Ronster

Oh my god, I never realized this was here... Outstanding work!!!

one of the best sci fi animes I ever saw apart from the obvious ones was this...

Well worth checking out the animation and CG is beutifully done and the story is ok too.

Loved that cartoon... Yeah PJ took a lot of free story boarding from that piece....

But it is after all epic so why change it

Anakin needed a much kinder heart that fell to ignorance with his fears.

We got shown the kind heart with Padme but he was not really kind to anyone else that's why it failed.

On another subject... I watched Jambee Davdars building empire recently...

Although totally unrelated to ESB:Revisited in terms of project base and what Revisited is about.... 

I thought it would make a great special feature bundled with it regarding the making of empire at it's base level before going into any of the teams supplementals and the processes that the film has undergone for revisited.

that way there would be a 2 tier structure... Just another idea perhaps worth considering and being more all encompassing

Providing the space is there on the disk.....

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXcoIN6tqXY

I Just saw this advert and wondered if there could be any use for the Lamda shuttlle shots.. (Leg touchdown especially) and Vader exiting from inside

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Explaining the shield generator without explaining it idea

Basically had a thought about being ambiguous about the shield generator... Can you only see the shield at night like the Aurora or northern lights???

Perhaps a quick flash of an image like this for a few seconds while luke is in the taun tauns belly might explain that the shield is only visible when there is no light spectrum making it plausible that it is invisible during the day. And Obviously an animated Aurora. Before the search party, before the next day.

to go one step further to ram the point home cut to a long shot of a transparent glowing Green dome (but subtle) over an ice field....Jedi Mind trick that one

Like this....Illusion now Broken

That certainly sums it up... you hit the nail on that 

Darth Solo said:

Erm, I'm lookin at it, and it says Star Wars Begins, meets War of the Stars 2 in my artwork folders.

I'm not one for mocking new artwork at all, but when it looks so clichéd it sticks out like a sore thumb for me, i advise a little more work, usually.

I've made a few of them myself. Black levels are off, calibrate your display mate.

Mind you you dont always see it (dependant on how its set-up).

Double 0, keep up the good work.

That's what I was trying to say about I am crap at computer art or art in general... It was an idea... and I put my hands up that... I am not good at it... I probably would not see it even if it was set up right so far as black levels go...

I don't have a clue but I had an idea

If you want to fix it be my guest but I don't have the skills.. And I did it for revisited not just ESB

Yeah I was joking...

Yeea... ok perhaps not

space raiders and battle beyond the stars are made up of the same miniatures footage.

The Prequel Trilogy needed guns.. not like able people...People shooting at each other...

That's what I mean about the darkside being of material and the Good side being etherial...

We are never shown a sith seeing a ghost of another sith.....

Material = Greed, to want

Etherial = To give

When I did my extremely rough cut of ROTJ the main point of the edit or what I deemed to be the lynch pin of it was that Luke new and tried to keep it secret she was his sister but failed because of his feelings. It was also about his worries of losing the ones he loved.

Breakdown

1.Ben tells Luke Leia is his sister and to keep it secret as this knowledge could be used against him.

2.When Luke is on the Bridge in Ewok village luke does not reveal that leia is his sister to her and does what Obi-wan told him to do.

3.When Luke was hiding from Vader Leia got shot in the arm outside the bunker... Lukes feelings betrayed both him and leia. Vader learns she is lukes sister before leia knows it.

4. When Vader dies it has more emotional impact that Vader tells Luke "tell your sister you were right about me" it works because he already told Leia Vader is his father but Leia does not realise Vader is her father too at this point.

5. When Luke returns to Ewok village they are wearing the same clothes so it is possible for Luke to reveal to Leia that She is his sister as his father told him to although Luke now says "The force run's strong in my family... I have it and.... My sister has it."

Theres nothing wrong with her being lukes sister, it was just not executed very well... I thought this improved it...Although it is tricky to get right at Ewok village

It felt like all the linking was done in the last 10 minutes of ROTS... Actually it was all done in the last 10 minutes... 

To Link or not is not the point so much... It's all about the different emotions it will trigger.

this was the thing... I had the idea after watching the PT and thought about it...

The thing is, I actually like the idea more because how it would change the context of the conversation between Luke and Vader not so much that it fits the PT... But it was born from watching ROTS admittedly.

I always felt the good side of the force was more etherial and the dark side of the force was more material although they share attributes but that is just my take.

I like "bring my shuttle" much more than the new line which I won't say

I like the 2 shots of the shuttle flying towrds the executor.

I don't like the shot of Vader boarding the shuttle and I don't like him getting off on to the deathstar.

I don't think the shot of the shuttle messes up the music cues that everyone says it ruins.

If Vader resurrects Luke from death in episode 6 afterwards in episode 3 you learn about it and have to backtrack it but the revelation is given.

It's a fair point but It does not have to make sense sometimes things are better left a mystery until they are finally revealed or in some instances remain ambiguous.... 

It might make sense by the last film?

I am a strong believer in almost writing off the PT as non existant almost... But that particular mythology and story and if you like bait from palps I liked.

Also if you take the ambiguity of Anakins immaculate conception he could well have been created by Plaguies before Palps killed him in his sleep and as his revenge against deceit.

So like you say I would not want to change the OT to fit with the PT but if I did that is the only one I would remotely consider.

Harmy said:

No, what I said was we don't need 4K content - I have a 27" 1080p monitor and I can see the pixels on that sometimes, so for a 50+ inch display, 4K would certainly be preferable. So, in other word, if you play the same movie at 1080p on a 50" 1080p screen and a 50" 4K screen, it will likely look better on the 4K screen, because you won't see the pixels. But if you play on that 4K display a movie in 1080p lossless, it will likely look better than the same movie in compressed 4K on that 4K screen and won't likely look discernibly worse than the same movie in 4K lossless on that screen.

Well get this....

I was asking about 4k adoption and when will it be more reasonably priced for the home market to a person who works in the professional large screen industry...and was a little shocked by his response.

Apparently 4k will largely be dropped and 8k will be made available at more reasonable prices and presented as the go to format.

Although this may sound ridiculous it is all about bringing the price of components down and being very little difference in the cost of actual materials.

I don't know how much truth to this there is but this is what I heard... Wait and see I am certainly not rushing out to buy a 4k screen yet anyway.

Ryan McAvoy said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

The only one who should do an "official" fanedit of the prequels is David Lynch. He's the only one who can make the PT's discordance work for it rather than against it.

Yes!

Dune is one of my all time favs! Shame even Lynch is ashamed of it, because the one time that guy did epic sci-fi it was awesome.

One day Dune wil be respected... I swear it!!!

Lynch is not ashamed of Dune the studio was ashamed of it and would not let him release his full vision of what he created.

That's why the extended TV cut is now disowned by Lynch as Alan smithee....

Anyway Lynch can work wonders sometimes... Even though a little weird it can also be wonderful.

Ok don't beat me up... But I had an controversial idea a few weeks back and it's still there in the back of my mind I wanted some feedback on it....

Return of the Jedi - Emperors throne room

Luke is being electrocuted by the emperors force lightning

Vader grabs the emperor and throws him down to his death.

Luke lays still, motionless (He is Dead)

Vader while clutching on to the railings raises a hand towards luke

Luke comes back to life.

This Idea is based on the darth plaguies mythology "he was powerfull enough to save others from death but not himself" The whole reason Anakin went dark in the first place... Take it in think about it... If you hate it or like it let me know.

Also consider the dialogue between Luke and Vader and how in terms of Luke was Dead and brought back to life by Vader how it would change the emotional context of the lines.

also Vader won't be having a force ghost that's his redemption right there...I am generally not in favour of any changes to the OT to fit with the PT but I am willing to make an exception perhaps on this one if it worked that is. 

Thanks folks... It looks better at a distance...Or smaller....Bad cutting out of Vader on my part...

doubleofive said:

I apparently have not done well promoting the site and the Visual Comparison held within. Please see the Wordpress site > ANHR Facts for all of the goodness you could need.

I don't think that only that some people realize that the files are there and some do not nothing wrong with the website at all... All I meant by "that needs fixiing" is that make it more obvious because It is a really nice extra...

I thought everyone would realize that it is there it's only when you bring these things up that it becomes apparent and Ryan is right all the nice disc artwork too... Some people obviously are oblivious to it unfortunately... I don't know what to say only that it's a shame that some people have missed that entirely and it's not your fault....

Does this cheer you up?

I am crap at art so either you will laugh or cry but either way, I have a stinking cold and I did this in a moment of inspiration...when I came across an image of vader

perhaps a bit disco but I liked the concept someone else can take it the next step if they want... Which is probably throw it in the bin lol... The concept would be nice lenticulur but that's too much to wish for.

I second that Ryan would love an audio commentary also....I listened to that radio interview a few times now....

But then it also dawned on me... The Text commentary without writing a book could have a section about the miniatures and sets that were built for this edit which would also be really quite a nice touch also.

I suggest it either starts with this or ends with a section like this and perhaps a personal message (foreword) also.

And a section on 1st and 2nd unit filming.

Just ideas but would be a really nice touch... That PDF was a major part of it at least for me and I am sure others too. but it seems some people did not know it was there. So that needs fixing and make it a clear seperate download companion.

mfastx said:

Ady, is it possible for you to give us an update on what's left to be done before the release? 

Just watched ANH:R today and was blown away as usual!  lol

about 4 weeks ago it was 20 shots left to do.... There was then a conscious effort by the community that this simply was not enough shots left so a small shower of last ditch ideas...(I am very guilty)... Miniature work would then commence after these 20 shots....

Your guess is as good as mine but the project is done when it is done and it ain't done just yet. 

I'd actually put a new shot in the major edit category but since that definition at fan edit is what you are going by... I guess it makes sense now... Thanks

I'll drop the conspiracy theory now...

And that also takes by fan edits definition "major edit" my list down to 1.