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#55174
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Prequels from an Expanded Universe POV
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One of the big failings I see with the prequel trilogy, is a lack of overall planning by GL. I know there are people out there that cling to the idea that he had it all worked out before he rolled film on A New Hope, but it just aint so. The biggest issue for me is scales of time. The empire has to arise in Episode 3, we also know that episode 3 ends at least 20 years before A New Hope, because Luke and Leia are about 20 in that film, and they're born in 3. So, that means, unless episode 3 spans a large amount of time, that the rise of the empire and the Jedi Purges have to take place within that 20 year time frame. Yet, by the end of that, the public have forgotten the jedi almost completely, and the Empire seems to have been an omni present force for some time. I don't know, it just seems to me that the time between the empires rise, the fall of the jedi, and ANH should be longer. When I watched ANH, I never got the impression that the empire was the same age as Luke. I always felt the empire was at least 50 years old. I'd have set it up so that the empire came into existence, and the jedi forced underground when Obi Wan was in his early to mid 20's, and Anakin in his mid to late teens. Anakin wouldn't have turned to the darkside until after the rise of the empire. That's just my take on it anyway, but I've gotten off topic.

The Expanded Universe to me hasn't been anything too special. I loved the Zahn books, failed to read the X-Wing series, but everything else just did nothing for me. The short stories were alright, but nothing special. The Kevin J. Anderson stuff was just dreck, as is the majority of his writing. The corellian trilogy was so riddled with spelling and grammatical errors that it made me wonder if they employed a proof reader for that series. I've just found all of the novels repetitive. I enjoyed some of the comic books, particularly the X-Wing series. All in all though, the Expanded Universe does little for me, and with the exception of the Zahn novels, I wouldn't miss any of it if it were expunged from the record tomorrow. the EU is mostly moot now anyways, considering GL's inattentiveness to detail in regards to continuity. Oh well.
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#55157
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Prequels from an Expanded Universe POV
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Wow, this thread sure got off topic in a hurry. Well, never one to be detered, I'm going to jump back on topic.

One of the many things that's saddened me with the prequel trilogy is how it has completely ignored one of the great contributions of the EU, namely Timothy Zahn's take on cloning. Zahn put forth the idea that the clones were unstable and had a tendency to go insane, hence the clone wars. The reason for this was feedback in the force. Like if you put a microphone in front of the speaker it's connected to, or aim a video camera at the screen to which it is outputting, the force "signature" of every being is unique, but with a clone, they're identical, and it creates a pressure on the clones mind that drives him or her insane. The way around it was a prolonged maturing process, allowing the clones to aclimate to that pressure naturally, or Thrawn's solution, surrounding the sparti cylinders with Ysallimiri to block out the force until the clones were fully matured and stable. Personally, I loved this idea, and I think it's a terrible waste that Lucas ignored it entirely, and seems to have overlooked the question of what a clones presence does to the force entirely.

As far as the EU goes, I'm not a huge fan. I've read the majority of the books, and save for the Zahn books, I've been unimpressed with all of them (I'm only speaking of the original SW book run, not the New Jedi Order or later). The books became episodic and star treky. At the end of the adventure, everyone was pretty much back to normal, ready for next weeks thrilling instalment. It hasn't been until they took this new direction with the New Jedi Order series that things have actually started to happen. I'm not a big fan of the Vong really, but at least it's something different, and the stuff that happens matters. The characters are growing and changing, and that's a good thing.

Anyway, anyone else miss the Zahn clone connection?