Peter Pan

Didn’t like it. Don’t hate it either. In my opinion it’s way to long and doesn’t have anything to say really. It touches upon multiple difficult topics, sure, but it either doesn’t follow through with them or it just straight up fails them. For example, take the spice mining thing about exploitation of both the people and the land. The people are introduced as warriors fighting for their freedom from the oppressors, but we don’t know what they are fighting for. Nothing is said about their culture apart from fighting. Also we don’t see in which way they are oppressed, they are shown to be the aggressor attacking a farming ship right in the beginning. In fact the Harkonens don’t even know how many of them are on arrakis, which makes it look like they just ignored them? Hardly what I would call criticism of colonialism. If they would have been enslaved by them or imprisoned or rounded up and killed in large numbers by the Harkonnens, that would have been criticism, but we aren’t shown any of that.
Now on to the exploiting the land trope. This is much better supported by what is shown in the movie, but its just feels so artificial. This planet might be exploited for its natural resources, but we aren’t shown the scars that this endeavor caused. The Planet is a wasteland, but not BECAUSE of the spice mining, but because it was a desert to BEGIN WITH!? WHYYYYY, there is so much potential flushed down the toilet, its infuriating.

Anyways there are other things that bugged me, like the confuse political landscape and the nonsensical plot, (why take care of the astreides, via luring them to Arrakis and buffing the herkonnten, if the harkonnen, the wipe the floor with them and are the much more obvious thread to this emperor?) or the ever repeating color palate. I get that desert are beige, but please give some contrast every once in a while. For example give Pauls vision some visiual distinguishability or give the few natives that we see more colorful cloths or give the city on Arrakis some bright colors to show that it doesn’t belong to this world. Anything to break the everlasting dullness of it all.

So to round things up after a more thorough rant than intended, I am disappointed, I expected more, good night.

P.S.: Is it just me, who thought that the water animation after the astreides ship took off looked awful.

Is this still available anywhere?

is there any fixed or polished version of this deleted scene?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR0U8mCVYO0

Cadavra said:

Has anyone experimented with replacing the dated digital model of Maul’s top half falling down the shaft? A CGI replacement probably wouldn’t look more realistic, but if it was smaller like we were seeing it further down, its fakeness might be less obvious. People are doing some wild stuff with Battlefront assets these days…

If you just want his body parts to become smaller while they fall, you could try to rotoscope them out, use a digital zoom on them and put it on a clean background. That should be rather easy to do. You could use runwayml to mask out maul and use a still image for the background. (if it isn’t already a still frame in the shot where he is falling, I can’t remember that right now)

Now I’m not that sure anymore, that it’s toothpaste…

P.S.: I think your friend will have to move at least 5 times before he can even think about a promotion. And he might suffer some material loss along the way.

I feel you.

That reminded me of an unfinished project of mine, aiming to completely remake AOTC, which featured a new origin story for the clone army as well as some other drastically changes and restructures.

The idea was basically to change the kaminoans original client from the republic to the trade federation.
The story goes like this: After TPM Nute Gunray turned to Silo Dyas (possibly Dooku’s underling, hadn’t worked out his story) to acquire a clone army, because the droids have proven themself inefficient in combat.

However Obi-Wan discovers this operation during the events of AOTC and after he informs the Jedi and the senate of this army, they decide to bust the deal and payed the Kaminoans twice of whatever Gunray offered them. Venal as the Kaminoans are (luckily this is set up by Dex) they agree and the republic acquires the service of the clones.

Here is the scene of Obi-Wan informing the Jedi and the Chancellor:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17D0Qvk1UfWHYq-q72A25BVpk6WAvWXbn/view?usp=sharing

Now on to Order 66. The existence of this protocol doesn’t make sense, if the clones were never intended to fight side by side with the Jedi. To be honest I don’t have a perfect solution to explain why it exist, so sadly it’ll remain as a deus ex machina to get rid of the Jedi for the OT to happen.
Maybe Palpatine planed all this or maybe the protocol was intended to keep the Clones from revolting. Any explanation is as bad as it being a safeguard against rouge Jedi, which only Tyrannus and the Kaminoans know of.

Cadavra said:

Regarding the common complaint that nobody seems suspicious about the Republic being handed the clone army on a silver platter, has anyone experimented with beefing up the dialogue of the final Mace/Obi/Yoda scene in AOTC to suggest the Jedi do try to investigate between films, but had no choice but to accept the clones for the time being? Seems to me there are enough lines in the prequels about plots and puzzles to cobble something together. As a rough proof of concept based on nothing more than lines I remember offhand:

• MACE: Where is your apprentice?
• OBI-WAN: On his way to Naboo, escorting Senator Amidala home…Do you believe what Count Dooku said about Sidious controlling the Senate? It doesn’t feel right.
• YODA: Joined the dark side Dooku has. Lies, deceit, creating mistrust are his ways now.
• MACE: Nevertheless, I feel we should keep a closer eye on the clones.
• YODA: I agree. Dangerous and disturbing this puzzle is.
• MACE: Whoever placed that order did not have the authorization of the Jedi Council.
• YODA: Speculation is all we have. Proof we need.
• OBI-WAN: There is a massive shift in the Force; we all feel it. But I have to admit that without the clones, it would not have been a victory.
• YODA: Victory? Victory, you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the Clone War has.

Granted, you would still have the potential issue that when ROTS picks up, it’s three years later and the Jedi are still working with the clones with no follow-up about that investigation, but then again they’re obviously suspicious enough that they want Anakin to spy on Palpatine.

That’s a cool idea with a lot of potential, however you might run out of footage, as the scene isn’t that long. Maybe you should cut the line about Anakin returning to Naboo to mitigate that problem.

Make “I can’t breath” a running gag and add it to every episode just like “I have a bad feeling about this”.
In TPM Obi-Wan could say it whilst him and Qui-Gon are following Jar Jar underwater. AOTC has it already and in every following entry people are getting force choked. As this is a new force-power, adding this legendary line would go a long way to explain it.

Firstly Han should miss the Sarlacc’s tentacle, instead Luke hits it via deflecting a blaster bolt.
Then make some changes to the briefing room scene, so that Han is supposed to lead the fighter attack and Leia leads the ground forces. I have no idea how to do that yet, maybe redub General Madine.

And then we nee a scene where Han talks to Lando and tells him to lead the fighter squadron in his stead. Two scenes might work as a template, the hangar scene where Han tells Lando to take the falcon or their short conversation before the briefing begins. The only really difficulty should be the dialogue.

And while I’m at it here is another idea. Maybe have Han offer to help doing repairs to the falcon and Lando declines explaining that no repairs are necessary. Just a little notch adding to Han’s feeling of uselessness as in his absence the falcon has finally been fully repaired.

Anyways as you can see I am really just brainstorming over here.

Just a wild thought, but what if Han had more trouble integrating into the rebellion and his every day live after his time frozen in carbonite?

For example he could want to lead the fighter squadron but must realize that his eyesight isn’t good enough yet.

So we could give him insecurities about himself that he might project at his relationship with Leia. And this tension would be resolved by the “I love you”,“I know” scene. (the one by the bunker, where Leia gets shot and shoots the two troopers)

Any thoughts?

Send him a PM, worked for me.

After Rey withstands Kylos interrogation and pushes back add a quick montage of Kylo using or learning mind trick and/or other abilities.

So that it plays out just like the scene where Harry sees Snapes memories in Order of the Phoenix.

As for the footage for this montage you could use Kylo interrogating Poe. Other than that there is a cut scene from the single player campaign of Battlefront 2, I think.

Maybe change the new republic’s Capital to cristophsis? Another option might be to replace Crait with Christophsis by recoloring the red ground and crystals and maybe adding a city skyline to the horizon in one or two shots.

I am Batman

Has anyone any idea how to add some people to Naboo to make the audience care? Because in the original we don’t ever get to see any people living in Theed. Sure the viceroy and Sio Bibble mention the people and their plight at every occasion possible, but we do not see any of them.

Could I get a link to your prequel upscales, please?

I’m depressed.
I have no friends because I don’t leave the house, but ironically leaving the house and trying to make friend just makes me feel more lonely.

DominicCobb said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Remember when we’d meme about John Boyega saying there’s no right order by proposing an order with AotC four times? Well now it’s no longer the worst.

You’re right. AOTC five times would be worse.

„There’s always a bigger fish“

Add some sprinkles of TPM for the optimal viewing experience 🙌

Maybe he was told that they removed the chip when he asked what they were doing to him in the first episode?

CaptainFaraday said:

That gives me a lateral idea: I don’t know if there’s a restoration of the original Declan Mulholland Jabba scene available at good enough quality (I’ve only ever seen very patchy ones), but with some dialogue trims, it might be possible to make it seems like Declan Mulholland’s character is someone who works for Jabba.

I don’t think another of Jabba’s henchmen would work here as Han has just met Greedo and meeting another one wouldn’t add anything. But there is potential with the original scene I think.

Maybe Declan Mulholland’s character could be another crime boss to whom Han is in debt. Now Han wouldn’t just owe Jabba (which is bad enough really) but apparently the whole crime scene in Mos Eisley and to spice things up a little more Declan Mulholland’s character could also know that Han owes Jabba as well as him, which would add some nice similarities to the kanjiklub scene in TFA.

Anyway what I actually wanted to say was in regards to the Holo-Jabba idea. Maybe the Hologram could be projects by a big bulky Droid to cover most of the whole Jabba left.
Maybe a droid like this one:

Or a modified Droideka with no guns but an extra array hanging below the snout.

JEDIT: don’t know why the picture isn’t there sorry. I had a clunky R1 Astromech in mind like the one on the sandcrawler in ANH.

This is a really good idea, although a challeng to say the least as you would have to create a clean background to put the hologram on top. And you might have to cut the bit where Han moves behind Jabba or do some clever editing. (maybe there is a close up of Han talking which could bridge him walking to Jabbas left and standing to his right)

Yes I suppose, but he still needed to learn that Vader was still around. And if the news of some Sith Lord in a black suite called Darth Vader roaming the galaxy reached Obi-Wan, I am sure that he caught some whispers and stories of Inquisitors and this Vader hunting rouge Jedi too.

JEDIT: Didn’t knew Vader made the news. But either way Obi had 19 years to hear stories about Jedi being hunted down and connect the dots.

TestingOutTheTest said:

sade1212 said:

TestingOutTheTest said:

In ANH Obi-Wan described Vader as having hunted down the Jedi, so your idea conflicts with that.

Also, so… Obi-Wan’s lying to Padmé to locate Anakin?

I can’t believe I’m engaging with Testing again but… plenty of Jedi survived Order 66. In both the old EU and the current canon, there are many comics and stories of Vader finding and killing these survivors. Vader killing most of them when they were all rounded up in a temple is barely “hunting down” to begin with!

Okay, but how would Obi-Wan know about that?

The same way he learned that Anakin survived Mustafar, I suppose.