Peter Pan

CaptainFaraday said:

I keep thinking about Watto and the chance cube, and how to keep it in a “Qui-Gon frees Shmi” edit. As I figure it, there’s only two moments of dialogue that need to be altered.

When Watto says “red, the boy - blue, his mother,” change it to “red, them both - blue, neither.”

This follows on from “no pod is worth two slaves” and his lecherous “we’ll let fate decide,” and strengthens the following “your friend had better be careful or I’ll end up owning him too,” since (from Watto’s perspective) Qui-Gon now gambled on a whim with very disadvantageous odds.

I wonder if there’s anything in AOTC that might be usable?

Maybe like something like this could work:
W:„No pod is worth two slaves. Not by a long shot.“
Q: „It‘s the fastest ever built“
(Watto thinks)
W: „We‘ll let fate decide. Red, No, blue, yes.“

He says Yes when Qui-Gon shows him the ship („Yes, Yes, Nubien…). I don’t know from the top of my head whether Watto ever says No, but maybe it could be taken from „Not by a long shot“.

Grand Master_ Luke Flywalker said:

I know these lines would be useless for an edit, but just listen to how good this AI Grievous voice sounds. https://fakeyou.com/tts/result/TR:w31g8e0z0yfr8d5gny9r8ds5wtav7 https://fakeyou.com/tts/result/TR:m4hv24rbm167r1b3c8kapzmm5xb1a

The woo-hoo sound is great, you can really hear him suffer 😄

I think Palpatine should be the one to free Anakin’s mother, this would emphasis his importance to Anakin and in my opinion really raise ROTS to another standard. The problem is that Anakin describes him as a friend and mentor and this doesn’t distinguish Palpatine from the Jedi. Palpatine has to have a greater significance to Anakin to justify his decisions.

I am a stupid piece of sh*t. I accidentally deleted the AOTC file I was using for my edit from my iMovie media library and not the copy I had on my desktop. Now my whole edit is basically gone…

CaptainFaraday said:

Peter Pan said:

Check out Obi-Wan’s clone wars voice, this one is spot on and might be useful for some Prequel edits as well, due to JAT’s Obi sounding a lot like Ewan’s.

I typed a test sentence in, and it added some stuff to the end that I didn’t put in. I’m god damn losing it.

Sounds like Obi is losing his sh*t as well 😄

Check out Obi-Wan’s clone wars voice, this one is spot on and might be useful for some Prequel edits as well, due to JAT’s Obi sounding a lot like Ewan’s.

Give 3PO, R2 and Chewbacca camouflage ponchos like the rest of the rebels on Endor.

Maybe some shot from Boba’s flashbacks of the tusken could be reutilized to visualize Anakins nightmares in AOTC.
Especially the earlier flashback of how he was abducted by the tusken could work for this.

darth-gary said:

Years ago I attempted an edit of TPM. I never finished it, but I remember doing a very simple edit in the beginning that seemed to work quite well. It was the scene following the ship blowing up in the hangar and the Jedi reacting to it. Gas is pumped into the room and the Jedi hold their breath. Cut to “Sir… they’ve gone up the ventilation shaft.” This would omit the inane line “They must be dead by now, destroy what’s left of them”, chopping through droids like butter, Qui-Gon trying to burn a hole through the blast doors, and the lightning fast down the hall move when evading the destroyer droids which is never used again. They emerge in the main hangar bay and Qui-Gon says “Battle droids.”, as if confirming a suspicion out loud rather than seeming surprised at seeing lots of battle droids even though they just fought a dozen or so of them a minute earlier with the scene intact. The Jedi kicking ass is then saved for a later scene when they’re trying to free the Queen from the droid escort on Naboo.

This is brilliant, great short cut. Though I don’t know how well this would play into the amidala=Death Star plans angle.
But regardless of that I really like this idea.

Maybe we could replace Kylo’s line about clone troopers in TFA with something that could indicate there indication. Thanks to his voice modulator, redubbing him is fairly simple. I just can’t think of any fitting line right now and I am way too busy with my exams at the moment to give it a lot of thought.

CaptainFaraday said:

Peter Pan said:

There is the really dirty option to just trim the reaction shot of maul. Its the only shot the blood is in, you could easily shorten it by a second and skip the blood. You would only need to fix the audio afterwards to get rid of mauls grunt when the saber hits him. That could be a little tricky, but not really time consuming. At worst you would have to redo the saber-slashing sound effect and find a clean recording of the score.

I’d just move the audio forwards so that it starts at what is now the beginning of the trimmed shot, then shave the difference off the end of the audio sometime before whatever the next SFX is (Obi-Wan deactivating the saber, I think).

I’d do it the same way if it wasn’t for Maul’s grunt after he is hit, sadly it overlaps with the SFX of the saber.

There is the really dirty option to just trim the reaction shot of maul. Its the only shot the blood is in, you could easily shorten it by a second and skip the blood. You would only need to fix the audio afterwards to get rid of mauls grunt when the saber hits him. That could be a little tricky, but not really time consuming. At worst you would have to redo the saber-slashing sound effect and find a clean recording of the score.

I don’t think huttese is an option for this scene. Qui-Gon doesn’t speak huttese, Watto is only talking in huttese when he is talking to Anakin.

StarkillerAG said:

Peter Pan said:

“The uploaded has not made this video available in your country”

What’s the bigger Joke, the Joke or the Joke that follows?

The original video was Weird Al’s song The Saga Begins. It’s a parody of the song American Pie, with the lyrics changed to be about the plot of TPM. The crawl Sade posted was the first verse of that song.

Ahh, that explains why the crawl rhyme, I was both wondering about that and really impressed with Sade.

CaptainFaraday said:

Peter Pan said:

CaptainFaraday said:

2. I like that new structure! I wonder if there’s a way of keeping more of the original scenes, though - maybe the Jedi are going to the Droid Control Ship first to either end the invasion diplomatically, or they think the Queen is being held there, depending on dialogue options. It could even be a deliberate trap for them to go there first, since Sidious would know the Senate has dispatched Jedi to go there and rescue the Queen.

Maybe Gunray could tell the Jedi that they have the Queen on board to lure them into a trap?
This would make him more active and less dependent on Sidious.

That’s a good idea. Is there Gunray dialogue we could repurpose?

I’d suggest cutting the little exchange between Qui-gon and the pilot and redubbing her to say something explaining that they’re ambassadors sent to escort Amidala to coruscant. Then we could alter Gunray’s response to “Yes of course. The Queen and I would be happy to receive the ambassadors.”

This is great, I love the shots you chose, it all fits really good. A big improvement upon the original, at least in my book.

“The uploaded has not made this video available in your country”

What’s the bigger Joke, the Joke or the Joke that follows?

I think this works great.

CaptainFaraday said:

2. I like that new structure! I wonder if there’s a way of keeping more of the original scenes, though - maybe the Jedi are going to the Droid Control Ship first to either end the invasion diplomatically, or they think the Queen is being held there, depending on dialogue options. It could even be a deliberate trap for them to go there first, since Sidious would know the Senate has dispatched Jedi to go there and rescue the Queen.

Maybe Gunray could tell the Jedi that they have the Queen on board to lure them into a trap?
This would make him more active and less dependent on Sidious.

In regards to the Sith revealing themself, I would like to make Mace a little doubtful of their reappearance. Maybe change his dialogue to something like this: “It looks like the mysterious warrior was a Sith.” (Yoda) “If they really returned.”
This would hit the same chord as Madam Jocasta’s remark about the Jedi Archives in AOTC.

I think the simplest way to fix the sky would be to darken the sky for the amidala Palpatine scene and lose the shot of the setting sun. I’ll play around with that.

Edit: I realize now that the scene with Maul And Sidious is shot on the balcony of Palpatiine’s apartment, it’s the exact same railing. I have never noticed that till now.

I have been talking briefly about this idea in the prequel ideas thread, but I think associating the separatist with slavers could really benefit the story, making the whole conflict feel a lot more personal to Anakin.
So what if the gungan are the reason the federation chose Naboo? This could be explained with them wanting slaves that can operate under water or something.
It would both connect Anakin’s story to the overarching story of TPM and add a lot of emotion to the battle between the gungan and the federation army to a point that it would almost exactly parallel the battle in Spartacus, which it optically already does.

To explain why they are looking at Watto’s record, you could add a line saying that he sold Cliegg something from his shop. I think right before the “I’d like to know line” would be the perfect. Maybe like this:
“…other side of Mos Eisley. I sold him a T-” “I’d like to know.” break “Sure, lets take a look at my records.”

evansj1983 said:

With all the talk (both here and in the TPM community thread) of having Shmi already be free by the time of AOTC, I wanted to share this attempt I made at the Watto scene to remove references to him selling her but maintain the information we need about the Lars family.

I think that has potential. Only the “years ago” line is a bit jarring, because the lip-sync doesn’t match. Maybe that could be fixed by shuffling the shots around, but I am not sure about that, I would need to watch the full scene again.

I am thinking about how to add flashbacks of the Tusken to Anakins duel with Dooku in AOTC. The idea is to imply that the anger from that is fueling him.
Maybe this could be put before Anakin reenters the fight, so that it looks like Dooku threatening to kill Obi-Wan triggered Anakins flashbacks of his mother.