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#1548674
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Here is the first draft of the scene in Palpatine’s office.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Eb92YuM5Mmi3A8MzWcpHVLtWBBcQPOzq/view?usp=share_link

I changed the dialogue so that now Anakin visits Palpatine under the pretense to ask for advice to convince Padmé to leave Coruscant, but Palpatine catches on to his intent and demands to know Anakin’s real reason to seek him out. This leads to Anakin confessing his worries for his mother in Palpatine, who assures him to look after her in his stead and adds a dismissive remark to the Jedi’s teaching methods.

Apart from a few audio bits of sub-par quality, the biggest issue left is the lip sync on some of Palpatine’s new lines. I am not sure what I can do about that, but before I attempt anything I would like to hear your opinion on the new dialogue and welcome any suggestions to improve the wording.

Unrelated to the dialogue, I noticed an editing mistake during the pan from Palpatine’s window. For a few frames, the floor of his office is disconnected from the little stairs leading up to his desk. Has anyone ever attempted to fix that?

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#1547027
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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TiiN said:

Hi all, I can remember that someone worked on adding a hologram of Count Dooku to the deleted senate scene of episode 2 (and speaking to the senate). I thought this was in this thread but I can’t find it anymore. Maybe someone can help me?

I think I took it down because it turned out too convoluted and incomprehensive. However, if you are still interested, I could upload it again.

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#1543126
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How would you restructure Anakin's turn to the dark side in the Prequels?
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Darth Tremor said:

Though I still like the idea of Palpatine using lightning on Vader to make him submit to the dark side, it would add gravitas to Vader’s line, “you don’t know the power of the dark side! I must obey my master.” You would then understand Vader to basically be saying, “I obey or die,” that he lives under tyranny.

However that is something that could be achieved, or at least hinted at, through fan editing. There is a moment after Anakin’s turn, before Palpatine tells him to rise, where we cut away to Yoda feeling the catastrophe through the force. One could add Palatine raising his hands and shooting Anakin with lightning just before the cut, continuing the sound effect through Yoda’s moment, add an evil laugh for the atmosphere and return to palatines office, where Anakin thanks his new master. This would retexture the function of force lightning, not just as a weapon but as a tool for control and dominion, essentially like a burn sign. It would show how Anakin is broken after his betrayal. He is paralyzed by his dependence on Palpatine, induced by his fear of loss. Furthermore he might very well want the punishment as a mean to numb his conscience, after all he just unleashed the ultimate horror on the galaxy.

I think something like that could serve the function of reinforcing Vader’s line in episode six, unless I misread your meaning here.

On an unrelated note. It just occurred to me, that Anakin’s redemption, which is essentially tied to the birth of the twins is ultimately dependent on Obi-Wan winning their duel on Mustafar.
That does not fit with an redemption arc, because it is no conscious decision to do good, which would signify hope for him. Instead it is his overconfidence to get the jump on his former master, which allows Obi-Wan, the droids, Padmé and by extension the twins to escape.

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#1543095
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How would you restructure Anakin's turn to the dark side in the Prequels?
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Darth Tremor said:

I would have him fall trying to prevent the take over of the Sith, that he is not Palpatine pal, but is seduced when Sheev kills Jedi Masters in front of him and damages Anakin with Force Lightning; that its the burns from The Emperor’s bolts that makes Anakin have to don the mask and black mantels. That would make it poetic in ROTJ that he dies being hit by bolts again.

I like the link to episode 6, although I wouldn’t try to recreate the exact scene.

Instead I would change the platform scene before the duel on Mustafar. In this version Anakin doesn’t choke Padmé after Obi-Wan’s reveal, but attacks him with force lightning, Obi-Wan defend himself with his lightsaber, but the rebound attack hits Padmé. Anakin is devastated, he is now at his lowest point, he wants revenge, Obi-Wan must die. But first Padmé needs medical help, however neither Obi-Wan nor Anakin can leave, so Anakin lets go of Padmé and allows 3PO to fly her out, thus opening the door to his redemption. On board the ship Padmé hands 3PO the coordinates to Bail’s asteroid base. They leave the system and the duel begins.

What do you think?

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#1540981
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Community Focus Thread 2: Return of the Jedi
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Yesterday all of us at home sat down and gave ROTJ another rewatch, due to the anniversary and I had an idea. I think the emperors arrival should be postponed until after the rebel meeting and Yoda’s twilight, in both scenes the Emperor is mentioned and his power and significance to the Rebel attack are underlined. It is the perfect build up to his introduction.

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#1536591
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Making the Obi-Wan & Anakin training session (From the Kenobi series) work in an AOTC edit.
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

The music cues are absolutely brilliant. Nicely done.

What exactly is wrong with “Your need for victory, Anakin, it blinds you”? I took it to mean that a fight still isn’t over even though an opponent is disarmed. Seems like a valuable lesson for a Padawan, but it could be interpreted in a way that he is being too harsh on him and “holding him back”.

The way I understand it, the end of the fight will remain clunky like that unless it’s reinstated.

The problem is that Obi-Wan ends their match by doing precisely that, disarming his opponent.

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#1536428
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Making the Obi-Wan & Anakin training session (From the Kenobi series) work in an AOTC edit.
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Good point Octorox and I have to agree with you Jar Jar Bricks that it could add much needed substance to Anakin’s frustration in the context of an extended edition of the theatrical movie.

On the other hand I think that their antagonism towards each other bears the movie down and should be cut or greatly reduced, because it makes both character unlikeable. I mean it is hard to think that these two are friends, let alone brothers, and this scene does the opposite of reinforcing that belief.

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#1527742
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I wonder if we could add a line to AOTC that indicates that Anakin was staying in contact with Shmi through Palpatine, possibly without the knowledge of the Jedi. It would explain Anakin’s strong friendship with Palpatine and Anakin would already harbor a secret from the Jedi, long before his relationship with Padmé.

Thankfully we can dub Palpatine during their scene in AOTC without paying attention to lip-sync due to the lighting of the scene. However I struggle to splice together a conversation that works.

Maybe with an AI voice or a talented voice actor something similar to this could work:

Palpy: “…and so they have finally given you an assignment. Your mother would be proud.”
Anakin: “Have you spoken to her lately?”
Palpy: “Last I heard of her was two months ago, she told me Owen proposed to Beru, they are getting wed next year. Oh and your droid is continuing to scold about the jundland winds, hehe, she wanted me to ask you how to deactivate his vocal unit … It really is a shame that the Jedi won’t let you talk to her.”

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#1527594
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Worst Edit Ideas
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Eyepainter said:

Peter Pan said:

Give Jar Jar agency, like this:

“Naboo has no Queen, Naboo needs no Queen”, the line of the Queen is broken, instead elected monarchs rule the planet. The last of the royal bloodline roams the swamplands of Naboo. To the local residents he is known as Strider, but to the people of Minas Theed his name is Jar Jar, son of Jam Jar. He is found by Qui-Gon the Grey, after the invasion of the ring-ships. They seek help from the Gungan, who retreated to Gunga Deep, intending to persevere the attack of Dooku the white, ringmaker (yes, he would replace the Viceroy). After they made their way to Minas Theed the parody falls flat, so they destroy the ring (-ship), Jar Jar is crowned and Qui-Gon the Grey returns to Coruscant.

Don’t forget Anakin Baggins. Without him, Jar Jar would not have gone very far.

Now that you mention it, Sting glows blue… And loses his finger (amongst a number of other body parts) and he throws something evil down a deep chasm.

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#1527550
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Worst Edit Ideas
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Give Jar Jar agency, like this:

“Naboo has no Queen, Naboo needs no Queen”, the line of the Queen is broken, instead elected monarchs rule the planet. The last of the royal bloodline roams the swamplands of Naboo. To the local residents he is known as Strider, but to the people of Minas Theed his name is Jar Jar, son of Jam Jar. He is found by Qui-Gon the Grey, after the invasion of the ring-ships. They seek help from the Gungan, who retreated to Gunga Deep, intending to persevere the attack of Dooku the white, ringmaker (yes, he would replace the Viceroy). After they made their way to Minas Theed the parody falls flat, so they destroy the ring (-ship), Jar Jar is crowned and Qui-Gon the Grey returns to Coruscant.