Thanks! Have made the video public. Now, how best to spread the word that it’s available? ponders
Been having a bit of a play around with the file, and came up with this. I’ve left it unlisted on YouTube for the moment, pending any comments, requests or suggestions you or the other mods might have, but subject to that, I’m more than happy to make it available to the general fan editing user base to use. (It’s quite long for a vanity plate, at 39 seconds, so I’ll render out a ~10-second variant with just the 8-bit Death Star and the text logo next, but I like the full version as a standalone thing.)
Let me know what you think!
Seems you read my mind. I actually made a 3D animation of the DS plans just for shits and giggles earlier this year; I was just thinking I should be able to turn it into something suitable. I just uploaded it to my design Instagram, if you’d like to have a look (along with a comic-book-shaded variant FE logo):
That’s neat! Hmm. I’m not much (ie. any at all) of a coder, but I could certainly do something on the design side of things. Let me know what kind of data you want to display and I’ll take a stab at a proof of concept.
My 2D mock-up (from a while ago now) is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBriFmXXkWg (I had a thought, since then, that a version that involved the 8-bit Death Star would be cool; I might try two variants.)
You can see a few seconds of my FE logo (in amongst some other 3D animation by yours truly) in the trailer for my first fanedit here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhB9bR4IEGI (ignore the release date — I decided to shoot a whole extra scene for it, but that’s now done and in the process of editing and adding FX to.)
I’ve created an animated intro logo for use in fan edits. You can watch it here.
There are three variants, all available at this link. Please use this version rather than ripping from YouTube, as YouTube’s compression is awful and the original file is far superior in quality.
- “Extended” is the full-quality version of the logo posted on YouTube.
- “Standard” is the 15-second version: effectively the last part of the full version, but transitioning in from a plain star field rather than the Death Star.
- “Variant” is identical to “Standard” except that it transitions in from black rather than stars, and I’ve omitted the low bass rumble from the soundtrack.
- Use “Alpha” as a matte to key “Variant” in over a preceding shot — I have it transition from the FE•org logo this way.
I’ve also included a still PNG.
You don’t have to credit me at all if you use it, but if you’d like to, please credit St. Kilda Design (my art and design brand) rather than Roccondil Rínon.
ORIGINAL POST BELOW
I’m nearing completion on my first fanedit, and I’ve been maintaining a forum thread both here and on FE•org. I know FE has a number of animated “vanity plate” logos that people have made and use for their edits, and while I won’t be using any of theirs I’ve made my own (I had a specific concept in mind, which can then be modified to fit the theme of each movie). However, I haven’t seen any fanedits which use an animated OT•com logo, and I was wondering whether that was because there was a policy against this. If there is, I’m perfectly content to abide by it; on the other hand, if not, I’m very happy to make my animated variant available for all to use on their edits if they wish. (I’ve done a 2D animated mock-up, but the final 3D version will be a bit different, if I get the go-ahead.)
Here’s a rough test render from the stinger.
Bit of news: the edit may be delayed, because it looks like I’ve found someone who’s keen and able to do the stinger gag after all. We’ll see how we go with recording and assembling it, but I (obviously) won’t rush things for the sake of meeting the Easter date.
A few other notes, just while I think of it:
- I’m restoring the original music cues to the cartoon (they were replaced with tracks from the movie itself on the DVD release).
- I’ll do a raw video release first, followed by a Blu Ray with extras. Said extras will include, at a minimum, subtitles, a trivia track, an alternative “clean” dialogue track, the Honest Trailer, and an updated teaser for The Hobbit. I’m considering including the original “all for nothing ending” as an alternative option, if anyone wants it. Depending on timing, the Blu Ray may also include a first look at my upcoming Matrix edit.
I’m not using the full version of “Black Sheep”, because there just isn’t enough footage. I’ve cut a few bits here and there from the original film (mainly to tighten a reaction shot or make room for the new material, although a couple of lines and shots are gone). Far as I can remember, not having it in front of me right now, all the other deleted scenes (including the alternative “afterlife”) have been used at least in part.
I have contacted another actor friend about doing the “serial killer” stinger after all, which may push the release date out a smidge, but hopefully not. He’s French-Californian rather than Canadian, but I’d be surprised if he can’t do the accent. Nothing confirmed at this stage, but fingers crossed.
About 130 mins, including the cartoon at the beginning. I kept the theatrical ending, so the alternative ending isn’t in the edit. It’s not a complete kitchen-sink cut.
Trailer is here!
Okay, so barring any unforeseens, this’ll go out at Easter. That gives me plenty of wiggle room to polish off the last few rough edges. Meanwhile, I’m putting together a trailer that should be ready to go up in a few days.
Sorry for not posting any updates along the way with this! It’s 99% done. Most of the edits mentioned above have now been done, and the colour grading and matching is complete. Only the Lee’s Palace scene is still unfinished, and I think I’ll probably just have to restore something approaching the theatrical version; there just isn’t enough footage available anywhere I could find to include the whole song.
I still like the idea of the “serial killer” post-credits ending, but I’ve lost contact with the guy I had in mind for it. If anyone’s interested and can do a Canadian newsreader impression, I have a script ready to go, but I’m not going to hold up the edit any longer for the sake of a stinger gag. The “Summertime” music video will take its place.
I’ll be tinkering with Lee’s Palace over the next week or so, and after that it’ll just be a matter of putting together the titles and a Blu-Ray ISO.
I may consider doing a shorter “no-frills” version without most of the narration and roadshow trappings, once the main project is done. In some cases it would be relatively trivial to do. On the other hand, I’m not just throwing the narration in for the sake of it; each use of it (there are five or six total) serves a purpose.
At this stage, I’m using narration:
- in the prologue,
- at Rivendell,
- on leaving Lake-town,
- for the battle flashback, and
- for the epilogue.
The first and last serve to bookend the film and create scenes from whole cloth. I can’t see them working without the narration.
The second and third are used to reinforce the montage style of the sequences in question, and suggest the passage of time. I find that the Rivendell sequence in particular feels far too rushed without the White Council scenes, whereas it should be one of the slower parts of the film; using some quick dissolves and narration, I’m able to make it feel like a longer stay without actually lengthening the sequence. It also allows me to give Elrond an introduction that doesn’t depend on either (a) the viewer having previously known him or (b) the nonsense with Radagast and Azog.
The battle flashback (to clarify, not all of the battle will be shown this way, just the parts after Bilbo is stunned) uses it in a similar way, to give some narrative distance and set it apart as a flashback, and similarly doesn’t really work without it.
I may add some in one or two more places — I still haven’t decided on how best to bridge films one and two, even whether to cut the Eagles entirely, and a narrated montage might be one option, although I don’t want to have too many of them. I’m not wedded to keeping the Lake-town one; but one reason for it, to be honest, is just so that there isn’t an enormous gap between bits of narration, and the next one isn’t jarring.
Here’s the scene!
I’ve taken excepts from Clamavi de Profundis’ 20-minute recording of the entire poem, of which I plan to use a few more verses in the second act of the film to accompany the Roäc scene.
It was a lot of fun but a lot of work to do the day-for-night grades, especially in shots including fire (ie. most of them). What may not be so apparent is that the entire flashback sequence has also received a subtle Technicolor-effect grade to give it an antique look, most apparent in the shots inside the mountain (although there are a couple of visual artefacts there I’m still working to remove) and the landscape shots at the end of the sequence.
The soundtrack isn’t final; while it does work as an entirely silent sequence, I intend to put together what I call a “partial” foley track, underscoring the scene but deferring to the music, for the final edit.
Mainly behind-the-scenes stuff with relatively little to show for it, I’m afraid. The last several months have been mainly teaching myself Blender so I can create the scene of Roäc carrying Thorin’s message to Dáin (among other things, including my other edits). I’ve acquired a serviceable raven model that’s detailed enough for my needs and similar enough to the one in the original film, but it’s insufficiently rigged for flight animation, so I’m going to have to do that myself.
I am finally happy enough with the day-for-night grades in the prologue flashback to share it, and the final animation for the opening titles is now rendered and locked. The soundtrack won’t be final (I need to do a little more work to cover the seams where I’ve made cuts in the music, and I want to do a partial foley track as well), but it should be up some time next week. I’ll post a link here when it is, of course.
Work should be easing up from next week, so I’ll have more time to work on editing. The main things that need doing editing-wise are the new sequences in the second act; the only major part of the first act that isn’t more or less locked down is the Rivendell sequence, though I am still trimming here and there.
A bigger question is, what would Scarif look like a few days after the battle? My guess would be, very different.
Also, not sure if Ady has answered this, but is the Imperial March being kept in the Death Star reveal, given the full march treatment of the Death Star theme in Rogue One?
Continuing to work on the animation; I’ll post a rough cut of the title sequence (probably without the titles themselves) once I have it.
Meanwhile, this week I received my CD of the operatic adaptation of The Fall of Gondolin, which just came out. There’s no particular connection to the edit, other than that both use elements of the original Tolkien text, but it’s just so gosh-darn amazing that I had to share it here. Seriously, I think it’s criminal that this isn’t the Tolkien adaptation everyone’s flipping their lid over, rather than the Amazon series.
Haven’t been doing much work on the edit itself of late; I’ve been teaching myself Blender for some of the animation I’ll need to do. Thanks for your continued interest! I intend to release an updated teaser with my Scott Pilgrim edit, for which I’m aiming for a Christmas release.
That’s totally fine by me, then I can use one 4 disc blu-ray case for the whole trilogy. And I’m sure someone will come up with the box art and disc covers to make it all look official.
Already on it.
I beg your pardon, so it was.
He did release a colour-corrected TESB early on, IIRC. I think it was in 1080p.
I agree. I know Ady liked Rogue One, so perhaps the Imperial theme from that film (ending as it does with the four-note flourish used in ANH) would suit.
I have no problem with using the Imperial march in ANH:R as such, but I agree with saving its full, bombastic statement for ESB.
I expect it would be trivial to do, although it isn’t something I’ve considered. I’m not intending to have multiple versions of this floating around, but I might consider an alternative audio track for the Blu Ray.
Yes; that shot needs either more work or replacement.
Yep, it’s linked on the first page — here it is.