For the Full IMAX (2.40/1.44) version, you’ll need to use the prologue from the 1.44:1 BD source, not the BB source which is cropped to about 1.66:1.
Nothing of the kind. An extended workprint cut was available briefly on VHS in the '90s. Now, it’s almost impossible to trace it anywhere. The guy who posted the bootleg VHS cover on Reddit didn’t even reply. Also, as Steven Spielberg has said he does not wish to alter his films ever (though he did with Jurassic Park by removing wires, studio lights, netting and added lightning flash and extra sounds not present in the theatrical cut), it’s almost certain that he won’t release Jurassic Park deleted scenes on home video. He did not release deleted scenes for Raiders of the Lost Ark, though he has shown them to a select few people inside his Amblin Studios.
P.S: I’d be one of the first in line to grab a copy if the JP deleted scenes were ever released.
I am just speaking from my own observation - We don’t see dark areas like pitch or tar, we see slightly grayish blacks with our eyes. From most 35mm film frame stills I’ve seen, blacks are almost always slightly gray. This keeps the image soothing to the eyes as pitch black feels harsh. This is why I suggested that the black levels be somewhere between the screener and the corrected version. Also, the “darkest blacks” draw too much attention towards those portions. Just my feeling.
In my opinion, the corrected black levels are too dark and makes the image look harsh. A middle ground between the screener and your corrected version might be the proper way.
I asked the seller. He says no subtitles. The “Where’s Sven” and another translation at the Poker game are part of the movie itself. So they will be there. In this case, they’ll most likely be in Italian. Those parts can be replaced with the Eng language HDTV broadcast (2.25:1 aspect ratio. It has a larger framing than the Blu-ray which is slightly zoomed in. If the print is at all acquired, it’d be better to preserve the total height and width of the frame without cropping to 2.35:1.
The print has no subtitles burned in. So, using English audio from another source and syncing it shouldn’t be a problem.
The bidding price is ok, not the “buy it now” one. I think, if enough people contribute (more than 10 people at least) then it may be bought. If somebody can contribute a bit extra, then even better.
3 days and 9 hours left (and counting…) before the listing ends. You need to watch it and if enough are interested, then something can be done.
Even hough I am not the addressee of your original comment, I would like to add that the intent of TheDarkestKnight’s project is to re-create as much as possible, the colour timing of the original 35mm/70mm prints. How the wall or floor of the actual building looks to the naked eye is not really significant in this case. But it was nice to know from you anyway. Thanks. 😃
Thanks. But lime chat is for Mac, I have windows. I tried downloading AdiIRC, but it did not download. What Windows client should I use. Thanks.
Hi Vinnie981,
The irc channel keeps saying “Come back at a later time” on a white page. I cannot access it. Any clues? Thanks
Papai.
@TheDarkestKnight, I sent you a PM.
That’s a step too far. Team Blu should change IP, name, etc. Can these guys be contacted and asked to stop doing such harm? Can those be seized?
Also, Jetrell, any idea where others are going after blu?
I’ve been watching back my project in Premiere and I’m noticing some duplicated frames throughout. These all appear to be problems with the Blu-Ray rip. As I said, I’m a self-proclaimed newbie at this. Luckily for the IMAX bonus disk I was able to do a simple rewrap and not have to transcode anything.
If anyone knows the best way to go about ripping a Blu-Ray, I’ll be taking this over to the Technical Discussions and How To’s so that this thread stays on more project specific details. I just wanted to keep all of you updated as to how it’s getting along.
Premiere always does that to me. So, it may not be just a problem with your encode. It may also be as well. Glad to know your project is coming along. Also, don’t forget to insert the standalone IMAX shots that are only available on the TDK Full Screen DVD. PM me if you require any assistance regarding that.
You are taking recourse to some theoretical concepts to make your point, while I am just speaking from a very practical experience; that of “seeing” with my eyes. So far, I have not really seen digitally shot or processed movies look better than celluloid shot films. Maybe, in the future, digital image acquisition will bridge the gap. But I have so far not seen anything promising, even on the most advanced Digital cinema cameras with 8K sensors and what not. Most experienced filmmakers also prefer the look of film over digital. I am just an audience and film enthusiast, that’s all.
When I was talking about why digital looks lifeless and why film feels more natural, I was speaking from a subjective perspective. I have seen movies shot and projected on film and I have seen movies done digitally. My eyes tell me that film looks more natural, pleasing and beautiful, with all it’s flaws. Digital almost always feels flat and sterile. In digital one can barely feel depth in a 2D shot, which comes much more effortlessly on filmed footage. I was just watching Satyajit Ray’s “The Coward” and Steven Spielberg’s “Jaws.” In each shot I could FEEL the depth, not just understand the placement of objects. I am speaking from what I have seen and felt. Your inference will most likely be the opposite.
By the way, your argument that our DNA is digital is absolutely wrong. DNA is made up of Adenine, Guanine, Thymine and Cytosine. These are organic elements and don’t exist in cyber space. You are welcome to prefer digital though. Just do not try and convince me.
Finally, no disrespect meant to you. 😃
The establishing shots are available in their full IMAX height only on the 4:3 Full Screen DVD of ‘The Dark Knight.’ There are no 4:3 transfers of ‘The Dark Knight Rises.’
The one movie which would have benefited from a 4:3 aspect DVD is ‘Interstellar,’ because it would’ve looked stunning and would’ve preserved all the IMAX scenes in a format almost the same as itself, with negligible side cropping (the projector gate would crop the 1.44:1 scenes at the sides and vertically anyway). But sadly, since 2008, Full Screen DVD production has ceased.
Thanks Jetrell Fo. Please let us know.
Now the problem is Blurg is gone, Spleen mostly won’t allow such stuff. So, even if you finish, how and where do you plan to share your work? It’s like how Rufus Scrimgeour says in Deathly Hallows Part 1 “These are dark times, there is no denying.”
There should have been some safeguards against such. But how can you know who will do what in advance, anyway? I just hope there is some light left.
That’s really sad! Why backstab a sharing community like this? It’s bad what happened with spleen and now this. I don’t have an invite to BHD either. Do you have one, or know who I can ask? The IRC channel of Blurg is not working as well.
So, what now for us all?
Why was Blurg shut down, exactly? What happened? I have no clue. Did they offer any explanation or reason. etc. it was a great place, so it is a bummer, indeed. Where are the future projects going, or going to go, as spleen does not allow most?
P.S: Just noticed the last post. S**t! How could someone do that? Just for some damn money?
Blurg is down. “Server not found.” I read that the site is gone for good. is that true. Anybody has any knowledge of this?
There are two more options with common width. People can choose how to watch it (full frame or cropped to 16:9/2.39:1), they can beam it on the wall with a projector and simulate a theatrical experience at home, with the IMAX framing and third, many who still possess the good old 4:3 CRT TVs, can burn it into a DVDR (formatted to fit 4:3 aspect ratio) and watch it in Full Screen without black bars at the sides.
Common width is the way the film was intended to be viewed. We already have the Blu-ray, it’d be great to have the actual IMAX version.
Hi, Scoodidabop
Any further news about the JP open matte? It’s been almost two months since we last heard from you, so, just checkin. Anyway, keep up the good work and all the best!
I doubt any home video version has the original colour timing because that would require an expensive scanning of the 35mm and 70mm film sources. I think it will be the same version for the film.
For the 1.44:1 sequences though, they are from the actual IMAX source, so those scenes should be close to the print.
Regarding the original timing, I think they will release a 10th, 15th or 20th anniversary version when they may re-scan the film elements. Also, it’s ultimately what Nolan wants. if he is happy with the TDK Blu-ray, then there will be no re-scans done.