Peter Pan

T-202 said:

Peter Pan said:

Version 2.0 of the balcony scene, all jarring cuts removed by just not cutting back at all 😉

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qGjqTuUfP5uX6soZAY5sENl_BazjQFnK/view?usp=sharing

I think this works much better, also I really liked how you did the assassination attempt!

Thanks, the blaster fire is actually an old clip from snooker, I only changed the color of the blade. The original should be on this thread as well, just a ‘few’ pages back…

RogueLeader said:

Are you also making Anakin’s first saber green?

Not really no, I changed AOTC structure, the movie starts on Geonosis now. I got the idea from an age old thread on this site: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Emanswfans-Prequel-Trilogy-Ep-II-Opening-Clips-Now-Available/id/14784

So Anakin and Obi-Wan just keep the sabers they get handed in the arena. I know there are the wrong handle, but thats not bothering me that much.

jedi_bendu said:

Peter Pan said:

My train left exactly when I pressed the button to open the door…

You must have pressed the wrong button.

In which case it is a blessing that I can never become the president of the United States.
Jokes aside there was only one button, I assume the train driver just had a bad day.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AQREESZ6l0jYARV31RBgaRKPmW-Ulh7n/view?usp=sharing

I had a little idea how to keep a little bit more of the scene.

Version 2.0 of the balcony scene, all jarring cuts removed by just not cutting back at all 😉

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qGjqTuUfP5uX6soZAY5sENl_BazjQFnK/view?usp=sharing

My train left exactly when I pressed the button to open the door…

This is where the fun begins.

My attempt to implement the dialogue from the deleted scene “Anakin’s Nightmares”.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1g30FKS5UM5zWfP647kFQndvR2sMeAk9J/view?usp=sharing

I like this idea a lot, though I agree with Eddie that we might have to drop the chance cube. Which I would like to keep for the symbolism, but then again it doesn’t really count as Qui-Gon fiddling with fate, because Watto was 100% trying to scam him.

Mrebo said:

Peter Pan said:

Mrebo said:

I think it helps greatly if we know that Shmi is no longer a slave. As difficult as it is for Anakin to try to forget about her, it’s more palatable if he knows she is free. I’d have this done in TPM and she is left behind because the Jedi don’t make allowances for parents tagging along. Qui-Gon gives a disapproving look and Shmi gets it and says, “my place is here. My future is here. It is time for you to let go.”

In AOTC I’d leave it implied that Anakin went back at least once, knows the Lars and plausibly had a conversation in years past with Owen about staying. So we would cut Watto in this telling.

I think the story is stronger if Anakin simply can’t let go of his mother even when she is relatively safe. Adopting Peter Pan’s idea to make it more explicitly the Jedi’s fault helps too. Especially with all of Anakin’s ranting about Obi-Wan holding him back which feels out of left field in the movie as is.

I don’t know if it might be cut so the line, “Mind your thoughts, Anakin, they betray you. You’ve made a commitment to the Jedi order…” applies to his dreams about his mother.

Today I played around with the scene you suggested and frankenbit something together, as Eddie would say. 😉
Its not perfect, I don’t particularly like the specific wording of the line I came up with, but I think this gets the idea across.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17C_nZGiBtV2jcEP5i1e0jCEQ4uqb13gS/view?usp=sharing

Good thought having it play in the background, it does seem to be a tough section to cut visually given how they continue walking through.

Yup, I am also trying to figure out the rest of the scene, because they continue talking about politics, with no apparent reason whereas in the original they were talking about Padmé and this lead to Obi-Wan vocalizing prejudice against politicians.
Maybe I’ll expand on the Anakin is frustrated with the Jedi angle. There are some lines, that could fit, like “I know, attachment is forbidden” or “I haven’t seen her in ten years”.

In general keeping Anakin at lot more rebellious might work for the story. Almost pushing it so far that it looks like he might leave the Jedi, would be very interesting I think. Here is a brought story outline of what I have in mind:
He joins the Jedi with the intention to help people and specifically free slaves, then ten years later he hasn’t really gotten to that and is feed up with the Jedi and their way of life. He is on the brink of leaving them to be with Padme, but the Republic goes to war with the Separatist and that’s why he stays a Jedi, because he feels that this is where he is needed the most.
Some details that would really make this work, would be to A) let Anakin and Padme know each other or even be a thing from the get go of AOTC and B) make the separatist slavers and change the title crawl to explain that they left the republic due to Padme pushing reforms in the senate.

Mrebo said:

I think it helps greatly if we know that Shmi is no longer a slave. As difficult as it is for Anakin to try to forget about her, it’s more palatable if he knows she is free. I’d have this done in TPM and she is left behind because the Jedi don’t make allowances for parents tagging along. Qui-Gon gives a disapproving look and Shmi gets it and says, “my place is here. My future is here. It is time for you to let go.”

In AOTC I’d leave it implied that Anakin went back at least once, knows the Lars and plausibly had a conversation in years past with Owen about staying. So we would cut Watto in this telling.

I think the story is stronger if Anakin simply can’t let go of his mother even when she is relatively safe. Adopting Peter Pan’s idea to make it more explicitly the Jedi’s fault helps too. Especially with all of Anakin’s ranting about Obi-Wan holding him back which feels out of left field in the movie as is.

I don’t know if it might be cut so the line, “Mind your thoughts, Anakin, they betray you. You’ve made a commitment to the Jedi order…” applies to his dreams about his mother.

Today I played around with the scene you suggested and frankenbit something together, as Eddie would say. 😉
Its not perfect, I don’t particularly like the specific wording of the line I came up with, but I think this gets the idea across.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17C_nZGiBtV2jcEP5i1e0jCEQ4uqb13gS/view?usp=sharing

I’d like to have a link as well please.

Double post

RogueLeader said:

Hahaha, I can’t believe you did this, and so quickly…

I can’t give timecodes, but I think Jar Jar only has 3 scenes in AOTC.

1. When Obi and Anakin reunite with Jar Jar and Padmé.
2. Chancellor and Senators are debating what to do about the crisis near midpoint or end of act 2. I don’t think Jar Jar actually says anything here.
3. Jar Jar gives emergency powers to the Supreme Chancellor.

In ROTS, all he says is “Excuse me” when all of the politicians came out to welcome the Chancellor back from being rescued.

There is also the scene where Padme tells him to replace her in the senate while she’s in hiding.

Found a new use for the Palpatine manipulation scene in AOTC. It is now right at the end and has Palpatine congratulating Anakin on becoming a Jedi Knight.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UhGAydOiRXWCpiraPG7WJjhK5LKIHVlM/view?usp=sharing

Could I get a link to your AOTC edit, please?

Hello.
One word sentences, I use. To hide my identity, often I do.

I think there is a way to tie Anakin not being permitted to see his mother and him becoming a Jedi Knight.
Adding a line to the balcony scene where he tells Obi about his dreams might be enough to establish that he must first pass the trials before he can go see her. With this change all of the complaining about Obi not letting him move on would be understandable and it would immensely benefit ROTS.
This would explain his strong fixation with becoming a Jedi Master and his frustration with the Jedi. Because now the situation with Padme would not just be exactly the same as with Shmi, as it is in the movie.
No now the Jedi are also to blame for not letting Anakin help his mother and are denying him their help again, by not making him a Jedi Master.

Also this might help explain why the Jedi or anybody never helped Shmi, though that remains a gigantic plot convenience, especially if I look at Padme: “Slavery is outlawed in the republic. But I, THE QUEEN OF AN ENTIRE PLANET, won’t help the mother of the boy who saved said planet.”
That’s some real gratitude right there…

Clue is awesome as well.

Just made an account on that site, my username is SadlyMyNameIsTaken.

Would you fancy a game Puggo? But I should warn you I like doing the chess.com’s daily chess puzzle and watching Gotham recaps of chess tournaments. So basically I’m almost a GM 😂

My favorite board game is Terraforming Mars. Great strategy game and every time you play its different.

Thanks for the quick help. 👍

Didn’t knew where to ask, so I’m abusing the thread function, hehe 😛.

Anakin Starkiller said:

I admire lego sets but I can’t justify spending $100+ on what I’d like.

That’s exactly why I quit LEGO. I loved it dearly but I couldn’t justify the expense.

Get a bunch of old legos on eBay or something, start putting something together and see where it goes from there.
That’s the great thing about lego, you can built whatever you want and be creative and of something doesnt work out the way you immagined, you change it.

I mean that’s where all the lego memories come from isn’t it? What you remember is sitting on the floor next to a pile of bricks, actually playing with them and not following building instructions… So why would you follow building instructions to get that feeling back?