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#1450186
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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After Rey withstands Kylos interrogation and pushes back add a quick montage of Kylo using or learning mind trick and/or other abilities.

So that it plays out just like the scene where Harry sees Snapes memories in Order of the Phoenix.

As for the footage for this montage you could use Kylo interrogating Poe. Other than that there is a cut scene from the single player campaign of Battlefront 2, I think.

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#1442751
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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CaptainFaraday said:

That gives me a lateral idea: I don’t know if there’s a restoration of the original Declan Mulholland Jabba scene available at good enough quality (I’ve only ever seen very patchy ones), but with some dialogue trims, it might be possible to make it seems like Declan Mulholland’s character is someone who works for Jabba.

I don’t think another of Jabba’s henchmen would work here as Han has just met Greedo and meeting another one wouldn’t add anything. But there is potential with the original scene I think.

Maybe Declan Mulholland’s character could be another crime boss to whom Han is in debt. Now Han wouldn’t just owe Jabba (which is bad enough really) but apparently the whole crime scene in Mos Eisley and to spice things up a little more Declan Mulholland’s character could also know that Han owes Jabba as well as him, which would add some nice similarities to the kanjiklub scene in TFA.

Anyway what I actually wanted to say was in regards to the Holo-Jabba idea. Maybe the Hologram could be projects by a big bulky Droid to cover most of the whole Jabba left.
Maybe a droid like this one:
droid

Or a modified Droideka with no guns but an extra array hanging below the snout.

JEDIT: don’t know why the picture isn’t there sorry. I had a clunky R1 Astromech in mind like the one on the sandcrawler in ANH.

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#1442505
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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This is a really good idea, although a challeng to say the least as you would have to create a clean background to put the hologram on top. And you might have to cut the bit where Han moves behind Jabba or do some clever editing. (maybe there is a close up of Han talking which could bridge him walking to Jabbas left and standing to his right)

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#1442437
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Yes I suppose, but he still needed to learn that Vader was still around. And if the news of some Sith Lord in a black suite called Darth Vader roaming the galaxy reached Obi-Wan, I am sure that he caught some whispers and stories of Inquisitors and this Vader hunting rouge Jedi too.

JEDIT: Didn’t knew Vader made the news. But either way Obi had 19 years to hear stories about Jedi being hunted down and connect the dots.

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#1442429
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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TestingOutTheTest said:

sade1212 said:

TestingOutTheTest said:

In ANH Obi-Wan described Vader as having hunted down the Jedi, so your idea conflicts with that.

Also, so… Obi-Wan’s lying to Padmé to locate Anakin?

I can’t believe I’m engaging with Testing again but… plenty of Jedi survived Order 66. In both the old EU and the current canon, there are many comics and stories of Vader finding and killing these survivors. Vader killing most of them when they were all rounded up in a temple is barely “hunting down” to begin with!

Okay, but how would Obi-Wan know about that?

The same way he learned that Anakin survived Mustafar, I suppose.

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#1441894
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Stardust1138 said:

Cadavra said:

I’m sure making Sifo-Dyas a Sith apprentice was one of George’s ideas at one point, but both the original EU and Clone Wars season 6 (which was technically released under Disney but written with George’s direct involvement) officially established him as a well-intentioned Jedi whose drastic actions were discovered and exploited by Sidious, who eventually ordered Dooku to have him killed.

Definitely an intriguing idea for a fanedit linking the trilogies, though.

I honestly think there was more to the story than just what was established in Clone Wars. I’m reminded of this retrospect. Dave Filoni really implied there was more going on.

https://youtu.be/KGBdRW7jjUk

My theory is Sifo-Dyas and Dooku were both secretly trained by Palpatine at the same time. They were both challenging each other for who would lead the Separatist Movement. However once Sifo-Dyas no longer served a purpose Palpatine had Sifo-Dyas killed as he fulfilled his requirement of ordering the army and the trace of Sith’s involvement was lost due to the illusion it was a Jedi who set things into motion. So sort of what you’re saying but with the added layer of what George talked about.

I think this has a lot of potential and could be incorporated into a fan edit of TPM by changing Sidious Hologram to Sifo-Dyas (played and voiced by a new actor).

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#1441238
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Sure Sifo Dyas isn’t a mayor character in the Story. But that’s precisely why I see potential to implement him into TPM. We don’t know exactly how he looks and speaks. Yet if we change the Hologram there would be plenty of scenes to utilize to change the story substantially.
I think there is some massive potential not just to alter TPM but AOTC as well and help connecting the two better.

So here’s what I’m thinking:
For TPM:
-have sifo dyas as the link between Sidious and the Trade Federation; maybe he could make some remark about a clone army much like Kylie did in TFA

-Qui-Gon is friends with Sifo Dyas and senses something off, once he sets foot on the trade federations ship (much like Vader senses obi-wans presence in ANH)
-when Qui-Gon meditates in the final duel with Maul show how he realizes that it was Sifo Dyas he sensed on the ship and that he was involved with the trade federation. Now when he dies this information is lost.

Now AOTC:
-Instead of the clone army being made for the republic change its customer to be the trade federation, who want to replace their droids which failed them on Naboo. This would also explain why Kamino was deleted from the Jedi archives.

-after Obi-Wan’s discovery on Kamino the Republic decides to pay the Kaminoans tripple (it’s set up by dexster’s description of them that their loyalties lie with the money only)

-change poggle’s subtitles to express the betrayal the separatist experience after the clones enter the battle on geonosis.

These simple changes would do three things: 1.add a character driven subplot to TPM that is set up in the opening and resolved in the end.
2. Connect TPM and AOTC
3. Remove the mystery surrounding Sifo Dyas and do away with the problem that nobody seems to be suspicious of an army that was secretly made for the republic and ordered well before any mayor conflict was on the horizon.
This literally has „evil twist“ written all over it.
Now it seems that the republic was able to snatch this army from their adversaries and nobody could suspect that this was part of a greater scheme.

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#1441172
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I wonder if you could add Sifo Dyas to TPM by tweaking sidious’ holograms and keep only his scene with Maul on coruscant as a cameo.

The tricky thing might be to write and record Sifo Dyas new dialogue so that it is evident that he is merely the messenger and not the real mastermind.
Other than that there could be some opportunities to hint at his real identity, for example it could be him that warns Gunray that the ambassadors are Jedi knights or he could propose to buy a better army.
Cough, cough, clones or something, cough, cough.

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#1440168
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Well I don’t see a way to move Order 66 to AOTC but you could add a time jump to ROTS. Or stretch the timespan between Anakins turn + Order 66 and the final duel to maybe a week and make a scene or montage of him fighting some Jedi. The slaughter of the separatist should work as a template, maybe add some lightsabers to some of them and you should be good to go.

Now for the structural change.
The seeds of Rebellion plot line would fit perfectly to bridge the time gap and maybe show how things changed, especially the final scene with Anakin and Padme on opposing sites would be great in this context. (though Palpatine would need a deepfake to get his wrinkly face)

After the senators realized that the won’t achieve anything in the senate, some of them leave with Bail, who made contact with Obi-Wan and Yoda.

The two of them were lead to a small Jedi Temple on some outer rim world, because of a beacon sent by a surviving Jedi. But upon their arrival they find all Jedi to be dead and see a recording of Anakin killing them. Afterwards they change the beacon and contact Organa.

after that they meet up with him on Mustafar where the senators have met in secret. And Palpatine dispatches Vader to sniff out this “rebellion”. But after he arrives he meets Padme and Obi-Wan and the fight ensues.

Something like that should be feasible, what do you think?

P.S.:
By the way, I just realized how stupid the original trap to lure in rouge Jedi was.
I mean sure, ask them to come home and lower their guard after publicly declaring your intention to annihilate them. 10/10, just perfect

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#1439931
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Is there any edit of TPM that removes the Queen twist? The principle of an elected underage monarch feels weird anyways. I only wonder what changes to the third act would be necessary. Maybe the Queen could send Padme and the Jedi in secret, while staying on coruscant in an attempt to get the republic to help? Maybe the queen disgruntles the Gungans due to being prejudiced and Padme jumps in to negotiate?
No matter how the finale plays out there would be the huge possibility to rewrite and rerecord the queens dialogue as she would be a different character now. Maybe even age her up. Heck make her ancient and go full Princess Dragomiroff style.
Princess

Her headdress looks nabooan already.

Anyway I am getting off track. Has anybody here tried to remove the queen twist? And apart from that what are your thoughts on this?

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#1423649
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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SparkySywer said:

Artan42 said:

A chancellor with unchecked power altering the constitution whenever he wants to stay in power forever? Yeah, no government has ever worked like that.

Can you truly call that a working government?

Counterquestion: Is the Republic in ROTS a working government?

This whole scenario in this movie reminds me of the dying days of the Weimar Republic. During that time the parliament had little power and the chancellor was ruling with emergency powers authorized by the president, until he had enough and appointed a new chancellor.

This sounds almost exactly like the Chancellor appointing governors to bypass the senate in ROTS.

Now after Hindenburg died, Hitler took over and was now chancellor AND president. And it took only a few months until he had crippled the constitution to a point, that it barely deserved the name. He arrested many political enemies and suspended a number of articles and thus abolished all personal rights. After that the parliament had to surrender their legislative power to him, it’s important to point out that armed forces were present when the law was passed.

There you have your amendments to the constitution. With that in mind it’s really not that much of a silly line, but more of an expression of what state the Republic is in.