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There’s this: https://youtu.be/ZE9ZaAvhMhg

Cindy Williams, Laurie in one of Lucas’ masterpieces, American Graffiti.

I despise Whiplash (2014).

I was wondering how he did it!

Great stuff Ady, I’m a big fan of the original but I gotta say I’ve fallen for the more subtle approach you’re going for here. Congrats, it looks so great!

Check this twitter thread, very thorough: https://twitter.com/pabl0hidalgo/status/1427722793647427591?s=20

You’re very unpleasant.

Hey Arcbagel, could I please get a link? This sounds great, I sent you a PM a few days ago asking if you were sending out the edit but I don’t believe you saw it. Cheers and thanks in advance!

Emre1601 said:

+2 for the cinema.

Did they show Empire at the cinemas for the 40th anniversary in the end with Covid going on?
 

It would be fantastic to see this on the big screen again:

but I would reluctantly settle for watching one of the later “Special Edition” versions at the cinema if that was our only choice.

ESB had a drive-in run in 2020, IIRC. It was the new 2019 Special Editions.

Everything Everywhere All At Once is massively overrated.

I like Hal’s “I wanted…” but I think it gives Ben a bit too much agency, perhaps more than he should at that point. Though it probably works better even than the original in the context of the Kenobi show, if you’re into that (I’m definitely not but what can you do).

Would it be possible to have Obi-Wan say “Your father would’ve wanted you to have this…”? If so, it could be a simple solution to the whole thing.

Welcome, all.

LexX said:

StarkillerAG said:

LexX said:

I couldn’t care less about “Lucas canon” and so should everyone, that’s my point.

But he clearly cares, and that’s my point. It’s fine to have an opinion on what’s the “best” version, but the OP came in with a clear request, and I responded accordingly. You can’t expect to just force everyone to have the same taste that you do.

Clearly? He’s looking for a fan edit. He said he didn’t want Disney stuff and to my knowledge 1997 is GL’s official version as well, so not sure what your problem is. If I was forcing my taste then I wouldn’t recommend any SE version at all, I haven’t seen those in over 10 years. So stop dissing others’ opinion if they differ from your own. Thank you.

George’s last official version was 2011, technically 2019 since he oversaw the very few changes to that as well. 2011 and 2019 Blus introduced very few new changes, they’re essentially just the 2004 versions with very small extra stuff, but amongst that extra stuff is the “NOOOOOoo” that the OP doesn’t want. 2004, on the other hand, introduced many many new things when compared to 1997, all approved by George, so Starkiller is correct in assuming it’s what the OP is looking for. They’re saying they want all George-approved SE changes minus the Nooooo, which is close enough to the 2004 versions that it’d be correct.

OP, I’d recommend schorman’s HDTV preservation as it’s the 2004 versions in 1080p.

Very exciting. Andor pumping life into everyone’s veins, haha 😃

I’m rewatching it with my brother - I loved the first arc way more on a rewatch, and it also gave me further appreciation for the last couple episodes, since I’d forgotten pretty much who everyone was in Ferrix by the end. Great, great show. I think the flashback stuff would probably have worked better as a cold, pre-title opening and then just have the rhyming bits with Maarva & young Cassian and Luthen & present-day Cassian in their respective places, but it still works. Can’t wait to rewatch the rest of the stuff.

I initially thought that too, throughout those first three episodes. “They messed up the line!” Well, in retrospect, seeing the arc that he’s gone through, he now realizes that all of the fights in his life have always been the same fight - the anti-fascist fight, the anti-oppression fight, and that you can’t run away from it. That’s what that line means now and, even if not what we might’ve initially expected it to. I quite love it. Lenin’s Nemik’s manifesto played a big role, and it’s when I really got the angle they were going for. Great show.

RogueLeader said:

I get the what Octorox is feeling about Andor missing the escapism of Star Wars and Empire. The way I see it, I guess a more in universe perspective, but I kind of associate the fairy tale and space opera aspects of Star Wars with the Jedi and the Force. The Force is magic, and Jedi are wizards. During these dark times, the magic is dead and the wizards are all gone. It is bleak because that spirituality, faith, and hope has been snuffed out. While it might not have a great ring to it, this is why I think A New Hope works well as a subtitle for the original Star Wars film. With Obi-Wan and Luke, the mysticism is returning and the universe comes into form as a space fantasy.

For me, that is how I feel like you can have a more grounded show like Andor, as well as a fairy tale like the Original Trilogy, and they can coexist fairly well.

And to me, it adds weight to the importance of the Jedi, and they’re importance as a symbol of individuals who can make the impossible happen. Clearly we see this best exemplified with Luke Skywalker in the OT and ST.

I think you’re referring to me, and I never said I don’t think any of those things. I definitely do and tried to make that clear in my previous post - Andor is the thing in Star Wars I’ve been the most excited about in a while, and I’m in love with it. The thing for me is that, again, I just think Star Wars and Empire are better, and with recency bias + the way this is possibly the most mature storytellig in SW ever, it’s easy to jump out and say that this is actually better than those two movies, and I think it’s tremendously unfair to them, because while Andor is very, very excellent TV, they’re two of the best movies ever made, and I still don’t think it quite compares. The escapism bit was just me defending the more lighthearted nature of those movies in light of how much more serious we can go with the setting as shown here. Anyway…

Awesome show, loved everything, really absolutely every single thing… I think the only thing that got close to even remotely bothering me was Bix saying “caf” in that first or second episode, lol. Something out of 90s EU, which should’ve remained 90s EU.

Twitter.

The released cut of Rogue One is already Tony Gilroy’s re-edit.

Also, as much as I’m loving the show - and I am, very much - I think it’s a far cry away from Star Wars and Empire. Apples and oranges obviously (comparing movies and TV is always hard, especially when Andor does something so different than really any of the movies) but just because something is more “mature”, “serious” and “dark” doesn’t mean it’s better by default. Andor is excellently written, directed, shot, yes. But so is Star Wars. In fact it’s more than that, it might be the best one ever, or amongst them, and it’s widely regarded as that. Again, Andor is really, really excellent TV, but I think it’s very unfair to say this is the best Star Wars-related media in any genre when we have two of the best films ever made in our ranks.

Without a doubt it’s really refreshing and great to see a new take on this universe that’s executed this well, which is where the apples and oranges bit comes in, but overall I still prefer the escapism, simplicity, vibe and mood that the OT goes for. I understand the appeal of this, especially in the late prestige TV era that we’re in, but I’m definitely still in the SW/TESB camp, and I felt like briefly defending them here.

Fullmetaled, I receive updates on this thread as I’m very interested in updates from Ady and the edit. However, I’m not interested in your quest for HDR. Ady’s stated multiple times now that there won’t be an HDR grade. We have no idea what you’re talking about, or who you’re talking about, or what they said, or anything of the sorts. It doesn’t matter whether or not it can be done, all that matters is that it won’t be, and you’ve been told that several times by more than one person, again, including Adywan himself. Please stop derailing the thread.

I sent several PMs to several people - including multiple to Ziggy, when he was active, inactive, you name it - asking for a link to his edit and never got anything. If someone has this, I’d love to watch it and have been seeking it for a long time. Thanks.

Congratulations, Eddie. Really nice project, and really great that you crossed the finishing line. You should be very proud.

jedi_bendu said:

I do really like Syril Karn as a very different kind of Star Wars antagonist because he’s not an evil space wizard, he’s just a cog in the system.

Yeah, lots of cool stuff like this in the show. Learned all the right things from the PT, which is the only other SW material that really deals with the themes the show is tackling that everyone keeps praising.

Isn’t Last One Standing at odds with AOTC? Regardless, solid list.