Peter Pan

DrDre said:

Mocata said:

This movie was hilariously dumb. A huge rickety mess that I laughed out loud during. I kinda liked it. But it’s not good.

My feelings exactly, intellectually I think it’s a pretty bad movie, but it still was very entertaining. Just shut down your brain, and you will have a terrific time.

At its core it was a two and a half hour rollercoaster, both in terms of enjoyment and the pacing.

DrDre said:

Creox said:

Peter Pan said:

Creox said:

act on instinct said:

But at what cost!?

As one who loved TLJ and the risks it took, I would say the cost was caving into fan service over originality. I really liked a lot about TROS but an extension of what Rian started would have been a lot better imo.

Just rewatched TLJ and have to agree, it is pure magic and imo easily the greatest Star Wars.

That’s saying something…seriously. I rank TLJ number three (or four depending on what day you ask)

I rank it at the bottom. For me it fundamentally clashes with the story and characters Lucas envisioned. I really don’t like the meta approach to Star Wars, even if I don’t think it is a bad film when viewed in isolation.

I can agree that TLJ greatest assets don’t have much to do with the rest of Star Wars.
Nonetheless I love it, with every viewing it keeps unfolding new ideas like no other SW does to me.

Creox said:

act on instinct said:

But at what cost!?

As one who loved TLJ and the risks it took, I would say the cost was caving into fan service over originality. I really liked a lot about TROS but an extension of what Rian started would have been a lot better imo.

Just rewatched TLJ and have to agree, it is pure magic and imo easily the greatest Star Wars.

What shall I say? I utterly enjoyed this movie and couldn’t stop smiling.
But the story had some flaws that really annoy me. First of all I was disappointed that they ignored TLJ almost completely. The is seemingly no hope in the galaxy, although reestablishing hope was one of the main themes from TLJ. Poe is still struggling to be a leader. Rey is still obsessed with the past. The portrayal of the Jedi has shifted back to the picture we got from the prequels and Rose got sidelined for Jannah, who serves basically no purpose, although her character could have been a set up for a big stormtrooper mutiny, which would have suited Fin’s character well.
But these are merely details, what really bugged me the most was their reluctance to move beyond the almost tiring good vs. evil showdown. Luke’s sacrifice from TLJ had left me with hope that the Jedi may finally become true peacekeepers and actual pacifist and Rey had the opportunity to do so. It may sound cheesy, in fact it is a horrible idealistic approach, plaese don’t crucify me 😃

Instead of fighting the guards, when Palpatine wanted her to kill and replace him, she should have embraced him, her literal evil grandpa. Think about it, the dark side feeds of hate, how is fighting fire with fire supposed to help anything? Acknowledging the evil, disempowering it by recognition and locking the pitiable, hateful creature up in a forgotten temple in a system, literally no-one knew it existed, would have been a far more powerful climax then the one we got.

This would have been the actual Jedi way. Instead of killing the dark side, she should have healed it. (remember she has already healed two monsters in the very same movie)

I‘d be very grateful, if somebody could share these with me.
Thanks in advance.

Hal 9000 said:

I’m just hoping C-3PO’s little accident with a battle droid’s body from AOTC doesn’t become a plot point in this movie.

Could… could you imagine the unique frustration I would feel taking that in on opening day?

Please no, I‘d be quite beside myself. Symbolism and imagery are fun, but this slapstick or Wicket’s/JarJar‘s antics were terribly out of place.

In my opinion the most exciting part of the trailer were, I am not kidding, 3POs red eyes.
I am sure, that 3PO symbolises Anakin/Ben. The red eyes must have a symbolic meaning.

A Godfather like thriller about the Hutts and their mafia syndicate.

THAT would be an offer, I couldn’t refuse.

RogueLeader said:

A crone-like villain would’ve been a fun idea, since we have yet to have a female villain in the films outside of Zam Wessell, who has only a few minutes of screen time.

You forgot Phasma and Qi’ra

What do you think about moving the Jamillia-scene and maybe the Leaving-Coruscant-scene with Padme and her handmaiden to the beginning of AOTC to point out the politics and the thread of an assassination attempt on Padme, if she’ll return to the senate.

This could add some tension to the Landingplattform-scene (Have these scenes actual names?) itself.

Has somebody a copy of this? I would really much enjoy checking them out.

Although it doesn’t really belong in this thread, does somebody know were I could find the deleted Padme scenes from ROTS in good/better quality. Thanks in advance.

I would say they need a bit more purple and less gamma, but I’m as unreliable as a critic of such matters as George is as a narrator 😉

Hmmm, I guess his journey is full circle too, right…

I don’t think this shmi-theory will be in IX. It doesn’t bring Anakin’s arc full circle. Only by wandering down the reylo road Anakin(Ben)'s story can be complete. There have already been enough evidence for this (similar concept arts, themes, shots) to say that the theory is pretty much a safe bet.

I’m more interested in how they will reveal that Ben is Anakin and Rey is Padme (if this is indeed the case) and how the fandom will react.

Nice work snooker, I like the idea, but in my opinion the images are too sharp.

paja said:

Peter Pan said:

Do you have an idea on how to integrate it in a fan edit?

At the moment, not really.

It could be Darth Jar Jar‘s palace in Otoh Gunga (mesa boom bad Sith)

Do we know on which planet the Deathstar wreck will be in TROS?
Maybe it could have been this city?

This feels like it is straight out of Blade-Runner 😉

Do you have an idea on how to integrate it in a fan edit?

IlFanEditore said:

Here it is.
Again, I really need suggestions on how to improve it.
https://vimeo.com/342544011
password: fanedit

Yoda uses Force Projection to fight Palpatine. The reason is that while Yoda is on the asteroid meditating, he’s witnessing everything that’s happening, and he hears Palpatine in his office saying: “Tell the captain to ready my shuttle. I sense Lord Vader is in danger”.
Yoda knows that Kenobi is going to fight Anakin, and if Palpy goes to help Anakin, Obi Wan is doomed. So he uses the projection to stall the Emperor, just like Luke in EpVIII.

*Color Correction (not finished).
Volume still needs work.
Less cringe from Anakin.
Shortened duel. I removed the way-too-fast parts, at least wherever I could.
I tried to remove the parts where Yoda and Palpy’s lightsabers keep their contacts.
Final music, which I think is kind of ok, but tell me what you think.
Yoda’s voicover from previous movies or previous moments from this movie.*

I liked that you cut most of the dialogue from the Anakin vs. Obi fight, it worked extraordinary well in combination with the music and voiceover.

Apart from that I think you should cut the Yoda‘s fingernails losing grip part, it is just to much physical interaction for a projection.

P.S.: I would try to remove the ray shields that protected the mustafar station and explain the massiv volcanic eruptions because of Anakins rage, this would be more fate of the universe like and Anakin would appear much more like an all powerful Chosen One. It would also suit him talking about his new powers, overestimating them and eventually leading to his downfall.

This radical take on AOTC sounds interesting, especially this Geonosis intro.
But could you please tell me how you will work around the sequence of Padme and Ani trying to save Obi and explain why they went to Geonosis again. I might have missed it while reading the thread.

Anyways it may be worth a try to move the whole Geonosis part to the beginning (maybe recolor them, btw your recolor looked nice) and just keep the Dooku fight (it could take place in Dooku’s evil tower, a mashup of Vaders Castle and the Orthanc 😉) and let the movie end with the creation of the Grand Army of the Republic and a declaration of war).
I am not completely sure how this could work (just an idea yet), but it would darken the tone a lot and fit the mood of the Anakin’s downfall. On the other hand the final movie may be rather short.

Wow, NeverarGreat really impressive how you used Star Wars symmetries to link the two timelines. On paper it looks epic, especially because it underlines these similarities (it rhymes!), I’m curious on how it would work in motion.

I just watched it and have to admit that I thought the first paragraph was a little boring. The rest was fine.

For the first paragraph, I would suggest something like:

“The Republic is under
attack. The never-ending
CLONE WARS are raging.
Chaos rose from the soil
of War. The Force is
imbalanced.”

Just a little bit more epic and less descriptive and informative to start it all off 😉

And maybe you could remove the “desperate” from the last paragraph to imply that the Separatist are not at the edge of losing the war to give the first part of the movie a more menacing tone and tension, making Anakins turn a bit more reasonable.

Sounds exciting, your idea of altering Grievous line from the hologram-scene, so that he says that Anakin died, inspired me to cut my own version of ROTS.

Good luck, I am curious on your edit.

Hey SWOTFAN25, I thought about your idea of building the plot around Luke and using him to connect the eras.

Maybe you could start the movie with Padme telling Anakin that she is pregnant (and maybe add a Fellowship of the Ring like prologue), then focus the narrative on her and cut the Mustafar fight out.
Maybe the “Seeds of the Rebellion” plot could be used here, although the turn of Anakin (from Padme’s perspective) should be focused.
After her death and the Tatooine-Sunset-Morph, which sounds amazing, the plot of ANH would continue as normal and you could add Flashbacks of the Mustafar fight to the Obi-Wan vs Vader fight from ANH.

Anakins turn from his point of view could be added in-between ESB and ROTJ to avoid the Han-in-carbonite problem (just let the rebels save him offscreen and show flashbacks to the Prequels).

Peter Pan said:

SparkySywer said:

I tried to edit the OT into a 3 in 1 movie, I consider it a failure.

For one, 3 in 1 prequel edits work because the prequels have a ton of filler, and the OT doesn’t really. There is a ton of stuff you could cut (the point of my 3 in 1 edit was to have one single Death Star, so obviously the Death Star attack in ANH could go), but not nearly as much. I couldn’t really get it shorter than 3h55, and I cheated by speeding it up from 23.976 FPS to 25 FPS.

Secondly, I felt like having the Jabba’s Palace sequence in the same movie as Han getting frozen in carbonite was… bad? It felt like backtracking, although I could also see it being like a chance to see more of the universe? In a meta way?

I don’t know. Don’t let this discourage you, rocknroll41’s idea especially seems promising. I’m just warning you it’ll definitely be hard to get to work.

I think the best way to handle Han being frozen in carbonite is to cut this subplot.

Yet I am unsure on how to do so. The best way I see is to adjust the scene of Lando visiting Han, Leia, Chewie and 3PO in their cell, so it is hinted that he may help them and then dubb the dialogue of an imperial officer telling Vader that the prisoners escaped.
On bord of the falcon Han would rest, still suffering, because he was tortured by the Empire (use the scene of him laying down on the plank bed in the cell).

The most difficult challenge would be to add Han to the escape from Cloud City sequence.
Even though he would be unable to fight, because of the torture he experienced a few minutes ago.

Sorry hit the wrong button, it’s definitely time to go and get some sleep 😉