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#1255537
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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SparkySywer said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Am I the only one who doesn’t want to lose Endor and the Ewoks?

No, but it’s worth toying with the idea. What would this movie look like?

next to impossible, VFX-wise.

That’s Radical Redux!

It does get to a point where it becomes the scriptwriting forum… while we should think big we should also think possible. Snooker has shown us moving Luke and Vader to Had Abaddon is possible, even if it takes ages. But putting Han and Leia there is impossible- they all walk around trees and lurk through bushes. It’d look strange in an urban landscape. Then the Ewoks… while we can like or dislike them they play an instrumental part of the story and if removed would make the film much shorter and the Endor Sequence play out anti-climatically. Then there’s the dialogue.

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#1255405
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I think a big part of the Force Awakens was the return to the falcon. From the moment it shot out of the sky in that first teaser, we were all hooked. The nostalgia worked in it’s favor imo, although now without Han it’s kinda just there because we have to keep it around… maybe it could be destroyed along with Han and Starkiller.

Instead, I think the Twilight would be better suited for the Prequels. But I have no idea how to pull it off.

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#1255126
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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It’s all about when you grew up. For a long time the fan base consisted of two not those who grew up with the OT. But now we are seeing adults who grew up with the PT creating this “Anti-Disney” trend. But when today’s kids grow up, the ST will be looked upon as a “golden age” and they will trash the new films.

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#1254903
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The Last Jedi- Full Movie Re-Edit
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ForceGhostRecon said:

OutboundFlight said:

symbolic point of the fight.

but… the point of the fight was to hold off the First Order. Whether Luke was actually physically there stalling them or “force-projecting” himself into a fake fight, the point of the fight remains the same either way.

In theatrical TLJ, it was never about stalling through a fight. Luke “won” the moment he stepped onto the battlefield.

The way I see it, Luke’s real goal was humiliating the First Order’s leadership. It’s because the idea, the spark of hope is always stronger than what’s really there.

So Luke walks up to an entire army and the supposed all-powerful leader, Kylo Ren, is unable to recognize he isn’t making any footsteps. Kylo then fails to realize Luke couldn’t possibly have the destroyed saber. This is because everyone is either scared/awed, or angry at their enemy. Luke basically insults them by giving them numerous outs: none of which they take.

Where does that leave us with? Well, to the average stormtrooper you just watched your supposedly invincible yet recently installed leader get played like a kid. The resistance escaped because Kylo was too busy playing with his emotions to think logically. Now you are questioning the First Order’s leadership and are in awe of the other Jedi, who could force project behind you at any minute for all you know. A good way to mess with morale, Master Skywalker.

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#1254707
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The Last Jedi- Full Movie Re-Edit
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Hate leads to Suffering.

While his ideas are big and radical, he is amateur. I’ve watched some his “trailer fix” videos and they’re just plain awful. His Last Jedi edit looks a bit better, but has this strange choppiness to it. That and YouTube is a terrible platform to work on, most of the comments don’t know a thing about editing.

That being said, completely removing the Holdo Plan subplot for a traitor onboard with Ackbar is a great idea. That question is will it be executed properly. The Lightsaber Duel, on the other hand, sounds cool in theory but completely ruins the entire symbolic point of the fight.

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#1254000
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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snooker said:

I remember toying around with having Han getting saved AFTER the Battle of Endor, but it messed with the flow too much.

For a more stylish ending: Luke wlaks into the palace, meets Jabba for the first time, and offfering profit or destruction. Jabba laughs it off. Luke’s “you’re making a mistake” line is inserted, and he then reaches for the blaster and the screen goes black.

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#1253292
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Science Fiction or Space Fantasy - what is Star Wars
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Personally, I view Space Opera more as fantasy within space, but I suppose it is up to multiple interpretations. I’ll accept Wikipedia’s term.

So if Space Opera is indeed Science Fiction, why didn’t Lucas say so? Why did he say a sentence earlier that it was not Science Fiction. Perhaps Lucas (like me) misinterpreted Space Opera and meant to say fantasy (which is what he went on to explain later in the sentence).

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#1252053
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Would Lucasfilm have made new SW films with or without Disney?
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moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Say Lucas had handed over his company to Kathleen Kennedy, but without selling it to Disney. Would things still have played out roughly the same? Are Disney basically just funding them (and forcing to release Solo in May)? Or would there actually be a significant difference? Maybe the sequel trilogy but no spinoffs?

From what I understand Solo was being developed by Lawrence Kasdan even before the Disney buyout, and Lucas had at one point planned to write/direct Episode VII himself. So it’s possible that in terms of the kinds of films we’re seeing (sequels, spin-offs) things would be the same, but other things would be quite different I’m sure (who’s making the films, when they’re being released, etc.).

I’m pretty sure that Lucas was also brainstorming ideas for the Death Star plans backstory before he sold to Disney, which was the premise for Rogue One.

He already did that with ATOC.

None of this speculation makes any sense. Kennedy wouldn’t have taken over LFL if she wasn’t allowed to make films. >By the time Lucas dies, she’ll probably be retiring herself. Not to mention, Lucas was planning on gearing up >production on more SW films before he sold the franchise, so there’s no reason they’d have to wait until after his >death (what?). Plus, the sequels have, in fact, used many elements of Lucas’s treatments.

Lucas changed his mind while writing the new scripts. He said, “If I’d held onto the company I could have done it, and then it would have been done. Of course a lot of fans would have hated it, just like they did Phantom Menace and everything but at least the whole story from beginning to end would be told.”

The key word for me is could. At some point, he decided it wasn’t a good idea. In retrospect he might be annoyed that Disney changed a significant portion of the saga, but if Disney hadn’t created a sequel trilogy I imagine he would let the saga stay at a clearly defined rise and fall of Anakin. But once Disney came along he knew the ST was inevitable and gave the discarded scripts anyway.

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#1251939
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Would Lucasfilm have made new SW films with or without Disney?
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Anakin Starkiller said:

But we’re assuming that he still hands over his control of Lucasfilm to Kathleen Kennedy.

I don’t think that would ever happen. Lucas sold Lucasfilm for the money. I think he’d hold onto his creation as a long as possible, unless Kennedy hands him a couple billion dollars.

But for the sake of the argument we will say she gets it and receives George’s blessing. I think she would more or less follow George’s wishes until his death. It’d a lot harder to blame a large corporation like Disney, but very easy to pick on one person. People do it with Kennedy already, but in this timeline she truly would be responsible for everything that happens.

A couple years after George’s death, she might announce a sequel trilogy but I don’t think she’d use his scripts. While we don’t know much about them, that everyone who read them didn’t use anything just proves to me their poor quality. So she’d hire new directors. A certain Star Trek director would’ve loved to make a star wars film would happily sign off even if at a slightly lower salary than one with Disney. And… not much would change. Although the sequels would probably be three years apart without an spinoffs.

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#1251913
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Would Lucasfilm have made new SW films with or without Disney?
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Honestly I don’t think so. Lucas was pissed at the Star Wars community for turning on him. To him Star Wars was his creation and he could change it however he wanted. We may disagree on that, but he’s the one with the rights not us. I don’t think he’d approve of a film, although maybe it could appear canon as a book/animated tv show.

Maybe it will come to this for Disney too.

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#1251060
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open letter by Collipso
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Jay might overreact to certain things, but this post is just proof the same applies to you (if not more). He doesn’t deserve most of what you said.

Remember that Jay is in charge of the site so without him, this forum wouldn’t exist. Every single good memory yoh’ve had here is, indirectly, because of him. He brought everybody together, yet it’s you who are breaking them apart.