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#1258510
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Discussing more of the potentials spoilers below.

dgraham414 said:

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2018/12/episode-ix-rumors-timeline.html

I hope this isn’t true. Specifically the idea that Rey would just put the Skywalker lightsaber back together… it just seems like a cop out to the toxic side of the fandom.

Also Kylo just reconstructing his helmet. It’s just moving the story backwards instead of forwards…

Thoughts?

I had a similar reaction initially as well, since I kind of hoped Rey would have a double-bladed lightsaber.

Though the idea of Rey repairing the Skywalker Saber and Kylo Ren reconstructing his helmet, especially the way Kylo’s helmet is described, has reminded many of the Japanese art of Kintsugi, which is when one uses a golden (or other kind of) lacquer to reassemble the broken pieces of pottery. The idea is that the imperfection itself is a kind of beauty, and how it can represent taking our own scars and implementing the past to become stronger personally. I think this idea fits in very well with what has been presented, but I am sure others will see it as JJ “retconning” Rian, but guess we’ll just have to wait and see. I definitely don’t think this creative decision shouldn’t worry anyone too much though. Might be overthinking thinking it otherwise.

Here’s a video talking about Kintsugi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT55_u8URU0

Also wanted to mention two things.
One, just because Kylo’s helmet is back doesn’t really represent a regression of his character. Despite becoming ruler of the galaxy, he seemed to be at an emotional low point by the end of TLJ, so him returning to it either to hide his own emotions or to cement an intimidating image as the new Supreme Leader makes sense to me. Also, we don’t really know how much of the mask we’ll see. We’ll probably see more of the mask than we did in TLJ, but we will see more of Adam Driver’s face still than we did in TFA. Maybe 50/50 or 25/75. Like he wears the mask in public then takes it off in private and other emotional scenes.

Secondly, the description we get about Rey’s lightsaber is very very vague. From the reddit post:

They also talked about Rey’s lightsaber and how it’s back and has been reforged. They said the reforge is not shown on screen.

What it looked like wasn’t shown on screen, so to me it still isn’t clear what the saber will look like. She could have just put the saber back together, or “reforge” could mean she has remade it into a new variant. A double-bladed saber would make sense considering her skill with a staff, plus the kyber crystal being split into two. But, it is also possible that she just repaired the original design. At the very least, I would hope that there will be a clear indication that it was repaired to keep with that kintsugi idea, I would be very surprised if it looked exactly the same, since less variation means less MERCHANDISING!

The part that I’m little less interested in is the description of the new droid. I’m sure it’ll be cute, but with this being the last Skywalker film, I’m hoping we will get a nice sendoff for R2-D2 and C-3PO. Hopefully this new droid won’t get in the way of that.

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#1258309
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The Last Jedi : a Fan Edit <strong>Ideas</strong> thread
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I have been thinking a little more about Finn’s arc recently since Poppasketti released his own edit, heavily inspired by Hal’s, with some additional ideas from darthrush and others.

I wanted to share this video by Lessons from the Screenplay (which has probably been shared already and I’ve forgotten) that reiterated some thoughts on Finn’s arc. I’m sort of using this as a basis for how improvements to his arc should be approached.

https://youtu.be/GYN2Lp9oHMk

I think poppasketti and Hal both do a great job at finding ways to improve it.
The deleted scene of him stating that his allegiance is not with the Resistance is important to make his arc clear, for example, shouldn’t have been left on the cutting room floor. I wanted to present another moment, that if can be modified, could also help improve his arc.

This specifically relates to when Rose is dragging him to the brig. I think it would help his arc if it felt like going through with this mission was a choice he made, either help the Resistance or be stuck in the brig. As it is, Finn seems quick to recruit himself for this mission.

I’m still not sure if this could work, but in my head I think this would be the simplest solution:

Rose: But who knows where the breaker room on a Star Destroyer is?

Finn looks at the brig, then looks back at Rose.

Could either continue the scene as is, or cut straight to the next scene.

This would require some vfx work to make these shots though. First, you would need to piece together a wide shot in order to make an insert shot of the brig door.

You would also need to find/create shots of Finn looking toward the door, and looking up at Rose. This might be difficult because the scene cuts back and forth quickly, and never sits very long on someone not speaking.
Alternatively, when Rose poses that question to Finn, if any decent shot of Finn not talking for a moment exists, it could be used to give the impression that Finn is seeing a way out, and cutting straight to the next scene allows the audience to imagine Finn making a deal with Rose.

This is the best idea I have at the moment but maybe someone can see alternatives that I’m missing. But I think it would help make Finn’s motivations clearer in the film though, and have a stronger arc as well.

This second idea is a little more relevant since it is pretty debated, and something Hal and poppa’s edit deal with differently.

I think the work done on the Finn’s sacrifice scene with poppa’s is a really great alternative to the theatrical. I do think though some people could still argue that we are losing a final lesson Finn learns from Rose in that moment by removing her saving him. It’s overall importance won’t really be made clear until IX, but if others felt like doing something with that scene, but still keeping that character moment, I have thought of another option for it.

With the idea that Finn gets shot down, what if we maintained the build up of Finn about to get shot down, maybe see/hear more shots pass him during his approach, finally one of them aims and fires, but Rose comes in at the last minute and knocks him out of the way just in time, and in the wide shot we see a shot or two pass them by and hit the ground?

I think partially why the scene originally bothered a lot of people is that Finn stopping the canon is sort of ambiguous, so the idea that even if there was a slim chance that Finn could have stopped it, it feels like Rose damned the Resistance. But if it is made as clear as possible that Finn would have died, it would make Rose’s actions seem not as selfish. If you focus more on him not reaching it before getting shot down like the rest of the skimmers, the futility of Finn’s actions would be undeniable, I think.

Originally I tried to think of ways of having the canon immediately fire as soon as they’re out of the way, but I think this idea would work better.

I know this moment still probably has a bad taste in a lot of people’s mouths, but I wanted to present another alternative that required less changes to the film but still provided the necessary change to fix the problem many have with it, which I think this change could do.

The reason I keep coming back to this is because I have a feeling the lessons Finn learns in this film will be important to his role in IX. More specifically, I think his newfound role in the Resistance, and this idea of “saving” rather than “killing” will be important for Finn in a potential plot point of him saving the Stormtroopers in IX. This is just a wild guess, but I feel like the story is building up to this. If Finn is just simply a Resistance soldier and what he learned from 8 doesn’t carry over, then I guess it won’t matter as much.

I’m personally curious if that slight change could make that scene work.

I also hope in time to see more edits that try to modify certain scenes for improvement rather than cutting them altogether, like the Fathier chase, but I do understand why many on here choose to remove it!

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#1258223
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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The old Jedi Order took students from infancy in order to control their emotional attachments, which they saw as gateways to the dark side. This is why they were so reluctant to take on Anakin as a Jedi. I think it gave the wrong impression that learning how to use the Force took years, when that really isn’t the entirely the case. It has more to do with belief, and one’s ability to “let go of your conscious self”.

It also surprises me a little that people haven’t considered as much that the Force itself has changed between the trilogies. The Force isn’t a static ability, it’s dynamic and connected to life itself, making it in a way alive.

Episode 7 is literally called The Force Awakens. What does that mean? Is it not possible that this awakening is not partially responsible for the feats we’ve seen across the board in the new films, like Kylo Ren freezing blaster bolts, Rey’s fast-growing abilities, their subsequent Force-Skype sessions, Leia pulling herself back to the ship, Luke’s Force projection, even broom boy’s subtle Force pull?

You could even argue this began with Luke in the OT, the first real student of the Force since the Jedi Purge. He really only had a few weeks at most of official training with Yoda, but in Return of the Jedi, only a year later with no additional training under Yoda, he is on the verge of officially becoming a Jedi.

It raises some questions about the nature of the Force. Does the overall use of the Force have an affect on its potential in existing Force-users? Does the Force have a will of its own to choose who it acts through? Did training Jedi from infancy have a side-effect of limiting their relationship with the Force in ways that didn’t exist for those who discovered it at adulthood? Is the Force just like an ocean, where the tide can rise and fall?

I personally think these questions about the Force should really never be answered fully, and should remain mysterious, simple-yet-complicated, and sometimes contradictory, much like the Tao that inspired it, and also as a concept of a universal religion-symbol that George meant it to be, since religions are also endlessly debated upon.

I think the important theme we are meant to take from the Force is the ideas of faith and belief, the crux of all religions, and the internal power we can get from faith in our own lives, religious or not. Luke struggles with the Force in the OT because of his doubt in the Force and his own personal self-doubt.

Rey on the other hand grew up with the legend of Luke Skywalker and the Jedi, and not long after learning about the reality of the them, she slowly learns that she’s also connected to this Force and begins her own journey of self-discovery and self-actualization.

With broom boy, moments before his Force use, he is being told the story of Luke Skywalker’s grand stand against the evil First Order, with wonder in his eyes. He believes in the Jedi, in the Force, and that subtle moment, something he might not have even realized he did, is a representation of what the power of faith and hope can have in the world and in ourselves.

Anyway, just my two cents. Not trying to argue, just sharing my perspective.

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#1258217
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Was thinking about the opening scene of Return of the Jedi today and remember, well, how dull it feels compared to some of the other openings in the franchise.

The Star Destroyer entering frame overhead feels uninspired, and just copying the opening of A New Hope without adding anything new. The reveal of the Second Death Star isn’t much of a reveal, either. We just pan down and it takes up a very small portion of the frame, feeling rather insignificant.

While I don’t want to suggest an entirely new opening, I did want to discuss possibilities about making the concept of this opening a little more interesting.

First of all, I always wondered why Darth Vader didn’t go to Endor in his Super Star Destroyer. Instead, he takes a regular destroyer with two others backing him up. Because the smaller one’s are faster? Why not show off the Super Star Destroyer? One option to consider could be to pan down to a wide shot of the Super Star Destroyer rather than Endor and the Death Star. Either Vader’s shuttle could already be leaving the Destroyer and heading toward the camera when we pan down, or you could alter the shot of the shuttle exiting the Star Destroyer hangar by removing Endor and the Death Star and recolor the Star Destroyer hull to more closely match the Super Star Destroyer.

Regarding the Death Star, I wonder if it would be possible imply that the Death Star is completely covered in darkness, the sun being blocked by Endor maybe, and slowly reveal it as the sunlight exposes the surface. Maybe too much like Rogue One though? Maybe the Death Star itself is eclipsing the sun, and as the shuttle gets closer the sun breaks the horizon, similar to that shot of the Falcon escaping Bespin in ESB.

Another idea would be for the shuttle to come from around Endor, and have the Death Star slowly be revealed from behind the planet. Maybe one could rotoscope the shuttle interior shots to pull this idea off. Alternatively, you could also just pan down to a larger close-up of the Death Star to give its scale more justice (if HQ images of Death Star II are even available).

I think I would want to go with the approach where pre-existing elements could be used rather than having to use CGI that might not fit with the surrounding models/matte paintings.

Although I’m a little more iffy on this idea, I kind of think the music is also a little dull during this opening, and I wonder if a slight nod to the Death Star theme/motif or even the ANH Imperial motif could be implemented when we see the Death Star to make the opening feel a little more ominous. Like I said, I’m on the fence about messing with the soundtrack, but it could be worth messing with.

Anyway, wanted to get these ideas out there and see what you all thought could be done. Like I’ve said, I kind of think when it comes to changing the OT, less is more. The less that needs be changed but has the greatest effectiveness seems to be the sweet spot, but I would love to hear any ideas/opinions.

I would be interested to see if Ady would do something with his own opening for ROTJ:R, and this to me seems like the approach he would take.

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#1258206
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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DominicCobb said:

This thread is consistently the worst so I don’t really want to muck it up more but I have to say RogueLeader is maybe the only reasonable person to have ever posted on this site.

❤️

But honestly I understand a lot of the opinions on here, and I even shared some of them at one point or another, like Rey’s abilities or the First Order’s strength, but overtime I just came to my own conclusions that satisfied those questions for me.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Either RogueLeader is DominicCobb sock confirmed or you’re practicing self-deprecation. Either way, I approve.

With our powers combined we could become the ultimate SJW DISNEY SHILL

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#1258204
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Best Performance by an Actor/Actress in the Star Wars Movies
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This is a good idea for a thread! I’m gonna try to pick more underrated choices from each trilogy.

For the Prequels, I would definitely have to say Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine/Sidious. He basically plays two different characters, and he can easily go from kind/friendly, manipulative, to evil incarnate. He’s fun to watch, and his best scene probably has to be the Opera Scene in ROTS.

For the Original Trilogy, I have to agree with Nev and suggest Frank Oz as Yoda. I think the act of performing Yoda was a real pain for Oz, having to not really see who he was performing with, and being cramped underneath the hot stage with his hand up a puppet. But he made Yoda feel real, and made you feel the emotions that Yoda felt, whether it be curiosity, hesitation, disappointment, wisdom, etc.

For the Sequels, it is hard to choose because I think it has some of the best performances in the franchise, but for the amount of pressure I can only imagine he had to have been under, I think Mark Hamill gave his best performance as Luke Skywalker ever, even though he had only acted on-camera occasionally for the past several years. And considering how Hamill apparently didn’t agree with the choices made for his character in the film, he proved he could give the performance regardless of his own opinions, and he really got that pain and emotion across on screen.

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#1258194
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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If I may make a suggestion for the framing of the first shot.

One of the cool things about the opening shot of A New Hope, that none of the other films have besides ROTS arguably, is the visual symbolism used to tell us everything we need to know about the two sides in a single shot. The Rebels are small, like the blockade runner, desperately trying to escape from the massive Empire, represented by the hulking Star Destroyer that passes overhead and made audiences’ jaws drop back in 77.

Could it be possible to create a shot in the vein of this opening with The Phantom Menace? What if when we pan down to Naboo, we can see the entire planet in the shot? Maybe the camera cold be even farther away, and Naboo could be relatively small, even smaller than the planet we pan down to at the beginning of TFA.

This could help show Naboo as beautiful, but isolated and vulnerable.

And for an entrance in the vein of the Empire’s great debut in ANH, numerous Trade Federation ships could enter the frame from every angle, from the top, the bottom, the sides, swarming the planet and slowly “blocking” our view of the planet. Controls ships, transports, even starfighters.

We could have a beat of silence similar to what you have in your mock-up, maybe a bit longer to help build audience anticipation, waiting for something to happen, then suddenly we hear the rumble and screams of starships as they pass the camera by. It might initially be strange for the Federation to approach from a farther distance, but the Empire Strikes Back actually set up the idea that ships can sneak up on a planet’s defenses if they jump out of hyperspace far enough away from the planet. Coming out of lightspeed too close to Hoth is what allowed the Rebels to know the Empire was coming, and led to Ozzel being “punished” by Vader. And since it seems like the Naboo government doesn’t know what is going on at first, this would line up pretty well with that idea.

It is possible rendering dozens of ships might be out of your range with your available equipment, though, so I understand if you couldn’t even be capable of doing this.

As far as the visuals go, I wonder if you desaturated the initial shot if it would help blend in with the rest of the scene, since the colors of the film seem a little muted and “filmic” rather than really popping out. Also, I felt that the engine glow was a little too intense for the control ships. If you also went with the idea I mentioned, I would suggest reinserting the shot of the transports entering the atmosphere, since an extra shot might be needed since the fleet starts farther away from the planet.

Also, not as relevant, but have you considered pitching Amidala’s voice up to not make it as deep throughout the film?
While I personally don’t like the use of TFA music, I understand why you wanted to add a little something extra to the music, although it would be nice if you could find alternate music from the TPM soundtrack or another previous one. Just my two cents on that though!
This is a pretty cool opening. The best version of this idea I’ve seen. Also really dig the voices for the Nemoidians! Good job so far.

EDIT: I would say TFA also has a metaphorical opening shot, with the shadow of the First Order blotting out the “light”.

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#1257940
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<em><strong>ANDOR</strong></em> - Disney+ Series - A General Discussion Thread
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Interesting. Stephan Schiff was the show runner for the Americans. Haven’t seen it but I’ve heard good things about it. With the show dealing with Soviet Spies (from my understanding), it seems this will be right up his alley.

Another interesting tidbit.

Jared Bush (Moana) originated the project and wrote a pilot script and a bible.

Bush wrote Moana and Zootopia. Both were solid films, both showing Bush has a grasp on the fundamentals of character and storytelling, so I think this show looks like it is off to a good start.

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#1257937
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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Whew, even in the most heated debates, I think it is all great we can talk about Star Wars, a thing we all love both in similar and different ways, but reading through this thread is exhausting.

I totally empathize with a lot of the issues people have with the new films, I also have my own issues, like the lack of political context. I feel like I could discuss all of these issues and explain my own perspective in hopes it could address the issues many of you have, but I also feel like we’ve had similar discussions enough times before to know that none of us will probably leave with our minds changed, at least not anytime soon. Not trying to say the haters are just hard-headed or something like that, not at all.

I just want to share my thoughts for a second.

A few years before TFA came out, I came to really dislike the prequels, movies I grew up loving. I even outlined, recasted and rewrote a different version of the prequels based off the Star Wars Ring Theory.
Sure, it was fun to do, and it still is fun to imagine what the Clone Wars would’ve been like if had been a war against Republic Troopers and Mandalorian Clones, but in retrospect it sort of felt like a waste of time.

Regardless, I think going through that process made me really think about what those movies were trying to say, and in the end it made me appreciate the prequels we already have even more. And while the movies clearly have problems (enter fan edits), I love the overall story they tell.

Maybe you won’t ever come around on the new films, and if you ever want to talk about them with me I would be happy to share my opinion, but I think for all of the people it is just going to take time for them to really get into them. I’m not saying they’re perfect, I’m over on the fan edit threads all the time trying to think of ways to improve them, but I think the overall story fits appropriately with the saga as a whole.

I just think saying the franchise is dead to you is a little melodramatic. Come on, try to have fun with them and be a little open-minded!

I know all of the criticism is coming from a place of love, we have a high standard for these movies and want them to be great. I still think there’s room for improvement, but I also think there is also a lot to love already too.

I just wish people didn’t worry so much and just try to go with the flow more. Try to understand rather than tear apart.

Now if the new Star Wars shows, Benioff & Weiss’ movies or Rian trilogy all turn out to be mediocre, then by all means hand me a pitchfork and let’s vote with our wallets, but I think we just have to be a little patient. Patience not only to come to understand the films we already have, but also to get more stories that we want, fresh adventures away from what we know, maybe even Old Republic stuff, but these things take time to make. They’ve been planning these new stories for awhile, but all of this can’t come out at once. Just give it time, they’re working on it. Hopefully since they’re not rushing, that will reflect on the story. I guess we’ll find out though!

Anyway, sorry to ramble. I don’t think everything in this new era of Star Wars is perfect, but there is a lot to enjoy, and I think they’re still figuring everything out and the best may be yet to come. I think us living in an age of instant gratification, we’re quick to forget the past and slow to try and really see the big picture. I just feel like the same people who say Star Wars is dead will be praising how much they love Star Wars years from now if Filoni was ever made president of Lucasfilm or if he got his own Old Republic live-action series or something.

I dunno, not trying to be too harsh, I think as fans we should be critical, but I also wish you guys would try to enjoy the ride a little bit more too!

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#1257933
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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (Released)
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Big Poppa! So glad you’re releasing your first edit! I hope you stick around here awhile. I’m looking forward to when IX is released and we could all share ideas for edits for the whole saga. I’d love a PM for your edit as well!

Wanted to make a few notes on what has been discussed. I think the amount of work needed on the hologram deleted scene should bring into question if it is really necessary, or worth the effort needed. I personally don’t think so, the moment Finn picks up the beacon to Rey is enough I think.

Regarding Phasma, I have said this before and I’m sure it is annoying to those who’ve read it repeatedly, but I still think the best way to improve Phasma’s character is to not have her be the one to take down the shields in TFA. I think that it is what made a lot of people not take her character seriously. If she only appeared briefly in TFA, then her appearance in TLJ and showdown with Finn would feel more appropriate and less of a letdown, because the way she was humiliated in TFA is what lead people to think she would get some payback in TLJ. Just my two cents though.

I think you handled it well in your edit though, because like you said removing it probably helps the pacing. And by not seeing what happened to her, we can either assume she died or was injured if she does show up in IX, unlikely but it’ll allow your edit to hold up regardless.
I think adding the vfx shot off BB-8 really helps make it work too. Solid job on that.

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#1257796
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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It would also be cool if we saw Dooku on the council earlier in the film to help set this moment up. To see him with the other Jedi, and after them not taking Qui-Gon’s concerns seriously enough, he leaves. Though I think it still would feel a little confusing if it isn’t made clear in this film that Dooku was Qui-Gon’s master, though. Otherwise, it might be strange to end with this random guy watching Qui-Gon’s funeral. Maybe you want to leave that a mystery? I don’t know, just feels a little open-ended, possibly.

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#1255248
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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The orange saber works pretty well with Dooku.

On another note, a little detail I think would make a nice addition in ROTS would be for Anakin’s eyes to be yellow in the shot of him brooding on Mustafar.

Although I’ve kind of felt the “Sith eyes” were a cheap way to show when someone is consumed by the dark side, I think it is sort of necessary to visualize what the Sith, and Anakin in this instance, are feeling. I think having a little extra moment of Ananin visibly consumed by the dark side could help justify Anakin’s actions and personality later when he is with Padme and Obi-Wan. He finally understands the power of the dark side, which is why he seems so confident in his “new powers”. Sidious even tells Anakin that only after he has killed all of the Jedi, and eventually the separatist leaders, that he would be strong enough to save Padme. Just a thought though.

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#1255043
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<em><strong>ANDOR</strong></em> - Disney+ Series - A General Discussion Thread
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Well according to the comic that shows how Cassian met K2, apparently the K2 droid models have an on/off switch on their backs!

If they do introduce K2 into the show, I’m guessing they will adapt the comic somewhat for live-action.
Though I am curious about how long this Cassian show has been in development. If they knew this was a possibility, would they have still told that story in a comic.
This leads me to think that the entirety of the show will either take place before Cassian got K2, or after he reprogrammed him.

But I think people would be disappointed if we got a show about Cassian without K2-SO, and personally I would like to see how they would go about adapting a comic story into live-action, making necessary changes without overtly contradicting the canon. Exploring that possibility opens up other doors too, like eventually getting to see the Maul/Old Ben showdown from Rebels in live-action eventually, for example. I guess we’ll see in two years, probably!

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#1255041
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<em><strong>ANDOR</strong></em> - Disney+ Series - A General Discussion Thread
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Yeah, I could definitely see a young Leia showing up in later seasons possibly, which would mean she would continue to get older and get closer to the right age. The only reason I think they would not want to cast her would be because they might want a less recognizable actress to play Leia, so we just see “Leia” rather than Eleven. Though honestly with the right costume and hairdo, I think she could pull it off.

For me, I am curious of what we will see of Cassian’s characterization. Will we be introduced to him when he is already in the Rebellion, or will we get to see how he got recruited? Will we see him as a child during the Clone Wars? Maybe we will get flashbacks to his childhood and/or recruitment, who knows. I definitely think though that we see Cassian grow to become weighed down by the morally questionable actions he must take for the Rebellion. There is a lot of potential I think with the idea of him having this noble idea of fighting the good fight when he initially joins or whenever he becomes an intelligence officer, to him slowly begin to realize how the line between right and wrong is blurred during war.

I could picture a scenario where he presented with a difficult choice during a mission, and he ends up going with the “moral” choice, but the choice to follow his moral code ends up having dire consequences. Maybe by choosing to not kill one person ends up getting other members of the Rebellion killed.

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#1254839
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Most Baffling Complaint of a Star Wars Movie
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darklordoftech said:

For example, the EU said that the Rule of Two was created at the same as the Sith disappearing, while in the movies by themselves, Yoda knowing about the Rule of Two makes perfect sense.

This has been something I’ve spent some time wondering about. I believe the EU explained this by becoming aware that the Sith survived, but killed someone who they thought was the last Sith Lord.

Though some things in the new canon do raise some questions. For example, the Sith Temple on Malachor introduced in Rebels has a series of tasks built into it necessitate two Sith working together, which seems to imply that the Temple was built by Sith who followed the Rule of Two, but since clearly a battle between an army of both Sith and Jedi took place there, it would seem to contradict that philosophy.

From the Clone Wars Episode where Yoda speaks to a vision of Darth Bane:

Yoda: Created the rule of two, you did.

Darth Bane: The Sith killed each other, victims of their own greed. But from the ashes of destruction, I was the last survivor. I chose to pass my knowledge onto only one, I created a legacy so resilient, that now you come before me.

This seems to generally match up with Bane’s Legends history.

What is weird is that Yoda seems to know the philosophy by name, and they are familiar with Darth Bane’s history and that he has a tomb on Moraband/Korriban somehow. But, in TPM, Ki-Adi-Mundi also claimed that the Sith had been extinct for a millennia.

According to Wookieepedia, the Jedi learned about the Rule of Two and Darth Bane, eventually confronted Bane and killed him, believing that they killed the Sith once and for all. But somehow, his apprentice survived and continued in secret, which explains how the Jedi know about it.

So, if they knew about the Rule of Two and killed Darth Bane, the Jedi must have believed his apprentice had also died somehow.

I hope they eventually explore this in a movie or tv-series. It would be interesting to see how they would approach this story in the new canon.