Peonthegrate

I’ve just started watching and am a few “episodes” in. Really am enjoying it so far.

I have a few things of note though that I’m not crazy about.

In the first episode where ahsoka is introduced, I find the the bail organa scenes feel to me very out of place compared to e everything else.

Also a mino personal preference complaint for the rookies set if episodes, I like all the changes that were made, but I personally miss the droids asking if they take prisoners and heavy saying “I don’t”. I normally am not crazy about one liners like that, but for there I think it fits.

Could I get a link as well? Thanks!

Would also like a link

I would also like a link please

Awesome, there’s a few hidden gems in his cultists that I hadn’t noticed until watching it.

NeverarGreat said:

I didn’t realize that was in Hal’s version.

Yeah I believe it is, I remember being surprised by it. I can find the timestamp of it later today potentially.

“Subtle rendition of the first part of the Emperor’s Theme has been added to the Imperial March as we see Vader’s shattered helmet (thanks to Sir Ridley).
Added two lines from the Emperor during Rey’s Force vision to very gently hint toward the revelations within Episode IX.”

Could I get a link aswell

Could I have a link aswell?

I can’t remember exactly where it is in hals restructured TFA, but will this version keep the added palpatine laugh that (I think?) Was added to the sequence where rey has a vision from Lukes lightsaber?

I really liked that addition.

Hi, i’m very sorry if this is the wrong place to ask. But is there a similar edit that anyone has made or that you have made that is essentially the same as this Return of the Jedi edit, with the only major change being that it keeps Hayden Christensen as Anakin?

axlanian said:

Puppet show looks AMAZING! I fully support the idea to extend it with a zoomed in shot.

RogueLeader said:

I’ve suggested ways to emphasize it even more, like having Palpatine’s voice sometimes be layered with multiple echoing voices. Like all the Sith are speaking through him.

So I have been playing with this idea for the past little while, trying to make it work. This is still rough, but I think it’s in a position that I can show it for feedback. I really wanted the “I am all the Sith” thing to lean into the “I am Legion” idea of the Sith literally possessing Palpatine’s body, so this is my attempt at conveying that. I’ve used Sade’s PHENOMENAL re-ordering of Palpatine’s dialogue, ending on “No match for the power in me”.

Now, I had seen people on here mention that the pregnant pause in dialogue in this cut was unfortunate, and some wishing that it ended on “You are nothing” so that it’s clear that Rey is responding to THAT specifically. So I let the Sith voices do the talking during that pause. Honestly, I’m pumped about how this is going, but I need everyone’s ears. Does this rule? Or does it suck?

https://vimeo.com/553993952

Hmmm this is interesting, I’m still not 100% sold on the idea of all the sith essentially living in Palpatine, however if we do go down that route I think combining this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/702816288342278207/845867790724235304/Sith_scream.mp4 with what you have here could be very cool.

Puppet show looks incredible! I just wish it was slowed down a tiny bit because of how nice it looks.

I’d love a link too if you still have it.

The new added sound of palpatine dying in johns newest scene with all the Ghost jedi is very cool, I hope we end up using that. I also like the one you added Cinefy. If you can’t hear it Hal, its around the 4 second mark, I sounds like the scream palpatine did while dolphin diving at mace windu in Episode 3.

To me the Captain Hux sounds very very off at the moment. I like the idea, but it sounds obviously cut in to me, and sounds like Gaptain not Captain for some reason.

I honestly don’t hear anything off about the mockup of her saying “I am a jedi”. Not saying the other parts don’t need ironing out. But I think Reys dialogue sounds perfectly fine.

sherlockpotter said:

Alright, this may be stupid, but something is still nagging me about “We’ll kill him together.” It’s a tiny nag, admittedly - I think it’s because “We WILL kill him” comes across less like Kylo is imploring her to help him end the Sith, and more like, “Oh boy, here we go killing again!” It’s like Kylo cares more about killing this guy than he does about stopping the Sith. Maybe it’s just the way Adam Driver delivers the line? (Emphasis on “Kill” instead of “We’ll”?) I know, I know, it’s a subtle connotative difference; but it’s gnawing at me.

Plus, “We WILL do this” doesn’t really leave open any other choices for Rey, which - to me - deflates the tension of the moment considerably. “Of course Kylo’s wrong. She’s not going to start murdering people with him!” Rather than, “Oh gosh, Kylo has a point. What’s Rey going to do?”

So I made a quick mockup. Is it worth trying to iron out the new line? https://streamable.com/4tms6i

(Between this, “Become a Dyad,” and the eventual Rey Nobody replacement, we’re just going to change all of Kylo’s dialogue in this scene, aren’t we? Lol.)

EDIT: I also did a bit more work on this thingy: https://streamable.com/ffimpr

Blended out Palp’s Theme (I hope) a little bit better, cleaned up the word “a”, added a clip of Rey panting to cover up the omission of “and,” and also trimmed down the dramatic pause before she finishes her line (to help fudge the lip sync). Any better? The video cut on Rey’s line could be a little tighter and overlap the line on her catching the second saber more; I’m just worried about carving too deeply into the closeup shot.

I love both thing you made here, but I also would personally think leaving in I am all the Sith would be good.

Could I get a link? Ty!

Could I get a link? Thanks!

I was always under the impression that when Palpatine says he is all the sith, he was just simply referring to the rule of two. And how the apprentice always defeats the master, leaving just him to be the culmination of all the sith. and being the most powerful sith.

May I ask what edit of ROTJ you have that has that?

Yeah I can see everyone’s points. I guess ideally for me personally I’d rather him look similar to a non deformed version of Palpatine from TPM or something.

I also can’t remember if the novelization stated that the cloned bodies were force sensitive or not. I know reys father wasn’t if I remember correctly.

I was thinking about this earlier. Shouldn’t the cloned palpatine faces in the liquid vats shown early in the film be younger versions of him and not disfigured?

Because Rey’s father was a clone of palpatine and was obviously show to be young. Unless I’m not remembering something correctly.

sherlockpotter said:

Getting away from huge, controversial lore changes for a hot minute (God, at least I hope I am. I don’t even know anymore)…

Hal 9000 said:

I like the idea of moving Rey’s death forward, however, aside from the seemingly large task of musical score, I’d hate to break it apart from Finn’s reaction. With what you suggest I imagine chuckling that Finn is sensing he’s once again been put in the friend zone in favor of Kylo Ren. Like he’s saying “Oh no, not this guy again. Get away from her why don’tcha.”

Yeah, so…I kinda took a stab at this.

I’m definitely open to feedback on the audio transitions - that first one especially is pretty tricky. Hal, do you think the cutaways to Finn work in this new context?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jrxdxU_SxgbNxK-uUdLh1qyyg5tKn3-_/view?usp=sharing

Changes:

• Pushing Rey’s death forward to immediately after Palpatine dies, both so that it doesn’t feel like she just drops dead randomly, and also to extend the tension before her resurrection for longer than 30 seconds because I still think tension is important, darn it
• Cutting directly to Rey’s corpse after Finn and Jannah blow up Pryde’s ship
• Reinserted Finn sensing Rey, but moved backwards to when Ben finds her body. My hope is that their reactions compliment one another.
• Removed the kiss. I know Hal said in his commentary track that he’s not particularly interested in this change; but I figured I might as well practice cutting it for my own benefit, since I was rearranging the music in this scene anyway.

Also, I want to know…what music editor saw these shots and was like, “You know what one word describes all of this? Peaceful.” What a fecking wackadoo.

Really really like this. I do think trimming away the lando being all giddy with chewie scene before they save Finn and his daughter would improve it even further though.

Yeah, it is true that in cannon it is not at all widely known that palpatine is a sith. I would personally prefer removing the line so it connected better with the OT and cannon.