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#1459475
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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A while ago, I posted about an idea to radically alter Episode 6, to incorporate some kind of biological weapon instead of another Death Star. Both to avoid a rehash of Episode 4 as well as raise the stakes infinitively. If our hero’s fail, the emperor will use this weapon to eradicate all alien life in the galaxy.

So basically James Bond made me think about this again.
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Spoiler alert if you haven’t seen it yet: Because of the Nano bots I had to think of this again.
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So here is me trying to incorporate it into the movie.
And first things first the Death Star needs to stay, at least optically. It would be to much of a pain to cut it out of any space battle, meeting and background shot. But it would be the remains of the first one now. The story I have in mind is the following: The empire was already working on their genocide-virus-weapon thing, back in Episode 4. (maybe add a little remark from on of the Imperials during their meeting with Tarkin and Vader in Episode 4)’, to set this up properly)
Then the rebel alliance destroyed the Death Star and unknowingly the rescued everybody. But the empire repaired the Death Star in part to resume their work on the weapon.

Now to keep most of the material in the movie, the Death Star would still be protected by the shield generator and the rebels would still try to fly inside the Death Star and destroy something inside, causing the whole station to blow up again. Only difference would be that the wouldn’t target the main reactor but some generator that is vital to the production of this toxin. Redub Mon Mothma and Ackbar to explain the plan during the meeting.

And obviously there wouldn’t be a trap in form of a fleet hiding behind the moon, but this fleet would rather be expected to be there, because the emperor needs the ships to deploy the weapon in every part of the galaxy.

And instead of the super-Laser hitting the Liberty, it would get shot with this weapon, killing all the Mon-Calamari on board.

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#1459473
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I’ll just continue spitballing ideas here:

Qui-Gon sacrifices himself to defeat Maul. Show him push a button on Maul’s wrist the moment he gets stabbed, that activates the ray-shield, so that Obi-Wan can take a free hit on Maul, either killing him instantly or gaining a winning advantage.

Or let Obi-Wan take the other half of Maul’s lightsaber to cut him in half. Him using a red blade to take revenge would be a great detail and pretty easy to do. Just change the color of the blade and replace the close up of qui-Gons saber.

Use some material from the Gungan battle for a prologue.
Have the Droid army go against the Gungan before the movie starts and introduce Jar Jar as a leader type of character, who ran away. Make Him Boss Ness’ son maybe, to explain why he was in this position in the first place. He would now not be a baffoon, but a coward, who wants to redeem himself. So he chooses to guide Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan to the Gungan, without hesitation and chooses to take the dangerous path through the core to save time. This would build up to the moment he convinces Amidala to go back and fight.

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#1459435
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I don’t like Darth Maul in TPM, he is just an evil face doing backflips. So why not give him some story and make him Qui-Gon’s ex and give them some history, that would add some real drama to their fight. And it would fit in nicely with the rest of the story as it would raise the question whether Anakin will end up like Maul, turn evil and kill his loved one (spoiler alert by the way ;D) or will he be chose the right way, like Qui-Gon did.

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#1459433
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Dune - Denis Villeneuve
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Didn’t like it. Don’t hate it either. In my opinion it’s way to long and doesn’t have anything to say really. It touches upon multiple difficult topics, sure, but it either doesn’t follow through with them or it just straight up fails them. For example, take the spice mining thing about exploitation of both the people and the land. The people are introduced as warriors fighting for their freedom from the oppressors, but we don’t know what they are fighting for. Nothing is said about their culture apart from fighting. Also we don’t see in which way they are oppressed, they are shown to be the aggressor attacking a farming ship right in the beginning. In fact the Harkonens don’t even know how many of them are on arrakis, which makes it look like they just ignored them? Hardly what I would call criticism of colonialism. If they would have been enslaved by them or imprisoned or rounded up and killed in large numbers by the Harkonnens, that would have been criticism, but we aren’t shown any of that.
Now on to the exploiting the land trope. This is much better supported by what is shown in the movie, but its just feels so artificial. This planet might be exploited for its natural resources, but we aren’t shown the scars that this endeavor caused. The Planet is a wasteland, but not BECAUSE of the spice mining, but because it was a desert to BEGIN WITH!? WHYYYYY, there is so much potential flushed down the toilet, its infuriating.

Anyways there are other things that bugged me, like the confuse political landscape and the nonsensical plot, (why take care of the astreides, via luring them to Arrakis and buffing the herkonnten, if the harkonnen, the wipe the floor with them and are the much more obvious thread to this emperor?) or the ever repeating color palate. I get that desert are beige, but please give some contrast every once in a while. For example give Pauls vision some visiual distinguishability or give the few natives that we see more colorful cloths or give the city on Arrakis some bright colors to show that it doesn’t belong to this world. Anything to break the everlasting dullness of it all.

So to round things up after a more thorough rant than intended, I am disappointed, I expected more, good night.

P.S.: Is it just me, who thought that the water animation after the astreides ship took off looked awful.

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#1457762
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Cadavra said:

Has anyone experimented with replacing the dated digital model of Maul’s top half falling down the shaft? A CGI replacement probably wouldn’t look more realistic, but if it was smaller like we were seeing it further down, its fakeness might be less obvious. People are doing some wild stuff with Battlefront assets these days…

If you just want his body parts to become smaller while they fall, you could try to rotoscope them out, use a digital zoom on them and put it on a clean background. That should be rather easy to do. You could use runwayml to mask out maul and use a still image for the background. (if it isn’t already a still frame in the shot where he is falling, I can’t remember that right now)

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#1455265
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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That reminded me of an unfinished project of mine, aiming to completely remake AOTC, which featured a new origin story for the clone army as well as some other drastically changes and restructures.

The idea was basically to change the kaminoans original client from the republic to the trade federation.
The story goes like this: After TPM Nute Gunray turned to Silo Dyas (possibly Dooku’s underling, hadn’t worked out his story) to acquire a clone army, because the droids have proven themself inefficient in combat.

However Obi-Wan discovers this operation during the events of AOTC and after he informs the Jedi and the senate of this army, they decide to bust the deal and payed the Kaminoans twice of whatever Gunray offered them. Venal as the Kaminoans are (luckily this is set up by Dex) they agree and the republic acquires the service of the clones.

Here is the scene of Obi-Wan informing the Jedi and the Chancellor:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17D0Qvk1UfWHYq-q72A25BVpk6WAvWXbn/view?usp=sharing

Now on to Order 66. The existence of this protocol doesn’t make sense, if the clones were never intended to fight side by side with the Jedi. To be honest I don’t have a perfect solution to explain why it exist, so sadly it’ll remain as a deus ex machina to get rid of the Jedi for the OT to happen.
Maybe Palpatine planed all this or maybe the protocol was intended to keep the Clones from revolting. Any explanation is as bad as it being a safeguard against rouge Jedi, which only Tyrannus and the Kaminoans know of.

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#1455224
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Cadavra said:

Regarding the common complaint that nobody seems suspicious about the Republic being handed the clone army on a silver platter, has anyone experimented with beefing up the dialogue of the final Mace/Obi/Yoda scene in AOTC to suggest the Jedi do try to investigate between films, but had no choice but to accept the clones for the time being? Seems to me there are enough lines in the prequels about plots and puzzles to cobble something together. As a rough proof of concept based on nothing more than lines I remember offhand:

  • MACE: Where is your apprentice?
  • OBI-WAN: On his way to Naboo, escorting Senator Amidala home…Do you believe what Count Dooku said about Sidious controlling the Senate? It doesn’t feel right.
  • YODA: Joined the dark side Dooku has. Lies, deceit, creating mistrust are his ways now.
  • MACE: Nevertheless, I feel we should keep a closer eye on the clones.
  • YODA: I agree. Dangerous and disturbing this puzzle is.
  • MACE: Whoever placed that order did not have the authorization of the Jedi Council.
  • YODA: Speculation is all we have. Proof we need.
  • OBI-WAN: There is a massive shift in the Force; we all feel it. But I have to admit that without the clones, it would not have been a victory.
  • YODA: Victory? Victory, you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the Clone War has.

Granted, you would still have the potential issue that when ROTS picks up, it’s three years later and the Jedi are still working with the clones with no follow-up about that investigation, but then again they’re obviously suspicious enough that they want Anakin to spy on Palpatine.

That’s a cool idea with a lot of potential, however you might run out of footage, as the scene isn’t that long. Maybe you should cut the line about Anakin returning to Naboo to mitigate that problem.

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#1452177
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Worst Edit Ideas
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Make “I can’t breath” a running gag and add it to every episode just like “I have a bad feeling about this”.
In TPM Obi-Wan could say it whilst him and Qui-Gon are following Jar Jar underwater. AOTC has it already and in every following entry people are getting force choked. As this is a new force-power, adding this legendary line would go a long way to explain it.

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#1451223
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Firstly Han should miss the Sarlacc’s tentacle, instead Luke hits it via deflecting a blaster bolt.
Then make some changes to the briefing room scene, so that Han is supposed to lead the fighter attack and Leia leads the ground forces. I have no idea how to do that yet, maybe redub General Madine.

And then we nee a scene where Han talks to Lando and tells him to lead the fighter squadron in his stead. Two scenes might work as a template, the hangar scene where Han tells Lando to take the falcon or their short conversation before the briefing begins. The only really difficulty should be the dialogue.

And while I’m at it here is another idea. Maybe have Han offer to help doing repairs to the falcon and Lando declines explaining that no repairs are necessary. Just a little notch adding to Han’s feeling of uselessness as in his absence the falcon has finally been fully repaired.

Anyways as you can see I am really just brainstorming over here.

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#1451192
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Just a wild thought, but what if Han had more trouble integrating into the rebellion and his every day live after his time frozen in carbonite?

For example he could want to lead the fighter squadron but must realize that his eyesight isn’t good enough yet.

So we could give him insecurities about himself that he might project at his relationship with Leia. And this tension would be resolved by the “I love you”,“I know” scene. (the one by the bunker, where Leia gets shot and shoots the two troopers)

Any thoughts?

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#1450186
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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After Rey withstands Kylos interrogation and pushes back add a quick montage of Kylo using or learning mind trick and/or other abilities.

So that it plays out just like the scene where Harry sees Snapes memories in Order of the Phoenix.

As for the footage for this montage you could use Kylo interrogating Poe. Other than that there is a cut scene from the single player campaign of Battlefront 2, I think.