zxthehedgehog, Colson, it’ll be great if you guys can record the open matte version. If any of you need some assistance, PM me. I’ll try to help. This is something I’m really interested in seeing preserved. If I had HBO Now in my country, I would have subscribed. So I’m depending on you folks. All the best and let us know, please. Thanks.
Screen capping? As in taking pictures? Is there no way to capture the video stream? I’m sure a lot of softwares are available for capturing streaming videos.
Search in Google. Sent u a PM, please check.
scoodidabop, what is the status of the open matte version you said you’ll share with us? It’s been a long time since we last heard from you. Please let us know, thanks. There is no need for a 4K version. the 1080p is fine. Will anxiously await your reply for this gem of a version.
Please share this rare version with us. Many of us have expressed interest in watching this version. This is in all likelihood, perhaps the only chance we’ll get and we’re relying on you.
Colson, any further updates?
Logos and adverts ruin films.
Ok. Thanks!
Without logo, great! Did you get to record this whole ‘HBO NOW’ broadcast?
This seems like the only clean logo/subtitle-less open matte version out there. HBO Now is not available in India, otherwise I’d have subscribed to their services.
Sky Hits HD (UK) showing Jurassic World - https://twitter.com/JurassicOutpost
This will most likely be the same open matte version. Sky HD has previously aired all the earlier Jurassic Park films in open matte 1.78:1. Those in the UK can have a look and compare, maybe take a few screenshots.
Maybe, it’s not showing at HBO here. If you can take some screen-grabs and compare with the Blu-Ray, it’ll be clear whether it’s open matte or not. But remember, some scenes were shot on 70mm (2.20:1 native area). Those scenes won’t be open matte. But the version I saw, the majority of scenes were open matte; almost the entire film.
HBO Now has the film in 16:9, but I’m not sure if it’s open matte or cropped.
It has to be the same open matte master. Otherwise there would be too much crop. There are some scenes where dinosaurs and humans are at the extreme opposite ends of the frame. They would both be cropped out if the master was a pan & scan. However, having seen the film on Sony Pix in India, I can confirm that the film is open matte.
Once again, here are some screenshots (Blu-ray vs DTV broadcast)-
Please take a look and say what you all think now.
In this case, no such risk, as the film retains the original width, with the vertical space opened up. And the dinosaur scenes and wide open vistas really benefit from the opened up frame, in my opinion. It also helps that 1.78:1 is very close to 1.85:1 of JP trilogy.
Have a look at these preview trailers on youtube and compare the framing with the Blu-Ray/DVD -
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Take a look at the screenshots I provided on imgur. Link is above.
Jurassic World was shown open matte, not cropped. And I prefer it to pan & scan. Plus it looks better to me, especially in the dinosaur sequences, where the open matte shows the full creature and its movements.
Here’s some shots compared with Blu-ray. As you can see, the broadcast is open matte.
Have a look at these preview trailers on youtube and compare the framing with the Blu-Ray/DVD -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puWYeyHbxzE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0EZN15u26k
Some scenes, which were shot using 70mm (2.20:1 native) are slightly cropped at the sides. 90% of the film was done on super 35. And no, not all VFX plates were done on 70mm. Many plates are Super 35. They are all open-matte.
In India, Sony Pix channel premiered Jurassic World today and it is open-matte 16:9. This is great news, for me at least. The film was shot mostly on Super 35, so a 1.78:1 ratio was inevitable for Television. The framing looks really good and IMAX-like. I’m sure many other broadcasts of the film will be open-matte as well. Especially in PAL countries.
All of the previous 3 films were shown in 1.78:1 on cable, so this forms part of the herd. Also, I kind of felt the 2.00:1 ratio was odd. The broadcast ratio is closer to 1.85:1 which is the ratio of all the earlier films.
Maybe someone can preserve this version when it airs on their TV channels. Especially if there is no subtitle ruining the image.
Any further updates about the open matte, anyone?
Digital IMAX is actually 1.89:1 (not 16:9/1.78:1). Even then, that aspect ratio is taller than 2.39:1. They could’ve used a larger IMAX framing.
It’sa shame they didn’t utilise a taller aspect ratio for the HP films in IMAX, because they shot on Super 35. Even Azkaban was shot full aperture (open matte). HP 1, 2, 4, and Deathly Hallows Part 2 look beautiful in open matte.
I’m sure that Fantastic Beasts will also be the same boring 2.39:1 on IMAX. To me IMAX is first about the larger aspect ratio, sound is secondary. The name IMAX is an abbreviation of ‘Image Maximum.’ It was built in such a way so as to differentiate it’s look from general cinemascope, flat and 70mm formats. Nowadays, the IMAX brand has diluted.
I said there’s a probability. Like, if it gets a 4:3 broadcast, they might use the larger 1.43:1 frame and do a slight crop to 1.33:1. That’d be worth having. As of now, I’m not aware if such a broadcast has happened. Keep your eyes open for it!
Did the IMAX version you saw have a higher color saturation, or is it the BD?
Also, was there a taller aspect ratio on IMAX? How was the PQ?
These are incredible! It’s almost the entire IMAX frame. Little bit cut at the sides doesn’t bother me much as when projected on IMAX film, the film gate would crop a certain amount of information from the edges anyway. The Logo needs to be removed, and the resolution can be upsized to 1280*960 (4:3), as I think 1080p upsizing would be too much. This can be a very good separate project to the 1080p 16:9 version that’s in the works.
Also, be on the lookout for ‘MI: Rogue Nation’ as select scenes (The Water tank scene, The bike riding sequence, etc) were shot using the ARRI ALEXA 65mm camera which has a 16:9 aspect ratio. So, a broadcast sourced from the digital negative will likely be open matte in those scenes as well.
There’s a high probability that Nolan’s ‘Interstellar’ will be broadcast 4:3 open matte like this film as well. It’ll be very exciting to watch the original 15/70mm framing.
P.S: The Titanic open matte broadcast, in India, actually has a larger framing than the open matte blu-ray, because it’s an extract of the 1.72:1 (not 1.78) digital negative that was used for the 2.35 crop. The broadcast has the full width of the 2.35:1 Blu-ray (which the 3D BD doesn’t have), and includes almost the full height of the digital negative. I’m saying this because I saw the broadcast. Many of the ship scenes were cropped and pan-scanned for the IMAX presentation. That does not affect the open matte broadcast.
Those are behind-the-scenes shots and only a few seconds long. None of the IMAX scenes (full length) are presented in the BD, in their original aspect ratio.
Did you look at the link I posted? All those scenes are there.
Now I remember, I had a conversation with you regarding this, many months ago in spleen forums when you were just mulling over the idea. You said you were working on the project, but never heard from you till now. I see that you’ve already finished this project. That’s just great, from the pics I saw. Can you PM me a link, is that ok?
Actually, apart from the IMAX scene, many scenes are open matte as well, which weren’t shot with anamorphic lenses. Shots in the opening sequence, shots in the car park fight and others are open matte. So all the open matte scenes need to be included. I’ve seen pics of that, but don’t have it unfortunately. Those who have the broadcast version, can do a comparison with the Blu-ray.