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#1605785
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Godzilla 2014 deleted scenes have been released. They are all pretty good. You can find them on YouTube. Definitely deserves an extended cut.

I Just watched Mad Max Furiosa…

I thought it was really good. Heard about deleted scene where Furiosa cuts out lord Dementus Toungue. That should be included for sure.

There is little word on anything else that was excised from the film.

It should however revert back to the grading in the trailers was better.

Mad Max the wasteland seems to be now Lurking in the shadows and is set a year before Fury Road, another prequel. The dangling carrot is if Furiosa does not do well then the wasteland won’t happen.

Here is another one of my good ideas. How about make the Wasteland movie and intertwine it with Furiosa making it 3 hours 30 odd minutes long. Have an intermission if needed.

Re-release Furiosa with the wasteland movie intertwined within it. Now you get twice as much for furiosa box office with the rest of the story of Mad Max in a Mad Max movie. Simples. It will make money too. All Too easy

Oh well

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#1598317
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Dracula (1992)

Upon looking over this film there is a case to be made for an extended cut but also a part that is in the deleted scenes that was part of some theatrical cut’s.(Harker first meets Dracula)

Gary Oldmans performance really shines and it seems this would be the desire for assembling a extended version with his scenes, However Keeanu Reeves gives a reasonable performance but his “English Acent” is very bad… I would go as far to say his vocal performance hurts the film as he really strughled with putting on an English Accent. Making a case for Re-Dubbing his voice. Essentially I would be interested to hear what it would achieve to hear a more convincing vocal performance of his character.

I am not sure if all deleted scenes should be re-instated but there is enough material to make a good and worthy extended version. I think fans of the film would appreciate a longer version. There is some very nice transitions that were left out especially at the opening scenes.

Back to Jaws again.

https://youtu.be/B-SPVMvd8zU?si=N6ZcjDdZCg4y_Vnp

Pretty impressive vfx for the Alex Kitner death. CKVFX has done some good effects work on a few titles now.

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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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ifjg said:

I’m personally a fan of Ronster’s edit of the duel. FVDnz’s video is probably a better realization of what people in the editing room were trying to create and, by extension, a more obvious tribute to the fast paced swashbuckler sword fights that Lucas was trying to riff on. But Ronster’s duel just flows so well and works better at showcasing the pure choreography.

https://streamable.com/glrcsb

It needs the better angle overhead slash when Vader hit’s the wall from the trailer though which “that guy with no name” may have done… Hoping he sorted that? and as Adywan did fixing Ben’s unrotoscoped sabre before cutting to the hangar. Looks like a sparkler you get on bonfire night otherwise.

There is also more sound effects needed to do with light sabres touching I lost the video of first batch of edits on this I did but I never nailed the correct scene order until this attempt. It still needs a cut away or insert to stormtroopers shooting I feel also too long on Luke shooting at not a lot. The same stormtrooper being hit 3 times before falling over is problomatic but it is better here.

The Cloak… when Vader prods the Cloak with his foot needs smoke added also and perhaps douse flames.

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JadedSkywalker said:

A dark universe is a terrible idea that Tom Cruise Mummy from Kurtzman is literally one of the very worst films I have ever seen. I only liked the actress in that Sofia Boutella. The Brendan Fraser Indiana Jones Clones were better, in that I mean film 1 and 2 and but no they weren’t horror or gothic. Some of the cgi hasn’t aged well but I liked Rachel Weisz.

I don’t think I will ever bother watching the new mummy film with Tom Cruise. Stargate is perhaps the best mummy movie but again it’s not horror and extremely untraditional. Like you say with the brandon fraser film it was Indianna jones meets the mummy rather unoriginal.

I would very much like to see a gothic horror mummy movie made but as we are mulling over this it seems nobody wants to make a horror version, let alone a gothic horror version.

I could import a copy of last voyage of the demeter from over seas but at £18.00 it’s a hard sell not confident enough on it looks good and crap the same time.

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#1596474
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So I just saw the teaser trailer for Nosferatu by Robert Eggers. I enjoyed 'the Witch" and “the Lighthouse” and “the Northman” after having looked over the wolfman innot as deep detail as I would have liked… Nosferatu looks good, very good in fact. I never used to be but I have become quite a fan of gothic horror films. Nosferatu fit’s this bill.

I just picked up a copy of the limehouse Gollum which I intend to watch soon.

But as far as this post is concerned I would like to say this…

Universal Pictures seems like they want to create a dark universe thing arounf their monsters namely.

Dracula
Creature from the black lagoon
Frankenstein
Wolfman
The Mummy

First of all I would like to express a dislike of Universe ideas just make films that stand alone as films in their own right then these films remain untarnished and unconnected from anything else released.

However I think the wolfman could be salvaged. The last voyage of the demeter looks good but also ptetty bad can’t decide but also can not see it on dvd or bluray thanks to entettainment one pulling out from the UK market. No physical release in the UK.

I guess Del Toro with the shape of water did his version of creature from black lagoon which was my favourite film that year when it released not so much gothic but really great.

Gothic horror is great when done correctly however who cares about a dark universe stupidness just make or improve on films like wolfman. That is what nosferatu looks like. Give it time and remake “the mummy” but do it correctly and do it right. Make it a period piece. Make it gothic. Make it horror.

Cheers

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#1595127
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The Wolfman (2010)

We have a theatrical and Extended cut and deleted scenes from both. The filn is above average and exudes great atmosphere and is a gothic horror. It also has a great music score by Danny Elfman which actually sounds like the Kong theme from Peter Jacksons reboot only much better.

It get’s a lot right this film and it is enjoyable headed up after initial director left by Joe Johnston of Star Wars Storyboard fame and Rick Baker on creature effects. We also get a good cast in Bencio del Toro, Antony Hopkins, Emily Blunt and Hugo Weaving.

So with all that out the way this film should be a total classic but somehow it manages to stumble on plot. It can be marginially improved with what is available but it will only ever be good bordering on great. It will be hard for it to earn classic or cult classic.

The way I see it is that the Extended cut is overall the better version but the theatrical cut is better with the letter that is read by Blunt in Voice over. This means that Blunt should see Lawrence Talbot on stage but remove the dressing room scene. This would suggest the letter was hand delivered not by post a note if you like.
There is not really anything too bad with the deleted scenes that are present of particular note is the extra killing in the opera fancy dress party. That should be included as it is displyed on the newspaper that Inspector Aberline shows to Emily Blunt. I would probably opt for taking out the punch and judy gag though.

I also felt the scene where Del Toro has vision on the lake was poor but him teaching Emily Blunt to skim stones over the lake was good. However it seems they should be back at the house from deleted scene when they come to arrest him. This sort of more time spenr together was needed.

Also of note it seems the Cane or walking stick given to Del Toro from Max Von Sydow would have or should have had more meaning. Especially with the concealed blade that it would seem should have been for a greater purpose. It seems the big werewolf fight, might not have been part of the original and Del Toro may have simply cut off Antony Hopkins Head then he turns into the wolfman when Weaving and Blunt show up. Although the werewolf fight is interesting I wonder how without it if the film would be more grounded and Del Toro kills him as a man and not the beast. I think that was the idea but then the Beast would also kill Blunt at the end.

As far as the ending goes I think they got it right in the released version of the film. Killing Blunt would have been bad but the dialogie here by Del Toro in theatrical version is not good. It would be better he said nothing at all.

Werewolf beast among us has no real connection to the wolfman it seems.

It would be interesting to see this film recut and also go over it’s troubled production. It will stand the test of time better than other films with too much CGI anx it knows it is a horror film and that is a good thing too.

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#1594369
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The Wolfman will require a deep dive and I am lacking time currently for that…

So I will serve up something else for now.

The Saint (1997)

This film was a pretty medicre affair I actually saw it in the cinema and got the CD single of the theme tune by Orbital. The theme tune was pretty good and that band remixed a few Brittish classics aswell as Dr Who theme also.

So as far as the film goes for some bizarre reason the whole climatic action ending sequence was removed. This version of the ending can be found on a Russian VHS release but is dubbed entirely in Rusdian no English or subtitles exist in any release format as far as I know. You can find it on youtube.

The director expressed a wish to see the ending restored but this alternate version in English never materialized. There was some sort of conflict on the heroine of the story that lead to these changes however the Director himself confirmed there was 3 versions the Theatrical this Rusdian VHS version and a version that combines the two but finishes as the theatrical version does. I think it could be worth a restoration this one as it really does change the film and all the money that was spent on this big action scene which is surely the climax of the story whilst the plot is tied up should be re-instated.

Another One for a Special edition would be

Frost / Nixon (2008)

There are some deleted scenes here for the film not entirely sure they should be re-instated in the film or not I would need to watch this again I don’t recall anything bad. It is a very good film as it stands. In terms of a special edition material or featurettes there is a presskit which includes intetesting stuff on it amongst the treasure trove of Historical Documentaries and the Original interview itself could be included regarding watergate. I feel this could make for a decent release anyway with all the history surrounding it and being a very good film to boot.

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#1594036
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Ok Back to Jaws…

https://youtu.be/xW1ByJbFl-A?si=-XDPg55T6FEQK1x_

Even though this is reasonably well done I even feel this goes against the mystery. Once again it all boils down to the autopsy scene which was cut down. It’s an interesting what if. But I am actually not feeling this one. UK theatrical cut all the way to sorting it out.

Also back to the troubled productions re-cut ideas. As I said Universal had some other titles that are worth talking about… Well I just got the Wolfman 2010 on Blu-ray and I want to see the extra stuff and compare both versions. I think it’s a film that deserves perhaps another cut but then again I need to see this one proper befofre commenting. It’s not as bad as critics say but it also never succeeded as well as they hoped. This is also attached to “werewolf the beast among us” originally slated as a sequeal which was poor quality but one wonders if this film contains stuff from the wolfman that was removed. Add to this “Van helsing” with Hugh Jackmsn which was terrible the Wolfman does not look too bad in comparison. It’s on the list I will come to this one. Let me know your thoughts if any.

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adywan said:

Thanks you everyone for your well Wishes, and i’m so sorry for your loss Ronster. I was rushed into hospital again on Sunday but i’m back home now and thankfully it wasn’t anything too major, although it does look like i will need another operation to insert another stent if the artery that caused Sundays emergency gets any worse. So i need to take it very slow now during the long recovery. But, thanks to the amazing work the NHS have done for me, for the most part i feel better than i have for over a decade. Looks like i’ve been having mini heart attacks for years now and this was the one that finally knocked me down.

Thankyou for kind words and others too. My Mum also had issues with Vascular but it really came down to being the small blood vessels rather than problems with main arteries but it combined with other problems like Diabetes and Kidney Disease.

Blood flow around your body is very important not only to stop you say getting pins and needles but if yoh need treatment for an infection and anti-biotics don’t make it to where the infection is due to blood vessel damage then it can not be fought off effectively. Anyway I hope you can take that in. For my Mum whom was 77 nearly 78 which is relatively young but you see it’s multiple issues that is when you get in a real difficult situation. I hope you get on the mend soon Ady.

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47 Ronin (2013)

This film is a bit lost between a first initial version and then a studio salvaged version. At a total budget of $225M dollars money was poured in and keanu Reeves role was increased with reshoots.

The Japanese cut is slightly better which is the deleted scenes on the Blu-Ray. These scenes are small plot extensions but are fine.

There are things to like in this film but it just does not gel together.

Personally I don’t think the Monster battle hunt thing at the start works well at all. I also don’t feel keeanu fighting the Ogre is that good either if it had been against a human then would have been ok I reckon.

Anyway after these two parts are out of the way we get the tattoo skeleton bloke on the poster whom had him shooting and part of the action removed. I am not sure if he was to be killed or not?

The Big Samurai is pretty good fighting Keeanu and this was entertaining but the re-match that was due for the ending scenes was a bad decision to remove it.

It seems like it’s the Story of 47 Ronin but Keeanu battles fantasy creatures whilst the Samurai battle for honour and respect.

I actually quite liked the Bird Monks and getting the sword and Keeanu battling the Luck Dragon. I thought that was well done but sorely missing the re-match with the Big Samurai.

The Actual real plot end fight it seems was shortened too from the Special features via intercutting and losing quite a bit Hiroyuki Sanada fight here.

What is there left to say. Looks like some stuff the Studio did was a good choice but also there seem to be bad choices too. Whilst this may have been a lot to take on for the Ridley Scott Progeny Carl Rinsch Perhaps he did need some help but mabey, just mabey he had the right ideas in some placed.

I reckon it’s a bit of a messy muddle but there could be a middle of the road cut on this one if The Studio might relent on some decisions. It’s not a complete disaster… Far from it. It does have some stuff going for it.

It would be very interesting to see the original Rinsch version which was also shot twice once in english and also in Japanese too.

It’s both easy and hard to tell exactly where the Studio imposed changes start and stop in there entiriety but it does seem there were 2 films duking it out to be the one that would win over the audience. Unless Universal let us see we may never know. There are some other titles from Universal that are worth talking about too but I wil add them later.

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Brunner68 said:

I’d say Friedkin going back in on this one is HIGHLY unlikely. He died in August 2023.

Oh!I never knew he passed away my bad. I guess he atleast got to share Sorcerer out more internationally in his preffered edit.

Still It seems more could have been done with that release although it was never a major hit, it does stand the test of time which many of Friedkins other works do. I want to get a hold of that babysitter film he did of like folk horror tale. Heard it’s a bit of a weak offering but never seen it.

No, this is not a list of deleted scenes I want to see. It’s a list of films that could do with an alternate version or multiple alternate versions in an effort to either uncensor or improve and have more extensive special features on the making of the film or about the subject matter. This was how home video was revolutionized and this is how it should be maintained. With special intetest in the art and stories of it’s creation.

These Boutique labels need to be given more freedom and creative license to make better films too aswell as better quality. Even if only limited to bonus features or an option to view an alternate cut in some circumstances… Obviously without erasing the original.

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Sorcerer (1977)

This film made the Jaws troubled production problems look like a picnic acording to Roy Scheider. The fabulouse trucks on the bridge sequence was only done after being built 3 times…

Friedkins Version is the Superior Version and he claimed he would not change a single frame of it. But he did tinker with the audio a bit on the latest release.

The Studio released a “wages of fear” version for distribution Outside US Market. This version although inferior had Material that was Omitted from the US theatrical Cut. Friedkin also does not like it. However within this version includes some very intetesting bits and pieces and plot points. Some shots are action shots these particulsrly feel missing from the theatrical cut. There is more Tangetine Dream score in this version also.

In My opinion both of these cut’s should be amalgamated perhaps not including everything but most sequences, the character stories in the US version should be brought in whilst at the shanty town as flashbacks. The Structure of the film could be improved and although Friedkin has been Staunch aboit it. He sould understand it could be better.

For this one an extended cut would be good to see with a different structure.

When Roy Scheider takes out the guy with the Shovel. Shots are in the wrong order here.

Wages of fear version of getting to / walking to the blazing well near the end is much better than theatrical version.

New version bluray has crushed blacks on famous bridge scene and color tinted an already tinted sequence.

Anyway Friedkin going back in on this one is unlikely but I reckon he should think again and look at the other version that he does not like but find the things that are missing from his version. Some of it relates directly to his version in a matter of fact way.

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The Brothers Grimm (2005)

Terry Gilliam does CGI and honestly does it much better than many others. A good looking film indeed but not that great fairly mediocre with flashes of brilliance. This is no “Brasil” effectively Gilliam let the studio change as much as they would like this time rather than fight over a preferred vision.

There is however a Gilliam version. It would never be ushered in with the same fanfare as “Brasil” but a better version does exist.

  1. Different Jokes that you would expect from a Terry Gilliam Movie which were all removed focus on making Matt Damon a more conventional fantasy lead character. Big Character re-write.

  2. Tbe Prologue of the finished film was a flashback in the third act, revealing key information about the heroes that had been obscurred up until this point.

Gilliam walked away without expressing any interest of re-creating his vision on this one and vowed never to work with Weinstein again. Still it could be interesting if he was to change his mind. A directors cut could elevate this film to better standing with a lack of fantasy films in recent years. There are many deleted scenes on the DVD.

Braveheart (1995)

Around another hour of material exists. Gorier Battle scenes were censored. Some small extra plot scenes made there way into TV edits in the US Broadcast. Sadly the uncensored version has never been released.

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JadedSkywalker said:

King Kong 1933 if Warner Archive ever gets into 4K. Same for Errol Flynn Adventures of Robin Hood.

Also wouldn’t mind if Shout/Gkids did all the other Studio Ghibli in 4k now that Boy and the Heron is getting a release.

King Kong the original is great.

King Kong (2005)

It’s a good film but it is marred with some really bad over the top CGI effects sequences and poor sound effects in general. Music score is also flat. Main Theme music is good though.

When viewing the extended version of the film there are some good extra bits especially the piranhadon swamp scene.

I attempted to reassemble the boat tripto skull island sequences that were removed. I was pleasantly surprised by the character building and how it was better than the film that was released however you go over the hour mark until reaching the Island. I did not keep everything but as much as I could. This was as far as I got but enjoyed editing this part. It really did a lot to flesh out the story. It was not boring.

Then upon reaching the Island things still remain solid however I tried to incorporate the scene filming on the shore with Anne Darrow like original. The fight on the boat is shortened which was a shame. Things remain steady until and engrossing up until…

The Brontosarus chase. This sequence is horrible. All we really should have got was the characters running from the Raptors.

Everything remains good until…

T-Rex fight. Kong vs 3 x T-Rec was too much and too much sillyness. It would be nice to just have single T-Rex fight. I seem to remember somone managed to edit this way down to that so it is possible.

There are lot’s of nice bit’s deleted that are not OTT which help continue the adventure. Things remain Solid until…

Kong Ice skating with Anne this is just too much.

The Military going after Kong and the planes attacking were shortened. Also the car chase was shortened.

I reckon this film could be so much better if it focused on the characters more and put the monsters less at the forefront.

The sound effects and music are generally better in the game based on the movie than the film itself. I would vouch for a more grounded take on it as I reckon it should be much better than it is. It did so much right but lost it’s way with the spectacle rather than the investing in characters. It’s all there though just marred by silly antics and over the top rubbish in places.

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Brunner68 said:

Sylvester Stallones’ ‘Cobra’ is crying out for an Arrow release! Assuming the material from the legendary (unseen?) workprint is still available, not only would this satisfy fans demands but also a guaranteed money spinner for Arrow to justify the effort.
I’m guessing there would be serious licensing issues involved but if they could iron out those issues… Oh man!!

Yes Obviously the TV version exists for Cobra and the workprint exists. This is the sort of thing I am on about and I was coming to that one at some point in the list. It’s more worthy than cliffhanger too. A extended uncensored cut has been wanted for a long time.

Year of the dragon (1985)

This film feels like a workprint. Not sure exactly what I would cut presumeably some of the wife stuff. This film is reslly good but messy. This is a typical subtraction case would not add anuthing but I would whittle it down and tighten it. Otherwise good film.

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Jonno said:

This reads more like a list of fan edits than actual preservation projects. By all means lay out your personal visions for these films, but this is hardly the sort of thing that Arrow/Shout would involve themselves in.

Yeah they should do though. I think really the best thing about home media is you can relax time constraints a bit… Less pressure but also all the interesting extra features which these guys do do.

Second Sight was it? Did a good job on “from beyonf” if I remember correctly. Quite a bit of restoration (new version) Essentially although having great picture and sound is a strong desire for obvious reasons but there are still many films that deserve a re-edit and restoration of material. I don’t think restoring everything to a film makes it better either. You often need to subtract also.

Not so much a personal vision just laying out here what I see within the material of titles or scripts. If i can put the idea out there for a restoration rather simply talk about picture or sound quality as those things are kind of a given these days. I would happily take a DVD of any alternate cut not bothered if it is 4K or 8k. I am far more interested in alternate cut’s / censorship and seeing things fleshed out and restored. It is far more interesting although picture and audio obviously matter a lot across the entire experience.

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Scrubbing the detail is common these days and is a quick fix for digital displays accommodating the pixel.

Aliens (1986)

Although James Cameron did his directors cut and the film is a great action flick a lot of fun and thrills very rewatchable There is a a feeling it does not quite work with Hadleys hope scenes. It needs an Ultimate cut.

Personally If I were to address this issue the actual start of the Hadleys hope part is correct in it’s placement. But the journey to the derelict is not with Mewts family. I think Newt dreaming in the medical bay is where it should go like a dream or flashback. This would then lead to the planted facehiggers by Carter Burke.

I reckon all the extra deleted scenes are good apart from Drake’s scene looking for Newt I would not include this one. But the rest are pretty good dialogue and story.

A couple of bits from the Skotak brothers are missing a search light on the Narcissus at the very start of the film and prepping the 2nd drop ship model on Sulaco shots never released.

There is also contained in the making of documentary extension to Burkes Death as alien attacks Burke from doorway in red lit corridor. Burke being cocooned does not work.

So when it comes to the sentry guns scene some of the aliens being shot apart was taken from the Alien Hive Ambush and are missing from there. Also there is confusing edit on the Explosion in the Hive soldiers name escapes me but there is a shot missing. The APC was meant to shoot open the wall before driving off. There is extra model footage of driviving in the coridor.

The Alien attacking shots for Spunkmire death and the female dropship pilot death are wrong way around. The scenes of the Alien should be swapped back to correct order. There is extended footage of that dropship crash also. Similar to the guns continuity fix cameron did already.

The miniature Alien Queen looks bad when Ripley runs away with newt from egg chaber. Would be far better to use close ups if awailable. The theatrical trailer contains an extra shot of the Alien Queen not found in the film i think back aboard.

So I reckon the directors cut can be improved upon. I think it’s worth another go for an Ultimate cut. Also somehow it is graded Teal rather than Blue / purple grade which is signature Cameron color pallette.

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Jaws (1975)

Jaws is one amazing movie but is not perfect although massively entertaining and a legendary experience.

A while back Spielberg and Dreyfuss talked about brining Jaws to a new generation with perhaps a CGI shark. I think that lead to the 3D conversion we got in 2023 without any enhancements.

I think a better way forward would be to find the UK theatrical release and restore the Autopsy scene of Chrissy Watkins back to the film.

I would also vouch for the opening to be restored to day / dawn rather than artificially darkened and censored.

Now coming to the Abc TV version. I think the extra shots of the fishermans boats hunting is fairly valid material. Many cut’s feature this extension and action.

Ensure music restored for Ben Gardners boat Jump scare.

As for the Kitner death scene I think the missing shot is in the Jaws 4 teaser trailer before cut to chief Brody in the deck chair. In the ABC cut the raft washing on shore is extended and this would help restore the cut music here.

The guy in the pond being chomped seems like an underwater shot with bubbles and blood is missing between transition from above water to below then the leg sinking.

I think Quints Deck hand quitting his job would also be a good inclusion because it makes the following scene make more sense.

Showing a opaque Chief brody reflected in the sharks black eye as intended in chum scene?

Last but not least the missing shot of quints tackle box where Chief says “hooks and lines” after Quint and Hooper fall out. This is a clear editing error.

Obviously restore the profanity to the ending too.

That would make the Ultimate cut of Jaws I reckon. But that is my opinion.

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From Hell (2001)

This film was a resonable effort from the hughes brothers but once digging into the supplemental features especially the deleted scenes a slightly more fleshed out film starts to appear.

Upon studying the actual released film it became apparent that references or conversation relating to Aberline (Depp) being psychic were inserts or shot for choice this can be removed from the story in that sense but not in terms of his dreams and visions. So it can be public knowledge or private.

It really needed scenes of Aberline questioning other suspects although none has been released.

In terms of Mary Kelly (H Grahem) she can be shown to be dead or killed and not going to Ireland to have kids and stuff. This is another option.

The Alternate ending can transition to the original ending via a dissolve on Dead Depp with the coins on his eyes.

Anyway can see quite a different film than that of the theatrical. The grave broken coffin is also an insert I think. I reckon it is worth a directors cut treatment but not sure it will make it closer to the graphic novel upon which it is based. I am also not sure if it is censored apart from sex.

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Shaolin (2011)

I only saw this movie last week and I missed it back upon it’s release. Bunched in with other films I did see like Musa the warrior, the Warlords and so on War of the Arrows deserves a mention too. I feel like I cheated myself out of this film and glad I finally discoveted it, if only very late.

Being from the UK this is cut for Horse falls and Animal Cruelty you know the nation that holds the cruelest horse race ever known as the Grand National Broadcast and re-run on telly.

Anyway those cut’s are annoying and are disruptive but furthermore it seems the extra’s were overall better on the UK release but other regions got the deleted scened… 43 minutes of them.

That says to me there was certainly a longer cut planned for the 3 hour mark and noted some alternate dialogue in UK extra’s especially upon Any Lau killing his Military Rival over the children arrange marridge proposal at dinner. It’s not the greatest plot written but this film does have a heart aswell as some really good Martial arts.

I have no idea about the 43 minutes of deleted material or what they contain overall but there was a good training scene fight in there at the temple I have seen on youtube. Requires sound editing and VFX wire removal. The director Benny Chan has now passed away so a Directors cut is not possible. But from the gist of a review most deleted material relates to the monks and character building and fleshing out sub plots.

I really quite enjoyed Jackie Chan in this film too sometimes I find him a bit too whacky but he was much more grounded here but it all fit quite well as the legendary Cook who saves the temple.

I reckon this 2 hour movie needed a bit longer to flesh out the story and an extended cut would be a good thing for it. It’s rare you get a decent kung fu flick with a decent drama and for that reason alone I think it would be a good idea. The fight scenes are also really well done but not overdone. The balance is good on this one.

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waffle said:

For me, it’s Bringing Out the Dead. Really hoping this can receive a proper 4k restoration some day.

Scorsesee with Nicholas Cage about ambulance drivers. Yeah I have that film on dvd it’s a great film. I think. Not much said about it these days.

I went to buy a copy of Killers of the flower moon and was horrified it’s not on physical media. Only in Italy does it have a blu-ray release. They really are trying to kill off physical media.

Godzilla (2014)

This film needs a Special Edition. It was a very enjoyable movie albeit with complaints.

  1. Not enough Kaiju action

  2. It felt like stuff was missing

  3. Overly dark Tranfer

It’s another title where Gareth Edwards was shadowed by Gilroy coming in to do a final pass on the edit. But it seems Edwards is less afflicted here than Rougue One’s changes and ultimately Gareth Edwards walked away from Godzilla trilogy after Rogue One which he was slated to helm.

There is quite a bit of information floating around about this Extended or Directors Cut and for the most part it sounds good.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MT_fZOlx-9I

And the Novel based on the script.

https://wikizilla.org/wiki/Godzilla:_The_Official_Movie_Novelization

The Novel seems pretty accurate account. I especially like the deformed radioactive miners in the phillipines that would have really given it an unsettled feeling.

So More Character scenes for the most part. Which is good but still only small whiffs of monster action. I think that formula is better though. Just look at King of the Monsters the sequal… A terrible mess of a movie with very poor writing and horrible characters tonally awful. Which brings to my attention one scene in King of the Monsters which may have been lifted from the original 2014 version. Not only is it the only good scene in KOTM but it is also the only scene that has the same tone as 2014 original.

The scene is a board room meeting where they discuss what to do about the monsters and how it effects the planet and civilization to which Ken Watanabe quips about Godzilla being the saviour or something.

This scene feels like it was the ending scene of the 2014 movie to me. And I would be unsurprised if it was lifted from it.

So far as extra Monster action that was removed there is the scene after Golden Gate where fighter jet’s attack near Alcatraz which is unreleased. There is also smatterings of extended shots or alternate angles of Kaiju fighting.

The recent TV series expanded on the Bikinni Atoll Nuclear test and I think perhaps that would perhaps be enough to satify fans a bit on more Godzilla too.

Essentially KOTM has no reason to exist nor does any other of the strange monster verse stuff idea aside from Kong Skull Island. Everything else seems like junk being churned out.

If I were them I would consolidate and do good service to the 2014 Godzilla effort and pretty much forget the rest apart from Kong Skull Island film which was good too.