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#687426
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The Hobbit (2014) - Resource and idea thread
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I'm not wedded to keeping the eagles, especially if we can segue from the mountain escape to the beginning of the second film, but my first cut needed to be a real book-purist one. I don't mind if my final cut omits things from the book, so long as it isn't any worse in that respect than the LOTR movies. (I still haven't forgiven Jackson for leaving out THE ENTIRE FUCKING ENDING.)

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#687359
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The Hobbit (2014) - Resource and idea thread
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I've been having a go at this over the last couple of days. My rough cut of the first film comes in at 103 minutes (without credits). That's mostly been chopping whole scenes, although a number of times I've had to make fiddlier snips. That's just a first pass, though; I've been as generous as I can, with a view to cutting more later. I'll watch it through to see how the pacing goes, and try to shave off another half hour or so if I can.

Changes so far (that I can remember):

  • Prologue completely gone (might use prologue from part 2 as a prologue; we need something to precede "good morning")
  • Unexpected Party trimmed
  • Troll scene trimmed for childishness
  • Radagast severely trimmed (He shows up, quick flashback to Dol Guldur, then he dashes off; the extended chase scene is cut)
  • No flashbacks to battle with Azog
  • Rivendell trimmed; no White Council
  • Stone giants completely gone and not missed
  • Stupid CGI in Goblin-town gone; Great Goblin trimmed.
  • Gollum introduction edited because as it stands it assumes the audience knows him; I want to introduce him more gradually and make him creepier for the audience who hasn't seen LOTR. This will need more work for continuity and pacing.
  • Goblin chase almost completely gone — they start to run, it cuts back to Bilbo, next we see is the escape from the mountain. No stupid CGI.
  • Azog completely cut until the pine-tree battle, and then cut down to be just another Orc. Thorin gets left behind or thrown out of his tree — we don't see — and they only realise when not!Azog's warg attacks him.

I may cut down Thorin's mistrusting-Bilbo arc, which was quite exaggerated from the book, in which case I can cut down the last battle even more, eliminate Azog, and lose a minute or two elsewhere.

I haven't actually seen the second film yet, so I'm not sure what I'll be able to do with it, but at the very least I'll try to eliminate Legolas and Tauriel and Smaug's golden shower.

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#681783
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The Star Wars Mono-logy
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I'll be very interested to see this. Question: which version of the films will you be using as a basis? It could be very cool to stick entirely to the original versions (rather than SE or Revisited) and make the thing look like it could have been made in the '70s.

Also, a film as long as this one is going to be deserves an intermission, like an olde-stylee epic. Thoughts on where this might go?

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#591767
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ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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That idea actually has some narrative potential — if Han came out of the carbonite having lost his strength and confidence, it could do a lot for his character — so long as his arc for the rest of the movie was dealing with it, regaining what he'd lost and developing as a character that way.

The movie as it stands only does the beginnings of this. I'm not saying it has to be done, or that it even could be done, but it would be one way to try to improve the film.

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#539185
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ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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I love the lightsabre mockup. I initially thought you were avoiding showing Luke's face altogether — which could work very well, dramatically speaking, and would mean we'd be able to shoot the scene with a stand-in rather than reusing footage.

Re timdiggerm's concern: I think it's another case of where the limitations of what we do can lead to a good dramatic outcome — Luke doesn't want to believe that Vader is his father, so he's been putting off asking until it's almost too late.

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#535619
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Idea. *cue lightbulb*

I'm a linguist, and I've constructed artificial languages for stories before. If someone seriously wants to have a crack at this, I'd be happy to help out. It takes a little while to do, but it would give me an excuse to make another one. Of course, you'd have to be prepared to record everything in the new language from scratch.

Just an idea.

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#518328
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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I agree, I think it's a much better idea. So much of the plot of ROTS got changed after the film was supposed to have been shot, it's clear Lucas didn't have a detailed idea of what he wanted to happen from the get-go.

Of course, this might mean a gap of several years between ROTJ:R and TPM:R, but hands up anyone inclined to whine about this?

Didn't think so.

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#503862
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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So sorry for your loss, Ady.

Also, sorry for not expressing my sympathy for your family's troubles earlier. I thought I had but the forum seems to have eaten it. I feel awful that my only comment of late was telling someone off.

I guess I don't have any idea what I can really say, though. I don't know how you feel. I don't really know you. To lose your father and future grandchild in the same week is not something anyone should have to go through.

Sympathy from all of us in Melbourne.