean off and rests in the sand
9. Removed Bobbas head as he falls from the skiff into the sarlac pit
I don't mind constructive critiscism but it is wasted on me as I have only started using this software and it was not meant to be amazing quality anyway just for mock-up purposes... Hope you enjoy it and believe as I do that it can be done.
The falcon and the x-wing will be on tattooine atmosphere also to allow luke to go home so there will be more new shots coming
I will also be posting another later on
Ok so so far as my Bobba fett Idea goes Han cannot be removed from the scene where he hits his jetpack.... So It requires using other footage as a makeshift to make the sequence happen.
But probably better that actually goes anyway
Bingowings said:
RE : Lando and Han vocally patching things up.
If you trim a bit from his thanks to Luke Han could still claim to owe one to Luke (which I don't get because Han saved Luke twice so technically he's still owed one from Luke but I digress) and he could say, "Thanks for coming after me" to Lando, maybe splicing a mention of his name from elsewhere.
In an ideal situation Han would express his undying gratitude to Luke by shrugging it off but with both of them and the audience knowing what Han really means.
So ideally it would be "You still owe me one kid" and Luke would chuckle to himself.
The audio is unusable in this clip due to the turbines generators blowing sand everywhere.... Thats why I am going to try to visualize luke at the lars homstead with a big haboob rolling in.... blotting out the 2 setting suns.... Using only the footage of luke going to the x-wing it's also where he goes after "Meet you back at the fleet" it will be to the music of binary sunset of course with some wind howling sfx
Theres nothing in this scene that is not said when they are leaving and part ways in the ships
Harmy said:
I thought most, if not all, the ROTJ deleted scenes were in fact HD? My feeling about this sort of thing is that if you're going to put this much effort into something, you should try to make it at least somewhat future-proof. I mean, look at Adywan, he decided to stick with SD for ANH:R and he's already planning to redo it in HD.
To me, 720p is the best compromise, you get the resolution of an average 35mm print, so it should be presentable on pretty much any size of screen, and yet it isn't much more difficult to work with than SD even on slower hardware and you can upscale SD footage to 720p with reasonably good results. I believe these are the same reasons why Ady decided to go with 720p for his projects.
But it's of course completely up to you guys - your project, your rules :-)
Star wars Blu Ray is in 720p perhaps you upscale it to 1080p
Deleted scenes are not as a good quality and need cleaning up and would look better at SD or 720p thats my belief...
but if I am wrong I am wrong... Emansfew will show us what resolution can be achieved to look good for those to be incorporated and keep the same quality throughout.
I watch more dvd's than blu-rays so It does not bother me really.
So I've got round to chopping Bobbas head off tonight.... But I still need to remove Han but yes it is all possible to kill him the way I suggested it because I have done most of it tonight... It's only mock up quality but it is most definatley possible
Oh and I fixed Lukes Kick also for it too.... But I moved the guy being kicked rather than shuffling luke over to the left and had to start all over again... So if anyone wants to do this you need to move luke to the left....
Ok, so somthing I have noticed whilst messing around with things is that if the edit is DVD Quality then we could use stills or footage from the Blu-Rays and it would help with re-sizing as a Blu-Ray still is higher quality and bigger picture so you can stretch it or manipulate it and keep the quality at DVD....
And this will make killing Bobba fett possible they way I invisage it.
adywan said:
Jaitea said:
Yeah Monroville & Darth_Neznarf, the foot could be made larger and create more damage, I just used Savmagoett's calculation as a rough guide for how much to scale it up.....It's up to Ady now If he thinks its worth it
J
I like it. I know its not anywhere near finished but i see you came across the same problem i did when i was attempting it; the foot on screen right just disappears into nowhere. The problem with making things bigger is making the surrounding things react correctly with them. If you want to continue with that shot Jaitea then i would be more than happy to use it if that's ok, full credit going to you of course.
There is something i have been meaning to ask you Jaitea, are you any good with creating CG terrain? There is still a huge problem i haven't been able to overcome and its the Hoth battle cockpit shots. The AT-AT's need replacing especially when there is not only the incorrect number of AT-AT's seen but also that some of them are jumping all over the place, not correctly joined on the surface and always standing still. Now a few years back someone was working on new terrain that i could use, but then just disappeared and stopped answering my emails. I really do still need something like this done. Here is one of his tests:
Only an Idea but could you use google earth render a run along some ice at low level and speed it up and adjust the scenery and sky. like to be more parallax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzZt64h5Bq8&feature=related
or get somone to do a terragen hoth...
Saw that clip before.... It may have a use if Bobba Fett Delivers the plans....
