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- #1331887
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- Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Care to share some of them?
Care to share some of them?
I might try to make the glowing effect more intense and see how that looks. I actually have it oscillate more rapidly when it is in Ben’s hand, as if the lightsaber is adjusting to Ben’s intensity.
I’m not sure what would be a good alternative effect that could be applied to the lightsaber. Since the instability of the Kylo Ren blade has some symbolic meaning, I feel the Skywalker Saber effect should have some equivalent symbolism for Rey’s state of being.
I have mentioned before that I was a bit disappointed that the Skywalker saber did change at all, really, despite TLJ creating the opportunity for Rey to build a saber of her own. Since we can’t give her a new lightsaber, I thought it would be interesting if broken crystal resulted in some kind of visual effect that paralleled the instability of Kylo Ren’s cracked crystal. But instead of it being fiery and unstable, it could pulsate rhythmically. This is sort of an example of what I was thinking. This first test is really subtle, maybe too subtle, but I think it gives the saber a living, breathing quality to it.
This was a good idea! The ROTJ stuff reminds me of the rambling posts I used to write on your old thread. 😅
I wonder if we could have the dyad concept introduced in The Force Awakens. Maybe when Kylo and Snoke first speak via hologram, it could go something like this.
Snoke: There has been an awakening. Have you felt it?
Kylo Ren: The dark side…
Snoke: -And the light.
Kylo Ren: A dyad in the Force…
Then as Nev mentioned, we get further exposition in TLJ.
Snoke: Darkness rises! And light to meet it… I warned my young apprentice that as he grew stronger, his equal in the light would rise. Skywalker, I assumed, wrongly.
And of course, we get the Force bond which kind of hammers in that connection.
And I think something further you could do is seed the Force whispers in a place or two in TFA, like Nev did for Starlight, and it kind of gives this feeling that Rey is being guided throughout the films by a supernatural force. Then, in the climax of TROS, as she is chanting “Be with me” and the camera floats up to the sky, we could once again hear the indecipherable Force whispers, but this time they crystallize into the voices of the Jedi. This could help give the implication that the spirits of the Jedi have been guiding Rey all along. This could give some extra weight to this moment, since it might feel more like a pay off than it was before.
If everybody’s inspired to join the fight by Luke’s sacrifice specifically saying “For Skywalker” and all, that can also be another interpretation of the title. The Rise of Skywalker being the galaxy rising up to avenge Luke Skywalker. I love it! I’ll try to send some recordings today.
Agreed! This is actually what I assumed the title meant the day the teaser was released.
Stay safe, man!
I’ve used Resolve (on Mac) for projects in the past year or two and didn’t run into many issues. But the last update I used, which was around October 2019, had this issue where it would only export 5-10 seconds of my project before crashing. I basically had to export my whole project that way and then paste it all together in Premiere. It was a nightmare. Hopefully they’ve fixed this issue since then.
Some people have switched to just Resolve, but there’s going to be growing pains if you aren’t used to it. The best thing to do is to watch tutorials in your free time in order to learn the ins-and-outs of the software, and understand what its strengths and weaknesses are.
God, that would be really awful. They would never do that. - Me, early 2019.
I guess this might not be useful for Ascendent, but rather than try to rescore the kiss scene, I wonder if it would feel more natural if you were to place parts of that track into one or two of the previous films? Like when they touch hands in TLJ, you could replace the Force theme, which I feel gets overused somewhat in the Sequel Trilogy, with a part from the Farewell track. You could retroactively establish it as their love motif.
EDIT:
I’ll be honest, I really really don’t care for Reylo, but it is undeniably really hot. We should lean into that. - JJ Abrams to Chris Terrio
Hahaha, damn, that would be good.
poppasketti said:
I even managed to sneak in an extremely minor FX tweak (don’t bother looking for it, it’s not something anyone else would notice, even with sharp eyes, and the payoff is extremely small; it’s just peace of mind for me).
desperately goes frame by frame looking for the tweak.
Seriously, Poppa, congrats on all the hard work.
STC.
Yes, seriously, please don’t share anything from there.
This isn’t real. Whoever posted this just reversed the shot.
It’s very cool!
One thing I wonder though, since Rey’s saber is yellow at the end, whether it might be more fitting to have Leia’s be yellow as well. It would be an illustration of Rey carrying on Leia’s legacy even if we lose the ‘Rey Skywalker’ moment, and actually might be more powerful as just the color callback than anything she could say.
I think the emotional connection is a strong argument for that, and plus you’d actually get to see a yellow saber in action a little. I feel like if they made a better connection to the yellow saber and the rising yellow sun, it would make a better connection to: yellow, yellow sun, hope is like the sun, rays of light, Rey.
I do have a few reasons why I like purple. The biggest reason, Carrie seemed she might’ve picked purple if she had a choice, and if Sam Jackson got to pick I think the Princess certainly should’ve. Also, by having her saber be purple, you’d get every lightsaber color seen in film all appear in the final movie.
Another, more “out there“ reason I like it is that the purple-almost pink, hue of the saber, when paired with the blue Skywalker saber in the climax of the film, could be symbolic of the anima and animus coming together, represented by Rey and Ben. Lucas was really into Campbell and Jung, and the dark side is basically symbolic of the Shadow, so I think it might be interesting to lean into that symbolism of the merging of the masculine and feminine.
But once the effects are applied, it shouldn’t be too complicated to play with the colors and also see how yellow looks in motion.
A quick and dirty test of something else I would like to see. (Click image to see test video)
Well, I already do know some of those things don’t have to be totally excised to work. Also, you came up with that clever way to cut the Rey/Luke conversation without mentioning Palpatine, I wouldn’t be surprised if you end up being the one to figure out how to make some of these other changes work!
But despite all of my saying this, I think Dom has a clear idea how to cut it, and should definitely stick with what he has in mind.
I think you would have to cut less than you think. If you never saw the movie before, you probably wouldn’t even notice the difference, pacing-wise. At the very least, you might want to insert dialogue here and there to replace some of the dialogue you remove.
But any explanation that tries to fit her parents into the narrative just feels a little convoluted. I think TROS, and Rey’s story, would honestly benefit from a straight-forward conflict of dealing with the potential darkness within her, the same darkness that exists in everybody. Not just the grandchildren of Sith Lords.
At least I think it would be worth trying to edit it that way first. I genuinely think it would be less of a headache than to try and get the parent narrative to work and not feel complicated. Maybe I’m wrong though!
EDIT: Totally just my opinion though. Maybe it could work.
I honestly think you could get away with not having her parents involved in the story at all.
Good point. I do think the line NFB added would be enough to make it clear that they’re an old fleet rather than newly constructed.
Maybe the crawl could refer to an ambiguous “Imperial contingency”. Basically, Kylo and the First Order are looking for a contingency the Empire left in case of their defeat. They don’t know what it is exactly, but they know it could help them.
Ok, here’s a quick mockup: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dWl61mMYFgDO3DAVQO-K_1UNZejk5CPC/view?usp=sharing
That’s pretty cool. I think for it to work you’d need to pitch-shift it up just a little, and then extend the shots before and after to give it a little breathing room. That should give it enough to blend and feel like something he’s saying just a little under his breath.
I agree. Something more like this?
Yeah, that blends in really really well. I still don’t like the term “Final Order” but I think the “bygone” line totally works.
Starkiller, thanks for sharing that. So yeah, you could make it where Kylo is looking for the fleet, and discovering that Palpatine is alive could be more of a surprise. You could set up in the crawl that the First Order needs something that will help solidify their rule. The fact that it is a lost Imperial fleet could be made clear in the crawl itself.
I guess the biggest issue is that they all have the big laser cannons on the bottom, but I’d be more willing to believe that the Sith Cult modified pre-existing Destroyers rather than build them all from scratch, don’t you think?