Possessed

Ah, they look a little soft and noisy, but they could be filtered to be well enough to replace short missing shots without too much trouble.

Aren't the TB broadcasts supposed to have like really good quality anyway? Maybe this would be even better than the official DVD. Because if this is the theatrical version then it must be a diferent transfer so it might not have the color problems in the first place or the Edge Enhancement. Or artificial grain.

ChainsawAsh said:

Alright, I've hit a bit of a roadblock.

The scene with the stormtroopers and dewbacks searching the desert ... well ... I hate it.  I've always hated the added SE shots of the scene, so I'm trying to cut them out.  I don't mind the added dewback in the shot that was always there since 1977, but I hate the two new shots.

The problem is, the shot that's been there since 1977 is shortened a lot in the SE.  So I'm stuck with either using at least one of the new SE shots, or (gasp!) switching to GOUT video for that shot.  And as many here know, that shot is one of the worst on the GOUT (four-eyed stormptrooper, anyone?) ... so I really don't want to do that.

If anyone has any suggestions regarding this shot, that would be great :-)

Maybe you could use the gout, color match it to the AVCHD shot or Revisited whatever you are using, Then have the R/AVCHD shot blend into the Gout shot when the gout is the only source available for the frames.

Make that single shot into a clip in a timeline (I don't know how to use the software you are using, so sorry if this isn't possible) from both sources and line them up on the timeline so that the end matches. Use the GOUT just for the beginning of the shot where that's all there is and then have it slowly blend into the higher quality shot. If done well it would be better than just using the GOUT and the increase in quality would be slow so it wouldn't be so jarring.

dark_jedi said:

I was just digging through all my old Star Wars DVD's I have collected over the years and I stumbled upon the TB EP 1 Theatrical Release DVD,it is 16:9 PAL with DD2.0 audio.

Would you consider sharing? The TB EP1 would be an invaluable source I'm sure, much better than laserdisc.

 Could you make a torrent of it? That seems to be fairly easy. And you could just keep it seeded long enough for him to download it. (PS... if you do this, or anything really I'd be interested in obtaining it as well)

You are "welcome", if you know what I mean.

Which would be quite odd if you didn't, because it's really quite simple. 

You have a pm.

ChainsawAsh said:

I'd think the laserdisc would be the best option.  I can deal with a few shots being lower-quality than the others (I'll have to for my "Trilogy" edit series, anyway).

Yes but in order to tackle this editing challenge he'll need to fix his blasted remote control! DAMN!!!

Also this particular laserdisc was supposed to have near-DVD quality anyway.

Janskeet said:

Why must you guys reply to all my spelling errors before I get a chance to fix them?

No no no, you spelled all the words right.

I wasn't making fun of you, I just foudn that to be actually funny.

Janskeet said:

xhonzi said:

Davnes007 said:

It's a free alternative to DivX.

 

 Don't feed the troll.

LOL

Adywan, why would you give Vader's voice a one second frame delay?

 Holy shit and you guys thought that NTSC jitters were bad!!!

Also Ady you may find this page of use: http://movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=563

Also what are you going to use to restore the shots that were omitted for the DVD release?

adywan said:

Possessed said:

And now that I'm done kissing ass, what's the latest on the theatrical DVD? :)

 

I'm struggling transferring my NTSC laserdisc of TPM. I need this only as a guide layer so i can match up the HD edit with the theatrical version but my bloody DVD recorder remote is being an ass and i can't access the settings menu to change the input from PAL to NTSC. I even tried copying my PAL VHS and the damn macrovision prevents me from doing this. I know someone did a laserdisc transfer of TPM a long time back but i can't find a copy anywhere

 

Have you searched the internet for a firmware for your DVD recorder? Some players have had hacked firmware which bypasses macrovision. I've used them before, and never had a problem. 

YOu find the firmware file on the net (type your model number and then "firmware"), burn the file to a CD and let it work. 

Come to think of it... I have a NTSC VHS copy of TPM. I'll see if I can rip it... and send it to you. If I do though, I'm going to have to HIGHLY compress it. I don't have the patience to wait for a huge file to upload. You can use it as a reference however, but not for restoring missing shots.

adywan said:

i wonder who wookiegroomer is pointing this at:

from the nfo for his ROTJ blu-ray

To re-edit, mix and adjust video/audio, re-encoding is required. When this happens if you re-encode at anything like or less than the original bitrate you lose quality. Since my releases are meant to be enjoyed by the big boys with REAL home theater systems I encode at the highest possible bitrate to guarantee the best quality- without question. It would be embarrassing to share all this work and then shit on it by encoding it to a DVD9.

 

As i am the only person to have done any work like colour correction on the saga for AVCHD releases i take it that its pointed towards me.  Whats with all the sudden hostility?

Well he seems to be hostile to everyone.

I would think it would be just as embarassing to uselessly enflate a 16 GB transfer to a 50 GB file when a nice 17 GB would have done fine. And considering his color correction on his broadcasts are... iffy. Where as yours kick ass. I took your color corrected Empire AVCHD and made it into a DVD (I have no blu ray or hi def equipment) and it looks great. I even took the dvd to a friends and upscaled it back to 1080 P on his big screen and it STILL looked great.

And now that I'm done kissing ass, what's the latest on the theatrical DVD? :)

ChainsawAsh said:

Possessed said:

Damn marijuana... 

I've made my fair share of mistakes on this forum for that very reason.  No worries.  :-)

Indeed... it's the solution for everything!

ChainsawAsh said:

Yeah, but this isn't a fanedit, it's a custom DVD, which is why we can't say.

Woah holy shit. Sorry, I completely misread what vbangle said. I thought he said that because it's a custom DVD he WILL allow him to say.

Damn marijuana... 

vbangle said:

Possessed said:

dark_jedi said:

OK here is an update on the DVD's of all 3 films,they are done,I am frackin with them NO more,here are the specs for the 3:

Star Wars - 16:9 anamorphic video,English subtitles(from GOUT),93 LD audio DD 2.0 @ 384 (track 1),93 LD audio DD 5.1 upmix @ 448 (track 2),77 mono Mix Dolby 1.0 @ 96 (track 3)

Empire Strikes Back - 16:9 anamorphic video,English subtitles(from GOUT),93 LD audio DD 2.0 @ 384 (track 1),93 LD audio DD 5.1 upmix @ 448 (track 2)

Return Of The Jedi - 16:9 anamorphic video,English subtitles(from GOUT),93 LD audio DD 2.0 @ 384 (track 1),93 LD audio DD 5.1 upmix @ 448 (track 2)

*access the audio options and subtitles from the button on your DVD player remote.

Here is what they weigh in at:

Star Wars 6.43 GB's
Empire Strikes Back 6.57 GB's
Return Of The Jedi 6.90 GB's

and all were CCE SP 6 pass encoded at an avg of 6500.

anything else you want to know,just ask away.

Now if I only had Verbatim DL DVDr's to burn test them before I do anything else with them.

 

 

Sounds great. When would you say they will be released, and how?

Because its a custom DVD and not a fan edit I don't think Moth3r will allow DJ to say in open forum....but my guess would be the "usual places".

 

Ahh. Well that's a rule loosely followed anyway isn't it? I mean there's threads for fanedits here that say the edit is on Demonoid plain as day.

dark_jedi said:

OK here is an update on the DVD's of all 3 films,they are done,I am frackin with them NO more,here are the specs for the 3:

Star Wars - 16:9 anamorphic video,English subtitles(from GOUT),93 LD audio DD 2.0 @ 384 (track 1),93 LD audio DD 5.1 upmix @ 448 (track 2),77 mono Mix Dolby 1.0 @ 96 (track 3)

Empire Strikes Back - 16:9 anamorphic video,English subtitles(from GOUT),93 LD audio DD 2.0 @ 384 (track 1),93 LD audio DD 5.1 upmix @ 448 (track 2)

Return Of The Jedi - 16:9 anamorphic video,English subtitles(from GOUT),93 LD audio DD 2.0 @ 384 (track 1),93 LD audio DD 5.1 upmix @ 448 (track 2)

*access the audio options and subtitles from the button on your DVD player remote.

Here is what they weigh in at:

Star Wars 6.43 GB's
Empire Strikes Back 6.57 GB's
Return Of The Jedi 6.90 GB's

and all were CCE SP 6 pass encoded at an avg of 6500.

anything else you want to know,just ask away.

Now if I only had Verbatim DL DVDr's to burn test them before I do anything else with them.

 

Sounds great. When would you say they will be released, and how?

Wasn't there a TB broadcast of the theatrical version as well?

Jonno said:

Ah, that clears that up then - cheers Moth3r.

Though it would be a good idea to put both the original DPL and the 5.1 upmix (as per the other thread) on the same disc to do an easy A/B comparison. The only snag is the combined bitrate - there probably won't be room for high quality video AND high quality stereo AND 5.1.

I wouldn't think that would be necessary. You will probably get a better result from hardware doing the DPL decoding than you will having software doing it, and in the process compressing it. 

hairy_hen said:

I posted these in my thread, but I thought I'd put them here too, in case anyone was interested.  These are the '93 laserdisc tracks, but with a few minor alterations.  In Star Wars, the cell bay shootout has been replaced with the equivalent section from the '77 stereo mix, to remove those annoying smashing glass sounds, and part of the 'deceleration' sound from the mono mix has been added as a rear-channel effect when the Falcon emerges from hyperspace.  In Jedi, the deleted music from Luke and Ben's conversation on Dagobah has been re-inserted.  No changes to Empire.  Multiple RARs due to file size, which will combine into FLACs.

 

Star Wars:

part 1: http://www.sendspace.com/file/itfina

part 2: http://www.sendspace.com/file/gnbf1j

part 3: http://www.sendspace.com/file/9jtnuo

part 4: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ya3hxb

part 5: http://www.sendspace.com/file/rvfgb8

part 6: http://www.sendspace.com/file/31hskl

Empire:

part 1: http://www.sendspace.com/file/7r82og

part 2: http://www.sendspace.com/file/8wfiyr

part 3: http://www.sendspace.com/file/pt4l44

part 4: http://www.sendspace.com/file/n2kgq4

part 5: http://www.sendspace.com/file/rxjzqe

part 6: http://www.sendspace.com/file/x78fin

part 7: http://www.sendspace.com/file/g6c5bk

Jedi:

part 1: http://www.sendspace.com/file/tiv49t

part 2: http://www.sendspace.com/file/8r4atz

part 3: http://www.sendspace.com/file/bprgwj

part 4: http://www.sendspace.com/file/qt356m

part 5: http://www.sendspace.com/file/akul85

part 6: http://www.sendspace.com/file/dw0ab0

part 7: http://www.sendspace.com/file/khatw9

 

I mean this in the most manly way possible.

I. Love. You. 

Ripplin said:

Possessed said:

 An update which is in fact not an update at all, but a sad story.

I somehow accidently overwrote my project file and everything I did so far was lost.

Ouch! Sorry to hear it! Hope you haven't lost any hair, or had too much turn white over that. :p

I must say that when I've had similar setbacks, I always do WAY better the next time. I find I work much faster because I have a better way of doing it and I also remember to add many things I forgot the first time. (I'm thinking specifically of a huge dream journal I wrote, lost, then started again from scratch...) Hopefully your re-do will turn out that way too.

 

 

 Thanks! I'm hoping so too. I do generally have a better idea of what I'm doing now. All the same, I'm still starting with the color adjusting work since I'm not really in the mood to re edit the beginning again. I'll post screenshots sometime.

 An update which is in fact not an update at all, but a sad story.

I somehow accidently overwrote my project file and everything I did so far was lost.

So I have to start over. This time I'm going to start with color-adjusting first and possibly release that alone before I do my edit. I'm using a 720P HD broadcast as a source, since the quality of the DVD isn't that great. The broadcast still has Edge Enhancement and grain, but it doesn't have the poor compression artifacts of the DVD and has greater detail. (Talking about Phantom Menace here) 

JediMasterFisher said:

Possessed said:

Just an update, even though nobody seems to really care.

I've decided against adding original trilogy music to the prequel trilogy. Maybe in a few spots, but overall no for 2 reasons:

1. The scores of the original trilogy, other than the main theme, didn't really have any relationship with each other so why should the PT?

and

2. There aren't really two many places it would fit. The prequel trilogy has a different story to tell than the OT, and it's a much more tragedic story, and the music should be mostly different. 

One thing I'd do with the music in the PT is try to edit it back to the way John Williams wrote and recorded it. Mainly in the end battle.

 

Hmm... I'll look into doing that. I was originally going to do this alot, because musically it sounds better the way Williams wrote it, but as far as it fit into the flow of the movie sometimes it works best the way it is. I might take a look at the end battle.

Also just some info on progress. I didn't actually get around to start editing until yesterday (previously I was just doing music tests and such) and am almost midway through it. I've cut a TON of stuff out, things unnecessary to the story. Captain Obvious's only line I've left in so far is the one about the hyperdrive leaking blah blah because otherwise you don't know why they are going to Tattoine. I'd estimate the final running time to be around an hour and a half to an hour and 45 minutes.

Just an update, even though nobody seems to really care.

I've decided against adding original trilogy music to the prequel trilogy. Maybe in a few spots, but overall no for 2 reasons:

1. The scores of the original trilogy, other than the main theme, didn't really have any relationship with each other so why should the PT?

and

2. There aren't really two many places it would fit. The prequel trilogy has a different story to tell than the OT, and it's a much more tragedic story, and the music should be mostly different. 

EyeShotFirst said:

sorry to be a little mean but. You say this a week after adywan already said it. He is doing exactly what you are doing.

No he isn't are you kidding me!? Ady is planning to change the story around. He's giving it an overhaul. Not even close to the same thing.