RogueLeader

Horizontally stretch out every shot of Boba Fett in the OT to more closely match Temuera Morrison’s body-type.

Hal 9000 said:

3PO bolts upright, eyes red.

“This dagger is a pathway to the dark side of the Force. It’s weirder must surrender to their own inner darkness to allow it to lead the way to the Wayfinder… … Only this blade tells.”

Exactly. And we can make however many iterations as we want to see what sounds right, since it’s all digital. Then we could even apply some distortion to it, but the key thing is that it’s Anthony Daniels’ voice.

Not that we will add anything else to Ascendant, but I never imagined we would’ve gone to Fortnite AND Tiktok for edit assets…

I like the idea of R2 telling 3PO about their past adventures, rather than just restoring his memories. This was the proof-of-concept I did awhile back for this idea. We don’t have to use it for Ascendant, but this might be relevant again now that we have this software available.

https://vimeo.com/434479633

Holy crap. We could potentially make 3PO never getting his memory back work with this.

I think this would work for little bits and pieces, but I think you can see that you won’t get any emotion out of these lines. This would work best for filling in important exposition for an edit.

EDIT: This could be used for the dagger idea we had awhile back as well.

I had assumed the DJ was staying in a cell for a reason. That maybe he was safe there from potential threats, since he was basically guarded by armed security. He clearly can enter and leave whenever he wants. Or maybe that’s just where he wanted to meet Finn and Rose to prove his skill. But I could see how that might bring up some questions though.

I’m pretty sure that take was discussed back in the day in regards to Hal’s edit. I think it was played with, but the timing/speeding up of the shot didn’t feel right or something. At normal speed I think it happened a little too quickly or something. Maybe someone could try it again though.

Regarding DJ being the Master Codebreaker all along, I wonder if you could do it without the whole red plom bloom thing.

Idk, I was thinking that maybe the Abednedo guy that gets them arrested could be working for DJ. Like, when we first see him talking to the cops, we could give him an alien dub and subtitles that say, “He heard they might be coming. Find them!”

Then in the casino, he could say, “There! Put them in cell 38!”

This would make them finding him less coincidental. Maybe Max contacted him to let them know they were coming, and then DJ had his person bring them to him.

CaptainFaraday said:

Awesome document! It’s way less dialogue edits than I thought it would be.

For the last one, I had an idea, but your mileage may vary on how it would alter the scene in a practical editing sense. Have Palpatine say, “But the only family you have here…” and then he opens the roof to show all the Resistance losing the battle. He later refers to them as her family too, unless I’m misremembering it, so it would lean into the “found family” theme of the movie to make the villain derisive towards it.

I like this idea. Anything where we can retain the most dialogue as possible. While maybe that approach isn’t the necessarily the best, if we remove too much dialogue it might come off as noticeably edited.

Haha, yeah, I feel like off-screen dialogue could be a useful tool in a TLJ edit.

I think I suggested once having an offscreen Rebel officer tell Holdo that “transports have arrived undetected” when some rebels escape one of the ships that run out of fuel. The point being that it shows Holdo testing her plan. After this, she knows that they could all take transports down to a planet without the First Order detecting them.

I also suggested on Faraday’s TLJ thread that you could have some rebels chattering about a potential spy during Holdo’s briefing. Just something quick, like, “Is there a spy?” Even though one of our main characters don’t bring it up, having the idea just being uttered could help add some general mistrust in the air.

I hope you don’t mind the general edit discussion on your thread, Nev!

I think what I would do to address that would be to add a green light to the wide shots of the hologram to where we want to say the tracker is. Then add some kind of flickering/distortion effect so it looks like they’re shifting between different holograms, which should hide them zooming in and out of the ship.

The “slice” on the graphic lining up with the collision point is a nice detail I hadn’t considered before.

I think the idea I’ve leaned towards a lot in the past is to somehow imply that the hyperspace tracker is partially in hyperspace. So maybe you could add some hyperspace effect within the window of the tracker to make that connection clearer. And maybe change the sound it makes to better connect it with hyperspace.

Perhaps only the tracker is partially in hyperspace, or it radiates to the whole ship. And during the build up to the strike, you could cut back to the tracker to imply that is what Holdo is about to hit. And we can change other graphics in the film to better imply that is what Holdo is targeting.

I think the benefit to this is that it balances out the strength of this new technology with an equally powerful weakness. It can track ships through hyperspace, but at the cost of being vulnerable to light speed ramming. This would also help address why this tech may not be used in the future. Great reward, but also a great risk.

A little unrelated, but I also think it could be cool to add little bits during the opening battle to show that it takes some time for a ship to “scan” a ship and then be able to track it through hyperspace. This would help show that if Poe hadn’t have stayed and destroyed the Dreadnought, they wouldn’t have had enough time to scan the Raddus and then track it through hyperspace. This would also help give some leeway in the lore for the Resistance to still make quick strikes on First Order targets without being tracked. But maybe the risk of getting rammed, like I suggested earlier, would be enough to make the First Order reluctant to constantly use the tracking tech.

sherlockpotter said:

And…if the edit will be re-rendered anyway, might I suggest one final tweak to the finale in the spirit of the season?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bcwm4AM0cxorLSwpSC2unc0jNK1B7HTQ/view?usp=sharing

Hahaha, that totally got me. 😂

Also, if it comes to that, maybe someone who downloaded it could just upload it to their drive share that link until the normal link works again.

Feel like we need to add a line that goes, “Great shot, Lumpy!” followed by a Wookiee roar during the battle of Exegol just to honor this timeless classic.

Yes, Naboo, Coruscant, Bespin and Jakku are in the end sequence.

Not exactly in regards to Ascendant, but I think it would be cool if there was a montage where we saw different planets hear Poe and Finn’s rallying call. Like maybe we could see the Falcon flying in hyperspace, hear Finn and Poe’s speech but with some radio/recorded distortion, and then cutting to establishing shots of different planets or something. Though I think it is difficult to try and reuse shots from other films/shows without it feeling too fanedit-y.

At the very least, I think it would be cool if when we saw the Falcon take off and fly away from the base, we also heard a bit of their speech with some audio recording distortion that fades off as the Falcon flies away, making it clear that it was POE (and Finn) and their rallying call that brought the galaxy together, not just “Lando”.

Movies Remastered said:

If you’re going with the one layer Saber let me know once things are laid up, if there’s any missing parts I’ll try to help where I can. If its just one layer, no scale change or masking around object etc it should be fairly simple. Just not sure how quick my computer will let me work…

Or I could teach someone the effect to get it done in time.

This might be something we can discuss MR.

Yeah, seriously, thanks Lawdog! This really saved us a lot of work.

One of the new TV spots also has a cool shot of some Tusken raiders walking through the desert. Just a random guess, but this might be a flashback too. These could be the Tuskens that find Boba and rescue him.

Wild speculation, but I’m guessing that Tuskens were the one’s that found him after he escaped the Sarlacc, and maybe he has been living with them to some extent over the past few years, which explains his robes and skills with a gaffi stick.

I also wonder if we’ll find out that Boba got amnesia after being rescued. This would explain why Boba waited so long to try and get his armor back. Maybe Fennec knew Boba from before and helped him remember who he is whenever he saved her.

I’m also guessing that shot of Boba in the bacta tank isn’t from when he was initially rescued from the Sarlacc, but it’s something that he does at the beginning of the season to explain why he no longer has the facial scarring like he did in Mando S2.

I’m not Hal but I’m pretty sure that is a hard no.

Nev, I can’t recall but is there is some kind of sound that goes along with the activating/deactivating of the tracking device? I also wonder if the light could blink rather than stay static.

People might have one preference over the other but honestly Sherlock’s also sounds super natural. I don’t think people would think anything is off with it.

Congrats on the long-awaited release of your project! Can’t wait to see if I can find your hidden additions.

Yeah, I believe I was given a version of the film/edit that had already been color corrected. It looks like the first few shots of that video are the film’s original color.

EDIT: Can’t believe you both thought of Steamed Hams.

Bigger Luke, meet Longer Anakin.

I just talked to Chase last night so I’m sure he can share it later. I think it is still early morning for him right now.

EDIT: Also, were any of those extra shots from the BTS considered for giving the film more time to breathe a little?

sherlockpotter said:

I’d rather just remove her parents entirely. Come to think of it, if we remove her parents sparing her from Ochi, would it be better to just outright remove the implication that Ochi was hunting Rey at all? I think the only other time it would be mentioned would be the scene with Finn and Poe - “He was sent to find a little girl on Jakku” or whatever. Could that scene be reframed to just be D-O has the data on Exegol because Ochi was involved with the Sith?

Don’t get me wrong, I also would prefer to remove her parents entirely. I was just thinking what could be done with minimal changes. The least amount of effort. It’s been two years since release and we still have very few Rey Nobody edits. Plus, if you take out her parents, you have to cut out a lot of the stuff regarding Ochi and the ship, as well as heavily change the Force bond duel, since it revolves around what happened to her parents.

If Hal feels like a whole other edit would be necessary, then I think you could make these changes, but it seems like Hal would still prefer to keep the changes minimal.

Again, I think the big thing that needs to be figured out is the Force bond duel scene. If all focus was put on figuring that out, then I think the rest of the changes will come down to trimming/cutting different bits and pieces. I think for it to work well, Kylo needs to be talking about Palpatine killing the Resistance/her friends. A part of my issue has been getting the dialogue to work, but also having to do the hard work of readjusting all of the audio tracks the echo Kylo’s original dialogue.

I wonder if Old Man Luke has any dialogue to say basically, “I know your folks were losers, but we’re not defined by our parents. Some things are stronger than blood.” Probably easier just to cut it entirely though.

It probably would be easier to cut it. So much of Luke’s dialogue during that scene is on Rey, and not showing Luke talk at all, so it would be a shame to have to cut one of the few shots where you see him talk, but I think it would make things simpler.